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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #6092
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Calling it a minor inconvenience is really not helping anyone's cause, expecting young people to hide away for a year and people's businesses and life's ruined is not a minor inconvenience. It may be minor to you buy maybe think outside your little bubble for 5 minutes.




    Selfish people are going to be selfish. Easy to come up with an excuse to justify anything to one's self.


    Saw some article about some UK "celebrity" (I never heard of them) who were arrested trying to fly home after testing positive for corona.


    Bit mean to deny them a flight home? no? I'm sure it would have been a major inconvenience to them to have to spend 2 weeks of their precious time in isolation in a hotel somewhere.


  • #6093
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    It might not have been over night.
    I had a surgical procedure done a few weeks ago, couple of hours in hospital. No test. Couldn't wait to run out of the place.
    Original question (I think!) was asking about how many of the current Covid admissions could be accounted for by people who were admitted for routine procedures and happened to test positive while asymptomatic. Day cases would not count as Covid admissions anyway. Those day cases may or not be tested depending on what the day case procedure is.

    I was trying to explain that if hospitals are following current HPSC guidance regarding routine admissions, then routine admission of someone who is Covid positive shouldn’t or will rarely occur. Routine admissions are supposed to be tested prior to admission and this admission would not proceed if Covid was detected.

    The Covid test could be up to 72 hours prior to admission and of course it is possible that a second test, if done, could subsequently detect Covid. In that situation the person would be discharged as soon as possible unless became sick from Covid. If second test came back before procedure, procedure likely to be cancelled. If test occurred after procedure, that person would need to stay in hospital for whatever would be the minimum recovery time, and then discharged ASAP. In that situation, person would be counted in Covid admissions while within infectious period whether they are sick or not due to Covid as in terms of hospital operation, that person needs an isolation room and staff have to wear full PPE, etc.


  • #6094
    davemckenna25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭davemckenna25


    niallo27 wrote: »
    What about some personal responsibility from the vulnerable, how hard is it to just stay at home or is all the responsibility on the person that might affect them.

    The responsibility lies with everyone. Have you not got that at this stage.....


  • #6095
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    Anyone for a joke to lighten the mood.

    Why do divers jump backwards out of a boat?

    Because if they jumped forwards they would still be in the boat.


    I heard that on the wireless

    What happened to a god's gift, the poster? I liked his funny posts. We need some humour around here.


  • #6096
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    prunudo wrote: »
    Not sure what you class as young, but in my early 40s and I don't fear getting it myself.
    Would I prefer not to get it, absolutely. But my bigger fear would be contracting it and passing it onto my parents who are in their 70s or anyone else for that matter. If I got it I'd deal with it if or when it happened and fight it best I can but up until that point no point worrying about something you can't control.




    You would more than likely be ok if you caught it. The US politician who caught it and died recently was only 41 though I think. You'd probably still be ok to roll that dice for yourself. But imagine having to go through the rest of your days if you passed it onto your parents. Mental to risk that.


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  • #6097
    Living Off The Splash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,179 ✭✭✭Living Off The Splash


    Solar2021 wrote: »
    Looking at that chart

    Time to start locking up the 65+ right now

    Honestly we've been far too PC with them

    They shouldn't be in shops, out and about right now

    For there safety they should be staying at home, online shopping only

    I am in that age bracket. Thankfully we bought an extra fridge freezer during the summer and filled it over a few weeks. The plan is to stay put and empty/eat everything bought. Think we can survive until the end of January. Still need to get bread and milk though.


  • #6098
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,926 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Jesus lads, the amount of back and forth in this thread is crazy now.

    This isn't the time to be blame this or that, just do your part and only worry about that. Seeing someone else gloat or say they are going about their business etc and having a pop at them won't stop them or incline them to stop either.

    Be good to each other, do your part, and hopefully Ireland will come out of this sooner rather than later. 2020 was bad enough, no need to start 2021 in a bitter state with each other.


  • #6099
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    MOR316 wrote: »
    We're all gob****es at that age tbf*

    *Up to age 23...After that, I expected maturity and some sense to start kicking in




    Both older than 23.


    You'd also have thought that they might have gotten a bit of a shock after the first one picked it up. Although maybe it led to complacency if the first one got over it handily enough. Hardly an excuse though


  • #6100
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    TheadoreT wrote: »
    Minuscule is greater than zero. You're still putting them at a greater than negligible risk. Look at the amount of protective gear health staff wear and they still pick it up very often, it's a highly infectious virus.

