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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #5702
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    To be frank, anyone who ignores guidelines, is putting others at risk. We could all have the virus and we could all spread it. Which bit of that are people not getting?

    I take a slightly different view but its dependent on individual circumstances. It can be difficult to live your life on the chance that you may have the virus. I'm not saying that it isn't the right thing to do, just that it can be hard. My sense is that people do understand and get it but that doesn't mean they will act in the appropriate manner.

    Throughout this pandemic the biggest thing I've noticed is fear. When we had low numbers in the summer there were those still terrified to go to a shop or book a few nights in a hotel. Even when the guidelines allowed for it. I understand it.

    A poster earlier wrote about how the situation has changed him and I could relate. I was in a queue in Easons over Christmas and had to ask a woman to stand back from me. The thoughts of standing in a crowded room with strangers makes me feel very nervous.

    That isn't a 'normal' state for a human to be in. Yet here we are. Some will rail against it kicking and screaming, others will put their heads in the sand, some will be 100% compliant and ask no questions, then there's the likes of me who tries to hold on to some bits of regular life and weighs up the risks of each situation. I have my line and that's if I display symptoms or/and am awaiting a test result then I don't step outside my front door.


  • #5703
    Str8outtaWuhan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Str8outtaWuhan


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    Just tried it myself - 'Open from 9am - 5pm on Fri 1st Jan' is the recorded announcement that plays out.

    What a joke 1850 24 1850 is not permanently manned.

    Sorry it wasn't of help OP, you couldn't make this stuff up.

    Note to everybody - if you are going to catch covid and need some emergency advice from the HSE national helpline (the one with 24 in it), make sure you develop symptoms during business hours.

    If anyone needs them urgently, they will be back on the line at 9am in the morning.
    Welcome to ireland, where people only get sick Mon-Fri, 9-5


  • #5704
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    the whole year inn wrote: »
    Yea I'm home from Xmas , so in the same house last 3 weeks. Why haven't the close contact teachers not notified us tho , would they be this slow .
    Yes they would.

    There's a personal responsibility bit here too. If you have good reason to suspect you qualify as a close contact, then you have an ethical duty to act like you are one even if the tracers don't contact you.

    In your case, your mother should assume she is a close contact and restrict her movements. You were not in contact with the nurse and your mother has not developed symptoms, so you don't have to do anything.

    If your mother develops symptoms, she should get a test and you must restrict your movements for 14 days or until she gets a negative test.


  • #5705
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    the whole year inn wrote: »
    Yea I'm home from Xmas , so in the same house last 3 weeks. Why haven't the close contact teachers not notified us tho , would they be this slow .

    I'm not sure. I am aware of similar scenarios unfolding in the first wave, where home helps tested positive and none of their clients were informed. I have my suspicions as to why.


  • #5706
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    I haven’t heard the word ‘cocoon’ recently. Has it been banned?

    Yes it has. I worked on the Alone helpline during lockdown one and older people were not happy with the term - feedback was given to the powers that be. There was a review afterwards and NPHET and Gov decided to drop the word.


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  • #5707
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Scuid Mhór wrote: »
    I disagree.

    He means current restrictions that are adhered to by the majority, hopefully a larger majority than the last time.


  • #5708
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,777 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    SeaFields wrote: »
    I'm lucky enough to live in a very scenic part of Kerry. It's depressing the amount of people around to be honest. Now in a normal year it's common for holiday homes nearby to be occupied over Christmas and New Year's. Today I saw several UK reg cars staying nearby. There are lots of people from up the country. My wife met people in the local beach this morning that had arrived from Leinster on New Years Eve. Awhile ago two car loads of adults arrived to a house across the road from me.

    The message is not getting through. Or is just being completely ignored. What's the F-ing point.

    The point that covid has proved is... there are just too many wánkers on this island and coming here too. Zero interest in playing a part in keeping people well, healthy and alive... they just want to have their fun and fûck everyone and everybody .


  • #5709
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    Yes it has. I worked on the Alone helpline during lockdown one and older people were not happy with the term - feedback was given to the powers that be. There was a review afterwards and NPHET and Gov decided to drop the word.

    Thats gas


  • #5710
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    Just tried it myself - 'Open from 9am - 5pm on Fri 1st Jan' is the recorded announcement that plays out.

    What a joke 1850 24 1850 is not permanently manned.

