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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #6422
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,020 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »
    there are 153 on trolleys in irish hospitals as we speak, there were nearly 5 times that many this time last year and the hospitals coped no problem. We are a long long way from not coping.

    But this is a serious pandemic. The hospital numbers can massively increase very quickly. So, 5 times is not as much as you might think.


  • #6423
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    lawred2 wrote: »
    You need to quit engaging with that agitator. Their only purpose is to wind people up.
    I like to ask him questions based on his comments. I believe it’s important to call out rubbish.


  • #6424
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »
    there are 153 on trolleys in irish hospitals as we speak, there were nearly 5 times that many this time last year and the hospitals coped no problem. We are a long long way from not coping.

    Different circumstances. The covid virus takes longer to treat, more time and resources involved and doctors and nurses are off sick because they have the virus too.

    The two situations you mention are not directly comparable in terms of the effect they have on service provision.


  • #6425
    Str8outtaWuhan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Str8outtaWuhan


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Would it not depend on what the patient is presenting with?

    One of the benefits of our inept health system is they can cope with more than 100% capacity. The NHS is creaking at the seams and they are barely pushing 100%. We have cancelled so much elective procedures that we have the ability to deal with the numbers. Sad but true.


  • #6426
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    They really need to sort the reporting out, a significant amount of people haven't a breeze that our cases are in the thousands a day and that absolutely effects decisions.


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  • #6427
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    So other parents who have no choice but to go to work such as frontline workers doctors/nurses/AGS are irresponsible if they send their children to school. You do really like to label other people don’t you?

    A parents number one aim is to protect his/her children. I can't speak for people I don't know but any parent I have spoke with isn't sending their kids back.

    You'll have to make your own choices as an adult


  • #6428
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I like to ask him questions based on his comments. I believe it’s important to call out rubbish.

    Absolutely. Its why I respond to as many of your posts as possible


  • #6429
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    A parents number one aim is to protect his/her children. I can't speak for people I don't know but any parent I have spoke with isn't sending their kids back.

    You'll have to make your own choices as an adult

    Again why refuse to answer the question? are frontline workers irresponsible if they send their children to school. A nurse can’t bring their child to work. It’s easy for you to sit at home pontificating whilst others have no choice but to work.
    I’ll be going to work tomorrow thankfully luckily I don’t have the nightmare of childcare.


  • #6430
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »
    there are 153 on trolleys in irish hospitals as we speak, there were nearly 5 times that many this time last year and the hospitals coped no problem. We are a long long way from not coping.

    How many on trolleys if hospitalisations increase by 25%, 50%, 100%?


  • #6431
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,152 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Say this would go down like a lead balloon https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1345688999424380929?s=19


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  • #6432
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    AdamD wrote: »
    They really need to sort the reporting out, a significant amount of people haven't a breeze that our cases are in the thousands a day and that absolutely effects decisions.

    I think anyone who speaks English knows ad nausium what the number are. When the non essential retail was busy over Christmas it was full of people for whom English would not be their first language. Why has there been no campaign targeting them? I have literally not heard or seen one ad in any medical directed at non English speakers.


  • #6433
    alentejo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭alentejo


    I suspect there might be tighter restrictions, however the 2k rule is obnoxious end of.


  • #6434
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Say this would go down like a lead balloon https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1345688999424380929?s=19

    It would be a ridiculous move.
    Good luck on them trying to enforce it.


  • #6435
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Again why refuse to answer the question? are frontline workers irresponsible if they send their children to school. A nurse can’t bring their child to work. It’s easy for you to sit at home pontificating whilst others have no choice but to work.
    I’ll be going to work tomorrow thankfully luckily I don’t have the nightmare of childcare.

    So you don't have kids to protect from a dangerous environment so it's easy for you to sit at home pontificating about other people's choices.


  • #6436
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Say this would go down like a lead balloon https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1345688999424380929?s=19

    That’s the kind of thing that just pisses people off.


  • #6437
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Say this would go down like a lead balloon https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1345688999424380929?s=19

    Construction workers will be coming down in car loads tomorrow when things start up again though.

    You can only laugh


  • #6438
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Rocco Tart Cheek wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1345688999424380929?s=19

    2km from your home is dangerous
    Airports? La la la lalala

    Yep... they will introduce meaningless and unenforceable distance travel measures on the resident public, while ignoring the elephant in the airport.