    From face to face contact in close proximity, or extended exposure in an enclosed space. It’s not March, we know more about how it spreads now than we did then. Masks and hand sanitizer is more than enough to prevent the vast majority of exposures due to brief contact


  • #6101
    Shamboo1801
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Shamboo1801


    niallo27 wrote:
    What about some personal responsibility from the vulnerable, how hard is it to just stay at home or is all the responsibility on the person that might affect them.


    I'm actually with you 100% on this. I know maybe a dozen people who got covid. No symptoms. Were by no means risky, but happened to catch it anyway. All well again. The positives I'm taking are that, even though numbers are high, deaths are low. Yes, every death is unfortunate, but have these been people with previous health issues. They are the ones who need to be protected, plus take personal precautions.


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  • #6102
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    davemckenna25 wrote: »
    The responsibility lies with everyone. Have you not got that at this stage.....

    I agree, thanks for backing up my point, but shouldn't you be saying this to the poster I quoted not me.


  • #6103
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,367 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I imagine this thread just goes around in circles these days.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #6104
    Living Off The Splash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,179 ✭✭✭Living Off The Splash


    TheadoreT wrote: »
    Anyone who's travelled home to parents or grandparents over christmas if they're in a vulnerable age category with the vaccine just around the corner must be looking for inheritance sooner rather than later. Despicable what's gone on over the holidays, especially those who came from UK.
    Neighbours houses full of children returned from the U.K. for Christmas. Not self isolating either.


  • #6105
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,749 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Both older than 23.


    You'd also have thought that they might have gotten a bit of a shock after the first one picked it up. Although maybe it led to complacency if the first one got over it handily enough. Hardly an excuse though

    Was the first one particularly ill from it?

    If not, then it wouldn't be a surprise if they were a bit causal about it


  • #6106
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    MOR316 wrote: »
    We're all gob****es at that age tbf*

    *Up to age 23...After that, I expected maturity and some sense to start kicking in

    My oldest is 29 and a member of AGS , sometimes he still can be immature. Lack of perfection is a common human trait. My FIL is 73 and has a juvenile sense of humour which is incredibly endearing.


  • #6107
    [Deleted User]
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    niallo27 wrote: »
    What about some personal responsibility from the vulnerable, how hard is it to just stay at home or is all the responsibility on the person that might affect them.

    Oh ffs, not this again.

    You do realise that there are people of working age who are vulnerable? That they still have rent or mortgages and bills to pay, kids to take to school, etc? Or that they live or care for a vulnerable person?

    Not everyone who is "vulnerable" is over 65, and can just conveniently lock themselves indoors.
    niallo27 wrote: »
    Calling it a minor inconvenience is really not helping anyone's cause, expecting young people to hide away for a year and people's businesses and life's ruined is not a minor inconvenience. It may be minor to you buy maybe think outside your little bubble for 5 minutes.

    So if you know its not a minor inconvenience, why do you think it would be so easy for vulnerable people to do it?


  • #6108
    lawred2
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    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    I imagine this thread just goes around in circles these days.

    Pretty much...


  • #6109
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Selfish people are going to be selfish. Easy to come up with an excuse to justify anything to one's self.


    Saw some article about some UK "celebrity" (I never heard of them) who were arrested trying to fly home after testing positive for corona.


    Bit mean to deny them a flight home? no? I'm sure it would have been a major inconvenience to them to have to spend 2 weeks of their precious time in isolation in a hotel somewhere.

    You are cherry picking situations to suit your narrative, do you think this is a minor inconvenience to people who lost their businesses or young people that have had little to no social life for a year.


  • #6110
    Living Off The Splash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,179 ✭✭✭Living Off The Splash


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Our gov can't even count the cases properly.

    Their Abacus had lead paint so it was withdrawn apparently. Another bad purchase by the HSE it seems.


  • #6111
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Both older than 23.


    You'd also have thought that they might have gotten a bit of a shock after the first one picked it up. Although maybe it led to complacency if the first one got over it handily enough. Hardly an excuse though

    Perhaps...But, I still don't get that mindset.

    As I've said before, I was out in bars/restaurants, on long walks etc but, always on my own. Over Christmas, I was around some people close to me but, they trusted me that I was careful and followed things correctly, which I did. No issues! No one has the virus, I don't have the virus. Happy days.

    But, in regards this rise in cases and what I'm reading about house parties and the like, I'm baffled by the behaviours of some. By all means, live your life as best as you can but, don't be an arse about it. Be responsible


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  • #6112
    SpacialNeeds
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭SpacialNeeds


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The risk of picking it up at a shop of petrol station is minuscule. Face to face contact is where this spreads.
    How does a petrol station not involve face to face?

