Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

wadacrack wrote: »

We are going to have 200 hospital admissions per day at this rate and it could get higher. People still don't realise how much of a tragedy this will be. Maybe 300 in one day. We need to set up field hospitals now

Limerick had one on UL campus, did it close?

I think Dublin also had one or STEP clinic

Larbre34 wrote: »

Absolutely nobody should be blamed for the relaxation of restrictions.

The case rate of about 200-300 per day, coupled with low hospitalisation and ICU admissions indicated a reasonable prospect of opening up certain activities to give the economy a bit of a boost and allow some family socialising, with caution.

What is clear, is that the Irish people were personally very responsible in the First Wave of this pandemic in March to May, but that when it came to Christmas, basically nobody gave a flying **** about any of the advice (time limiting, number of visitors limiting, use of masks and sanitisation ation in the home, ventilation of homes etc) and that for these wildfire numbers, likely to peak at under 10,000 per day in the next while, hundreds of thousands if not millions of homes just said **** it and did what they do every Christmas.

Its not the fault of Micheal Martin or Varadkar or Donnelly or Tony Holohan or journalists or academics or Michael O'Leary or anyone else.

This is 90% original variant transmission. Its OUR fault as a people. OURS. And we now pay the consequences with a lost 6 weeks as we enter 2021. Its as simple as that.

You're not wrong in the slightest. But a significant portion of society want to blame someone and will never shine a light on their own behaviour.

Government and NPHET are not entirely infallible but they were damned if they did, damned if they didn't. Society is to blame, people incapable of taking responsibility.

niallo27 wrote: »

When you say catastrophe, what exactly do you mean. Are we all going die. Its a pretty strong word.

I mean the health service being overwhelmed, attempts to flatten the curve having failed, which means patients getting triaged based on educated guesses in terms of longevity due to allocation of scarce medical resources, and, ultimately, not all of us are going to die, but some deaths certainly will that could have been prevented in hindsight. Beyond that, hundreds of thousands of infections are going to occur which while not killing people could end up maiming them, leaving them victims of "long covid" or worse. I don't understand why so few people realise that it's not just the mortality we have to worry about, we are discussing a novel coronavirus. We simply don't know what its effect on the human body will be five, ten, fifteen years after infection because the longitudinal data is not yet there. German studies have shown up to 70% of people with mild Covid cases end up with cardiac damage; other studies have shown the equivalent of lung damage. It's not exactly reaching to say this could lead to people randomly having heart attacks in their thirties, forties, fifties, or suffering bouts of lung failure.

Then consider our healthcare workers who, already overworked and fatigued, are going to end up traumatised by Italy circa March 2020 levels of stress, pressure and just general tragedy happening before their eyes. Families devastated. And who knows how many businesses or individually economically ruined because of a lockdown that will just stretch on and on until enough of the population are vaccinated.

Deaths are only a marginal part of what is definitely going to be catastrophic.

TomSweeney wrote: »

Jesus lads, it's looking pretty grim ....

I just hope death rate remains low and most cases are with young + healthy.

Time to really ramp up the vaccination programme - to the max.

Israel have already over 10% of population vaccinated. No flies on them boys, and if there are their paying rent!

billyhead wrote: »

Rathkeale. A certain breed of people reside their.

I doubt they even get tested

C__MC wrote: »

Seriously locking people up in cells wont work
Gardai can do little

Fines work. Hit people's pockets and they won't take the risk.

Asking them politely to not be bold does f all.

hotmail.com wrote: »

Monaghan and Louth people have really given up altogether.

I can confirm from Louth we gave up years ago.

growleaves wrote: »

I am words for lost.

That's nuthin'....I'm lost for sillababils,sillybubbles, s-s-s-yllababbles.

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

What restrictions can they add to the mix at this stage? a 2km limit?

Stop click and collect in non essential shops, get tighter with what's essential, stop nonsense like takeaway pints

Vinnie222 wrote: »

I doubt they even get tested

You took the words right out of my mouth. Was just going to post the same

Are these numbers from the backlog or the daily tests? Christmas was only 9 days ago so i'm guessing still people waiting to be tested from the celebrations on Christmas day and most of these numbers are people mixing the days/weeks before Christmas

3 days into a new year and it's already absolute sh!t show! I think I'm going to find a cave somewhere and just live in that for the next few months

Daphne Mushy Searcher wrote: »

I think enforcement is the key. I think that they need to give the Gardaí more power.

Start handing out on the spot high fines or arrests, agree more stricter enforcement needed, involve the army too

Vinnie222 wrote: »

I doubt they even get tested

Until it's too late.