    Sorry it wasn't of help OP, you couldn't make this stuff up.

    Note to everybody - if you are going to catch covid and need some emergency advice from the HSE national helpline (the one with 24 in it), make sure you develop symptoms during business hours.

    If anyone needs them urgently, they will be back on the line at 9am in the morning.

    What emergency advice would one need that either an out of hrs doctor or emergency services couldn't give?

    How do you think everyone else has been managing since March?!


  • #5711
    RGARDINR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    So when in 2021 do people think it will start to get back to normal? Or do you reckon more 2022 and 2021 will be more like 2020 even with vaccine in play? Do people think that there will be another lockdown after this one later in the year?


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  • #5712
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    Yes it has. I worked on the Alone helpline during lockdown one and older people were not happy with the term - feedback was given to the powers that be. There was a review afterwards and NPHET and Gov decided to drop the word.

    Thats true, my folks were the same, unless alien pods were involved.


  • #5713
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,582 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    Yep. Most of my friends are following restrictions, same as myself, and we all stuck to guidelines for how many we could meet before Christmas etc, but I've a couple who've had multiple house parties since Christmas and then they're wondering why I'm not willing to see them. The mind boggles.


    Most people don't obey the rules. My sister got tested yesterday after spending time in her BF's parents house over Christmas, and the BF's father was coughing and barking, and was later tested and was positive.



    My sister also mixed with family over Christmas, me included. Most people have the attitude '' rules don't apply to me'' '' I don't have it ''


  • #5714
    Treseemme.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 124 ✭✭Treseemme.


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    I haven’t heard the word ‘cocoon’ recently. Has it been banned?

    Hopefully


  • #5715
    RebelButtMunch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    RGARDINR wrote: »
    So when in 2021 do people think it will start to get back to normal? Or do you reckon more 2022 and 2021 will be more like 2020 even with vaccine in play? Do people think that there will be another lockdown after this one later in the year?

    My 2 cents... this is the last level 5 and it'll get better from Jan onwards. Late summer back to a new normal .. e.g travel with vaccination certs


  • #5716
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    the whole year inn wrote: »
    I called they are closed

    Open again at 9am. Self isolate all of your household until you get advice from them.

    If your grandmother? starts showing symptoms and you are worried ring the out of hours doctor and/or ambulance .

    If they are old remember apart from the regular symtoms.. watch out for malaise/tiredness/lack of apetite/confusion/disorientstion/drowsiness/delieruim/altered mental state especially if frail etc.
    Wish you well... your situation is a bit more complex than average hence the HSE number.

    regular symtoms

    https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/symptoms.html

    older/frailer..links to research in text

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54353888

    Finally... keep an eye on your households sense of smell and taste...none at all and/or distorted.


  • #5717
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    the whole year inn wrote: »
    As I posted before , the nurse that comes to my mother on the 22nd December . Why wouldn't we have been contacted for close contact , we found out today she got it ?
    Am I correct we have to isolate till Wednesday ?

    Did you give your contact details to the center? Maybe the nurse forgot about your mother, or gave the wrong number?


  • #5718
    lulublue22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭lulublue22


    the whole year inn wrote: »
    Do I still have to self isolate even tho I haven't got a call from a close contact tracking . I know the nurse that comes to the house has tested positive. This happened on the 22nd December so will have to isolate till Wednesday next .

    My understanding is that you are what was termed a close contact of a close contact. As you’ve said you were not in contact with the nurse but were in contact with your mother. Which generally ment you were not required to do anything unless the close contact (mother) of the positive case ( nurse) tested positive or displayed symptoms and then you would need to isolate and get a test. Since they are not testing close contacts anymore there is no way to know unless your mother develops symptoms. At this point if you are that concerned then isolate and ring your gp on Mon for advice. Tbf it’s not a question randomers on boards can answer if in doubt isolate till u clarify the situation.


  • #5719
    FishOnABike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    My cousin and her young child have both tested positive, after her relative, awaiting test results, HID that they'd had a test and came to visit over Christmas despite being symptomatic.

    People are shocking me daily with this.
    Some people's selfishness and complete disregard for others never ceases to amaze me. Some people just don't seem to care once they can do whatever they want to!