    Tens of thousands visited the country over Christmas with no checking on how they isolated - it didn't even make sense for them to come, if they did isolate, so I expect practically none of them did.

    They must have been a contributory factor, but the powers that be never even bothered to look, because they already know the answer, and knew it while it was happening. Christmas was a 'acceptable risk gamble' for the government, that went badly wrong.


  • #6439
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,020 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Say this would go down like a lead balloon https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1345688999424380929?s=19

    Don’t worry, I’m sure Eamon will outline the peer reviewed scientific data he is using for this suggestion. He definitely didn’t pull it out of his behind.


  • #6440
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    So you don't have kids to protect from a dangerous environment so it's easy for you to sit at home pontificating about other people's choices.

    Any chance you will say what frontline staff should do? Your refusal to answer suggests another poster was right that you are only an agitator.


  • #6441
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    We've taken steps this year we wouldn't in other years. Some are good things some are bad things.

    Last year if a drunk showed up in A&E the response would be 'put him on a trolley let him sleep it off. Check on him regularly to make sure he isn't choking on his own vomit'

    This year if a drunk shows up in A&E the response is 'Security. Ask him to leave'

    There has been mass cancellations in so called elective procedures. Ques are building up for stuff like knee replacements and hip replacements.


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  • #6442
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Any chance you will say what frontline staff should do? Your refusal to answer suggests another poster was right that you are only an agitator.

    I've already answered.


  • #6443
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Again why refuse to answer the question? are frontline workers irresponsible if they send their children to school. A nurse can’t bring their child to work. It’s easy for you to sit at home pontificating whilst others have no choice but to work.
    I’ll be going to work tomorrow thankfully luckily I don’t have the nightmare of childcare.

    A lot of people keep saying its cheap childcare but do they think there are loads of childcare spaces available if the schools close?

    That people can just leave their kids in to go to work. And all they are worried about is the cost.

    There are no other options for children if you don't have family to mind them.

    Those selfish parents going to work.


  • #6444
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I've already answered.

    You didn’t, I ‘m going to place you on ignore now as I have no intention in receiving an infraction because of a wind up merchant .


  • #6445
    Mimon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Mimon


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    We've taken steps this year we wouldn't in other years. Some are good things some are bad things.

    Last year if a drunk showed up in A&E the response would be 'put him on a trolley let him sleep it off. Check on him regularly to make sure he isn't choking on his own vomit'

    This year if a drunk shows up in A&E the response is 'Security. Ask him to leave'

    There has been mass cancellations in so called elective procedures. Ques are building up for stuff like knee replacements and hip replacements.

    How many drunks just show up because they are drunk? Doesn't make sense. Most would have some sort of injury from being drunk from falling/fighting etc.


  • #6446
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You didn’t, I ‘m going to place you on ignore now as I have no intention in receiving an infraction because of a wind up merchant .

    I said I can't speak for people I don't know. You really need to read posts properly

    If you aren't up for a discussion ignore is definitely the root to go. I will refuse to do likewise as I've no issue with discussion


  • #6447
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    zerosugarbuzz wrote: »
    That’s the kind of thing that just pisses people off.

    Ignored by many aswell.


  • #6448
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    Yep... they will introduce meaningless and unenforceable distance travel measures on the resident public, while ignoring the elephant in the airport.

    Tens of thousands visited the country over Christmas with no checking on how they isolated - it didn't even make sense for them to come, if they did isolate, so I expect practically none of them did.

    They must have been a contributory factor, but the powers that be never even bothered to look, because they already know the answer, and knew it while it was happening. Christmas was a 'acceptable risk gamble' for the government, that went badly wrong.

    It wasn't even a gamble. The dog on the street knew it would be a disaster.


  • #6449
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Say this would go down like a lead balloon https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1345688999424380929?s=19

    Absolute nonsense and completely unenforceable. It might work if everything was closed (including schools, constructionL non essential manufacturing etc) like last March. But with so much open there are too many people moving around to be able to identify someone outside of their 2km.

    In short, of they do the 2km thing I think everything has to shut down


  • #6450
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,474 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »
    there are 153 on trolleys in irish hospitals as we speak, there were nearly 5 times that many this time last year and the hospitals coped no problem. We are a long long way from not coping.

    What contagious disease did they have last year?


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  • #6451
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Israel plan to have 2 million of their citizens vaccinated by the end of January. They really have taken this seriously


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