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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #6332
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭Polar101


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Wait, what?

    Why is there a protest?

    Check out the "shop thief" thread in the Current Affairs forum.

    Anyway, not much to do with Covid, and it doesn't look like the protests are going to attract huge masses of people - unlike in the summer, when it was still warm(er).


  • #6333
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Just because one side is being very economical with the truth doesn't mean this helps.

    Indeed it seems to be quite a sad situation with lots of misinformation.

    Discussed on another thread. https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058145057/1


  • #6334
    amandstu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Apparently ( unless I mishead) this latest surge is no longer being attributed to the new variant that was identified first in UK.

    Seemingly just down to our behaviour around Christmas.

    Does that mean we are due an extra surge when it does take hold?
    :(


  • #6335
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    amandstu wrote: »
    Apparently ( unless I mishead) this latest surge is no longer being attributed to the new variant that was identified first in UK.

    Seemingly just down to our behaviour around Christmas.

    Does that mean we are due an extra surge when it does take hold?
    :(

    There are 171 cases of the UK strain identified outside the UK and we have 16 or 9.35% that we know of.

    This surge is due to relaxation of restriction prior to Christmas and people mixing more it seems


  • #6336
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    amandstu wrote: »
    Apparently ( unless I mishead) this latest surge is no longer being attributed to the new variant that was identified first in UK.

    Seemingly just down to our behaviour around Christmas.

    Does that mean we are due an extra surge when it does take hold?
    :(

    Not really. It's not like thousands of infected people magically get upgraded to the new strain and continue the spread. The new one would start from scratch.


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  • #6337
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,748 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Exactly and some on here see 100s of thousands out of work as a minor inconvenience.

    Because it doesn't effect them


  • #6338
    Morries Wigs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 199 ✭✭Morries Wigs


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Time to bring in the army to enforce level 5

    the only army where you can go home for your dinner at 5 pm


  • #6339
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    This is very worrying in Brazil, the virus must be mutating to a greater extent than what is known.

    https://twitter.com/devisridhar/status/1345631409243906051


  • #6340
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Scuid Mhór wrote: »
    Anyone?

    Close contact. Self isolate and look for a test.


  • #6341
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭prunudo


    amandstu wrote: »
    Apparently ( unless I mishead) this latest surge is no longer being attributed to the new variant that was identified first in UK.

    Seemingly just down to our behaviour around Christmas.

    Does that mean we are due an extra surge when it does take hold?
    :(

    With a bit of luck, now that we are in level 5 and the festive celebrations and gatherings are over it won't get a chance to take hold in the way it could have done in December.


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  • #6342
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Quick question is the 5k rule back in action?


  • #6343
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    wadacrack wrote: »
    This is very worrying in Brazil, the virus must be mutating to a greater extent than what is known.

    https://twitter.com/devisridhar/status/1345631409243906051

    Population of Brazil is over 200 million
    Even if there where close to 70% infection of the population that still leaves a huge population for the infection to run through.
    But with most tweets like this in relation to heard immunity they forget to mention that although a population becomes immune to a virus it does not mean the virus is eradicated. It will still circulate in the population


  • #6344
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    amandstu wrote: »
    Apparently ( unless I mishead) this latest surge is no longer being attributed to the new variant that was identified first in UK.

    Seemingly just down to our behaviour around Christmas.

    Does that mean we are due an extra surge when it does take hold?
    :(

    That's correct.


  • #6345
    daydorunrun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    Schools need to reopen ASAP. Cases have gone through the roof since they closed.

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



  • #6346
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    three putt wrote: »
    In Spain, mask wearing is mandatory in all outside areas. So yes, you must wear a mask if you're walking on the footpath. You will be fined on the spot if you're not wearing a mask.

    But they are not mandatory because people pass on the footpath, they are mandatory because people gather outside. It would be impossible to police if they made that distinction however


  • #6347
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Quick question is the 5k rule back in action?

    Yes.


  • #6348
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    But they are not mandatory because people pass on the footpath, they are mandatory because people gather outside. It would be impossible to police if they made that distinction however


    Here in Poland even if you're walking on your own, if you don't have a medical cert for exception you will be issued a on the spot fine for none compliance.