    I was getting out of my car to fill it up the other day and a teenager walked between my car and the pump and coughed into the air.

    I waited an extra few seconds before getting out to leave time for any potential virus to blow away.

    I used a glove at the pump and threw it away. Many won't do that.

    I had to stand inside in the queue to get to the till. We were wearing masks but most people just use light reusable ones which do much less in terms of protecting people instead of the actual effective surgical variety.

    Handing over money or having to put your card in the machine as well as taking goods from the cashier are more risks.

    My mother said to me on Christmas day "but you can't get it from surfaces". I have been driving home the risks about this since February to her and she still doesn't even have the basics. She says she thought the information on that changed. So much conflicting information to get people out into the shops and spending leads to idiotic actions.


  • #6113
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Living Off The Splash wrote: »
    Their Abacus had lead paint so it was withdrawn apparently. Another bad purchase by the HSE it seems.

    Where was Tony's letter of concern about that?


  • #6114
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    niallo27 wrote: »
    You are cherry picking situations to suit your narrative, do you think this is a minor inconvenience to people who lost their businesses or young people that have had little to no social life for a year.

    Sounds more like you think vulnerable people are a big inconvenience to your social life.


  • #6115
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    I imagine this thread just goes around in circles these days.

    You get the odd pack forming too. It’s only a discussion forum, nothing said here changes anything in the real world but you think the way some posters behave they are singlehandly trying to avert Armageddon if only the plebs would listen to them.


  • #6116
    TheadoreT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭TheadoreT


    Living Off The Splash wrote: »
    Neighbours houses full of children returned from the U.K. for Christmas. Not self isolating either.

    What chance did we have.

    Nobody ever thinks they're to blame and point the finger elsewhere.


  • #6117
    SpacialNeeds
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭SpacialNeeds


    Shamboo1801 wrote: »
    I'm actually with you 100% on this. I know maybe a dozen people who got covid. No symptoms. Were by no means risky, but happened to catch it anyway. All well again. The positives I'm taking are that, even though numbers are high, deaths are low. Yes, every death is unfortunate, but have these been people with previous health issues. They are the ones who need to be protected, plus take personal precautions.
    Saw this on twitter earlier.

    I know we're not America but when you scale this down it still sucks balls.

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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You get the odd pack forming too. It’s only a discussion forum, nothing said here changes anything in the real world but you think the way some posters behave they are singlehandly trying to avert Armageddon if only the plebs would listen to them.

    Holy pot kettle, Batman


  • #6118
    alan partridge aha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    Just bought a car a few weeks ago with 3 months warranty. Hope we're not put in complete lockdown as I want to drive it around enough so if anything goes faulty they'll fix it.


  • #6119
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    My oldest is 29 and a member of AGS , sometimes he still can be immature. Lack of perfection is a common human trait. My FIL is 73 and has a juvenile sense of humour which is incredibly endearing.

    Ah yeah, of course. I'd be the same. Look at some of my posts here.
    That's whatever but, slight difference between having a child like mindset and outlook and actually having common sense :D


  • #6120
    [Deleted User]
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    SpacialNeeds wrote: »
    How does a petrol station not involve face to face?

    I was getting out of my car to fill it up the other day and a teenager walked between my car and the pump and coughed into the air.

    I waited an extra few seconds before getting out to leave time for any potential virus to blow away.

    I used a glove at the pump and threw it away. Many won't do that.

    I had to stand inside in the queue to get to the till. We were wearing masks but most people just use light reusable ones which do much less in terms of protecting people instead of the actual effective surgical variety.

    Handing over money or having to put your card in the machine as well as taking goods from the cashier are more risks.

    My mother said to me on Christmas day "but you can't get it from surfaces". I have been driving home the risks about this since February to her and she still doesn't even have the basics. She says she thought the information on that changed. So much conflicting information to get people out into the shops and spending leads to idiotic actions.

    Surfaces are a tiny proportion of spread. Your mother appears better at keeping up with the developments in understanding how the virus spreads. Also, outdoors any particles will be dispersed almost immediately


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  • #6121
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Pretty much...

    I think its been decent discussion the last few weeks. Since that 3,000 or so cases today seems to unsettled quite a few. Understandable . The last week or so have been quite a shock. I predicted it was going to be very bad but the numbers currently no one saw coming.


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