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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #6362
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    khalessi wrote: »
    There are 171 cases of the UK strain identified outside the UK and we have 16 or 9.35% that we know of.

    This surge is due to relaxation of restriction prior to Christmas and people mixing more it seems

    The key point is ‘that we know of’. At this point the numbers are so far removed from reality that we know SFA.


  • #6363
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Oh dear. I'm still cranky about this today. I do feel cross that the government and health authorities in Ireland won't make a stronger effort with a short sharp strict lockdown to at least somewhat bring down the rampant spread of Corona virus in Ireland before they hoosh out all the blue collar workers en masse tomorrow.


  • #6364
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,390 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Oh dear. I'm still cranky about this today. I do feel cross that the government and health authorities in Ireland won't make a stronger effort with a short sharp strict lockdown to at least somewhat bring down the rampant spread of Corona virus in Ireland before they hoosh out all the blue collar workers en masse tomorrow.
    Have we not already had the longest strictest lockdowns around? At least in Europe?

    I think people need to take some personal responsibility for a change.

    100 plus people a day with close contacts of 20-30 a day tells the story.....I would have two...a husband and a dog...


  • #6365
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Oh dear. I'm still cranky about this today. I do feel cross that the government and health authorities in Ireland won't make a stronger effort with a short sharp strict lockdown to at least somewhat bring down the rampant spread of Corona virus in Ireland before they hoosh out all the blue collar workers en masse tomorrow.

    They aren't moving fast enough without a doubt.


  • #6366
    Solar2021
    Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭Solar2021


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    They aren't moving fast enough without a doubt.

    All off for the long weekend

    We will start getting leaks from Irish Times as usual around lunchtime tomorrow


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  • #6367
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    gmisk wrote: »
    Have we not already had the longest strictest lockdowns around? At least in Europe?

    I think people need to take some personal responsibility for a change.

    100 plus people a day with close contacts of 20-30 a day tells the story.....I would have two...a husband and a dog...

    Worth bearing in mind the death rate is still extremely low. If that (unfortunately) changes people’s behaviors will change too. Fear monger if no longer working on a lot of people, quite the opposite in fact.


  • #6368
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,020 ✭✭✭jackboy


    gmisk wrote: »
    Have we not already had the longest strictest lockdowns around? At least in Europe?

    I think people need to take some personal responsibility for a change.

    100 plus people a day with close contacts of 20-30 a day tells the story.....I would have two...a husband and a dog...

    We haven’t had a really strict lockdown. They are cordoning off beaches now after letting parties go ahead for the last few weeks. It’s a joke.


  • #6369
    JeffKenna
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    jackboy wrote: »
    We haven’t had a really strict lockdown. They are cordoning off beaches now after letting parties go ahead for the last few weeks. It’s a joke.

    I'd say it will get stricter, saw the guards in Lidl yesterday walking around. Maybe they were getting something but it more looked like they were checking for mask compliance.


  • #6370
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    gmisk wrote: »
    Have we not already had the longest strictest lockdowns around? At least in Europe?

    I think people need to take some personal responsibility for a change.

    100 plus people a day with close contacts of 20-30 a day tells the story.....I would have two...a husband and a dog...

    The last lock down was not strict. The roads were quite busy. Lots of people say this - everyone I know knows it. We have had some kind of painful attenuated lockdowns recently that have been sub-par when it comes to effectiveness but full of drawn out unpleasantness.
    As far as personal responsibility I have seen no one, gone nowhere. Cafe's, shops and bars are something that were part of a very long ago. But I don't mind as the countryside is enough for me. Some of my children came home after having done a pre-quarantine themselves for 2 weeks. We went nowhere except into the empty hills. But still we have to go out now and share portaloos with numerous people from all parts. It is frankly not safe. The people directing the lockdown can work safely from home and have zoom meetings. There is something of the fat generals sending the troops over the trenches in all this mess. Yeah, so I am cranky about it.


  • #6371
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    gmisk wrote: »
    Have we not already had the longest strictest lockdowns around? At least in Europe?

    We have long lockdown but not nearly that strict. Other countries limited you to maybe a trip to the supermarket for a food shop once per week police physically preventing you from travelling. Hefty sanctioms is you went outaode the restrictions.Our lockdown was long but pussy footed around in case someone got offended because they couldn't buy a light bulb or collect a spice bag.
    gmisk wrote: »
    I think people need to take some personal responsibility for a change.
    u
    Unfortunately that concept is alien to a lot of irish people. It's always someone else's fault, combined with "sure it'll be grand".