  • #6349
    Solar2021
    Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭Solar2021


    wadacrack wrote: »
    This is very worrying in Brazil, the virus must be mutating to a greater extent than what is known.

    https://twitter.com/devisridhar/status/1345631409243906051

    Scary to think about

    Happening in alot of places that were hit hard, just not picked up by media

    China went eradication for a reason and have been slow using pharmacology compared tp what they are capable of


  • #6350
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Population of Brazil is over 200 million
    Even if there where close to 70% infection of the population that still leaves a huge population for the infection to run through.
    But with most tweets like this in relation to heard immunity they forget to mention that although a population becomes immune to a virus it does not mean the virus is eradicated. It will still circulate in the population

    The RO will be below 1 if so, it would not be running through this quickly. This peak being worse than April should not really be happening


  • #6351
    Derek Zoolander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Derek Zoolander


    wadacrack wrote: »
    This is very worrying in Brazil, the virus must be mutating to a greater extent than what is known.

    https://twitter.com/devisridhar/status/1345631409243906051

    I read the thread and there is no mention of mutation - where is the mutation aspect - there are scientists questioning the original serology testing of 70% and asking for genomic sequencing but I didn’t see mutation confirmation - there are maybe sub threads I missed


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  • #6352
    Looney1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭Looney1


    Hospital up to 673. 90 extra in 24 hours


  • #6353
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Population of Brazil is over 200 million
    Even if there where close to 70% infection of the population that still leaves a huge population for the infection to run through.
    But with most tweets like this in relation to heard immunity they forget to mention that although a population becomes immune to a virus it does not mean the virus is eradicated. It will still circulate in the population

    Population of Manaus, though? 2 million.
    I think it is interesting. 70% infection and still going.


  • #6354
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    wadacrack wrote: »
    The RO will be below 1 if so, it would not be running through this quickly. This peak being worse than April should not really be happening

    Estimated at 70%
    Even with a ro at below 0 also an estimate.
    That doesn't factor in how the population are actually adhering to restrictions control measures.
    To many variables to get an accurate picture yet


  • #6355
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Here in Poland even if you're walking on your own, if you don't have a medical cert for exception you will be issued a on the spot fine for none compliance.

    Again the rule is blanket because it would be impossible to police if it was situational. Anyone stopped would say “I’m not in the group, just passing by”


  • #6356
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Population of Manaus, though? 2 million.
    I think it is interesting. 70% infection and still going.

    If you look at the demographic testing for antibiotics they are testing in virus hot spots.


  • #6357
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    wadacrack wrote: »
    The RO will be below 1 if so, it would not be running through this quickly. This peak being worse than April should not really be happening

    In a population of 200million you will have pockets of high prevalence and pockets of low prevalence. It will run rampant through the low prevalence populations but then stop at the high prevalence populations. Manaus also has a highly seasonal population


  • #6358
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    75 admissions to hospital. 673 in hospital


  • #6359
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    In a population of 200million you will have pockets of high prevalence and pockets of low prevalence. It will run rampant through the low prevalence populations but then stop at the high prevalence populations. Manaus also has a highly seasonal population

    Also the first wave was focused predominantly on the poorer areas of the city. There's richer parts weren't hit as hard so there's still plenty of people there to infect.


  • #6360
    Lemonzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 ✭Lemonzero


    Even with level 5 kicking in(presumably) over the coming days /weeks ,still think we will still be in an infinitely more dangerous and more unpredictable scenario with this new variant which is so much more transmissable. Does the 2 metre /15 minute rule even apply for this new variant? Have the social distancing rules we have been given still apply to this variant? Is there enough research done to this new variant to quantify risk.To have it circulating(at 10% according to latest samples I believe) surely changes the playing field in terms of when restrictions will be lifted,schools will be opened.etc?


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  • #6361
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,152 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Interesting article about spread of covid in schools in UK. Seems a lot driven by children who don't have symptoms. Wonder is it same here? https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/02/symptomless-cases-schools-key-driver-spread-covid-19?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium=&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true


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