  • #5720
    yerwanthere123
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    RGARDINR wrote: »
    So when in 2021 do people think it will start to get back to normal? Or do you reckon more 2022 and 2021 will be more like 2020 even with vaccine in play? Do people think that there will be another lockdown after this one later in the year?

    I think from the second half of the year things will start returning to normal, i.e hospitality will be open and stay open, schools won't be closed again and new infection rates will be reduced to the extent that most societal restrictions/closures won't be needed any more. Masks and sanitising will still be common place and some public areas/events such as cinemas/sports venues etc. won't be able to operate at full capacity, but we'll have turned a clear corner and will be able to start looking to the future. It might be 2022 before we're able to return to pre-2020 life. This is total guesswork on my part, but I think it's a cautiously reasonable expectation.


  • #5721
    Solar2021
    Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭Solar2021


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    Yes it has. I worked on the Alone helpline during lockdown one and older people were not happy with the term - feedback was given to the powers that be. There was a review afterwards and NPHET and Gov decided to drop the word.

    Can't lose those votes

    Isn't that what it's all about


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  • #5722
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    Yes it has. I worked on the Alone helpline during lockdown one and older people were not happy with the term - feedback was given to the powers that be. There was a review afterwards and NPHET and Gov decided to drop the word.

    My husband was one in the cocooning group . He hoped he would emerge a beautiful butterfly in August but unfortunately he was the same old divil that was in the coccon since March


  • #5723
    RGARDINR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    yerwanthere123 wrote: »
    I think from the second half of the year things will start returning to normal, i.e hospitality will be open and stay open, schools won't be closed again and new infection rates will be reduced to the extent that most societal restrictions/closures won't be needed any more. Masks and sanitising will still be common place and some public areas/events such as cinemas/sports venues etc. won't be able to operate at full capacity, but we'll have turned a clear corner and will be able to start looking to the future. It might be 2022 before we're able to return to pre-2020 life. This is total guesswork on my part, but I think it's a cautiously reasonable expectation.
    I wonder how long WFH will continue for companies etc?


  • #5724
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    RGARDINR wrote: »
    I wonder how long WFH will continue for companies etc?

    A lot of companies are moving to a blended model part wfh, part in the office after this crap ends


  • #5725
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Solar2021 wrote: »
    Can't lose those votes

    Isn't that what it's all about

    Not it's about working together and getting this virus under control. David Cullinane was interviewed a few days ago, and the interviewer asked him do you think it was a mistake lifting restrictions over xmas. I was shocked by his reply: There is no point looking back, we need to work to get this virus under control and support business that are close etc...

    Here was a SF lad that had an open goal to blast the government - but he understands that it achieves nothing and that we do need to work together.

    Could only imagine what Louise O'Reilly would have come out with - thankfully SF realised that she was in over her head and moved her to a different role.


  • #5726
    RGARDINR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Stheno wrote: »
    A lot of companies are moving to a blended model part wfh, part in the office after this crap ends

    Yeah hoping same here, civil service. Here is hoping not back to full wks in the office again. We showed them it can work let's hope they take it on board.


  • #5727
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    the whole year inn wrote: »
    Yea I'm home from Xmas , so in the same house last 3 weeks. Why haven't the close contact teachers not notified us tho , would they be this slow .

    out of hours doctor services choose your county..

    https://www2.hse.ie/services/find-a-gp-out-of-hours/


  • #5728
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    RGARDINR wrote: »
    So when in 2021 do people think it will start to get back to normal? Or do you reckon more 2022 and 2021 will be more like 2020 even with vaccine in play? Do people think that there will be another lockdown after this one later in the year?

    Depends what you mean by normal?

    Seen a timeline of when I'll get the vaccine. Next September!!!

    So I don't see mass gatherings, concerts and matches happening until 2022.


  • #5729
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Stheno wrote: »
    A lot of companies are moving to a blended model part wfh, part in the office after this crap ends

    I feel a lot of companies are saying this - but fast forward 5 years and the same work model will not exist.

    Alternatively companies may let you work from home and pay you less.


  • #5730
    Crocodile Booze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    What time of day have the numbers been announced recently?


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  • #5731
    RGARDINR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Depends what you mean by normal?

    Seen a timeline of when I'll get the vaccine. Next September!!!

    So I don't see mass gatherings, concerts and matches happening until 2022.
    Your right in regards to normal. Interesting what the new normal will be like in say 2 years time.


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