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  • #6372
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,151 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    JeffKenna wrote: »
    I'd say it will get stricter, saw the guards in Lidl yesterday walking around. Maybe they were getting something but it more looked like they were checking for mask compliance.

    Were they wearing masks themselves out of curiosity?


  • #6373
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,748 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    jackboy wrote: »
    We haven’t had a really strict lockdown. They are cordoning off beaches now after letting parties go ahead for the last few weeks. It’s a joke.

    Where are beaches being cordoned off?


  • #6374
    WicklaBlaa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭WicklaBlaa


    JeffKenna wrote: »
    I'd say it will get stricter, saw the guards in Lidl yesterday walking around. Maybe they were getting something but it more looked like they were checking for mask compliance.

    I really doubt they were checking mask compliance. Guards buy stuff too.


  • #6375
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    JeffKenna wrote: »
    I'd say it will get stricter, saw the guards in Lidl yesterday walking around. Maybe they were getting something but it more looked like they were checking for mask compliance.

    Saw them in supervalu yesterday, definitely doing someone’s shopping. Bit of a dilemma over which chicken soup, you could tell neither we regular shoppers, fair play to them.


  • #6376
    JeffKenna
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Were they wearing masks themselves out of curiosity?

    Ah they were in fairness.


  • #6377
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Where are beaches being cordoned off?

    Showed Salthill being cordoned off on the news


  • #6378
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,390 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    jackboy wrote: »
    We haven’t had a really strict lockdown. They are cordoning off beaches now after letting parties go ahead for the last few weeks. It’s a joke.
    That falls under personal responsibility imo.
    Could you imagine the protests we would have if beaches etc were closed off everywhere along with everything else? It's a balancing act. I'm also not sure adding some tape is going to do much let's be honest.

    I agree the gardai should be fining left right and centre like in other countries.
    But imo we can't apportion the blame for everything on the government or the gardai.


  • #6379
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,020 ✭✭✭jackboy


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Where are beaches being cordoned off?

    They have started in Galway now. I’m sure this nonsense will be soon carried out in other counties too.


  • #6380
    Lashes28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Lashes28


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Where are beaches being cordoned off?

    They closed clogherhead the other day due to numbers on it. Maybe that's what they are referring to?


  • #6381
    ax530
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭ax530


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Hold on so the Majority don't even pass it on to their spouse who presumably they share a bed with?

    Yes I have know a few families/couples where only one got the virus.
    Often asymptomatic tested as a contact they don't pass onto partner


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  • #6382
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Solar2021 wrote: »
    Scary to think about

    Happening in alot of places that were hit hard, just not picked up by media

    China went eradication for a reason and have been slow using pharmacology compared tp what they are capable of

    It must have been rampant in China when they decided to bolt residents in their homes. No way did this start in December 2019 and it took them a few weeks to decide how bad it was.


  • #6383
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,748 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    jackboy wrote: »
    They have started in Galway now. I’m sure this nonsense will be soon carried out in other counties too.

    Miles and miles of open spaces usually with significant onshore breezes

    The mind boggles


  • #6384
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    It must have been rampant in China when they decided to bolt residents in their homes. No way did this start in December 2019 and it took them a few weeks to decide how bad it was.

    People weren't bolted in their homes. And it makes no sense whatsoever that it would only be in China for ages considering how much international travel there is.


  • #6385
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    JeffKenna wrote: »
    I'd say it will get stricter, saw the guards in Lidl yesterday walking around. Maybe they were getting something but it more looked like they were checking for mask compliance.

    Chances are they were checking that they weren't selling the non essential middle ailse items.

    Or they're doing someone's shopping, they're still delivering stuff to older people.


  • #6386
    ax530
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭ax530


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Miles and miles of open spaces usually with significant onshore breezes

    The mind boggles

    I think it is parking they are stopping. To limit the numbers going to the beach. Those within 5km can still enjoy safely


  • #6387
    EDit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭EDit


    ignore


  • #6388
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    In fairness its the prom in Salthill they closed as so many walk in close proximity


  • #6389
    BobbyMalone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭BobbyMalone


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    That's correct.
    The correct answer is: we don't know.


  • #6390
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,098 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    ax530 wrote: »
    Yes I have know a few families/couples where only one got the virus.
    Often asymptomatic tested as a contact they don't pass onto partner

    Isn't it a quandary? Still thousands per day testing positive yet it's so difficult to pass on. The mind boggles.

    :rolleyes:


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  • #6391
    leanin2019
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭leanin2019


    Forgive me if its been asked already, but what the heck system were they using that could not handle recording 2000 cases or more per day??


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