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ExMachina1000 · 02-01-2021 12:14PM

Discodog wrote: »

Maybe Boards need to make it clear what is & is not racism - shouldn't be necessary but ?

Maybe along the lines of if you post this, you will be banned, permanently.

Some may not like it but Boards has always had to be careful.

It's a fine line. Unacceptable comments must be sanctioned and repeat offenders removed.
The crossing of the line is at mods discretion but mods are people who naturally have opinions and dare I say it biases of their own so too much heavy handed action on one side results in an echo like chamber. Then the rot sets in as posts dry up. For the site to earn money to survive it needs traffic. Echo chambers are traffic killers.

The funny thing about it is when some threads do become echo chambers you see remaining posters commenting that the thread has gone quiet. Almost as if people actually really do want others to argue with.

It's not easy

ExMachina1000 · 02-01-2021 12:17PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

To use an example, if you're even to raise the issue of the man who was shot having mental health issues, you will get a pile on. The thread basically operated on a basis of he deserved to die and that he's a scumbag. I'm not even sure if you'll get huge amounts of reports for threads like it since most posters are simply avoiding the thread, myself included after glancing at it.

Very true and I can counter that with an example of a trump thread you frequent. If anyone appears with a pro trump or anti biden comment they also get an immediate pile on. You know what I'm talking about.
Now I stay away and leave you all to it

Just the way it is

Discodog · 02-01-2021 12:20PM

Smee_Again wrote: »

If you need that explained for you then maybe boards isn’t the place for you.

(Not you you )

Very many either don't know, pretend not to or do it deliberately.

Smee_Again · 02-01-2021 12:23PM

Discodog wrote: »

Very many either don't know, pretend not to or do it deliberately.

They all get plenty of warnings, some heed them and some don’t.

Harakiri by mod is fairly common.

Annasopra · 02-01-2021 12:23PM

osarusan wrote: »

A handful of busy reregs.

And a lot of people who were regulars and not reregs too

02-01-2021 12:23PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Very true and I can counter that with an example of a trump thread you frequent. If anyone appears with a pro trump or anti biden comment they also get an immediate pile on. You know what I'm talking about.
Now I stay away and leave you all to it

Just the way it is

Not exactly the same at all, one relates to a man who was shot and died who likely has family members or friends on the site. The other is a Trump thread which for the most part is incredibly tame and not comparable to threads rife with racism.

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

And a lot of people who were regulars and not reregs too

Can think of some pretty prominent regulars that have said some pretty terrible things.

Discodog · 02-01-2021 12:24PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

It's a fine line. Unacceptable comments must be sanctioned and repeat offenders removed.
The crossing of the line is at mods discretion but mods are people who naturally have opinions and dare I say it biases of their own so too much heavy handed action on one side results in an echo like chamber. Then the rot sets in as posts dry up. For the site to earn money to survive it needs traffic. Echo chambers are traffic killers.

The funny thing about it is when some threads do become echo chambers you see remaining posters commenting that the thread has gone quiet. Almost as if people actually really do want others to argue with.

It's not easy

Yes but maybe they need some help to ensure consistency - the lack of which is one of the most common complaints. It can't be that difficult to get the Mods together & agree what will & what not be allowed.

Annasopra · 02-01-2021 12:26PM

Discodog wrote: »

Maybe Boards need to make it clear what is & is not racism - shouldn't be necessary but ?

Maybe along the lines of if you post this, you will be banned, permanently.

Some may not like it but Boards has always had to be careful.

Its difficult to be that prescriptive

Discodog · 02-01-2021 12:27PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

It's a fine line. Unacceptable comments must be sanctioned and repeat offenders removed.
The crossing of the line is at mods discretion but mods are people who naturally have opinions and dare I say it biases of their own so too much heavy handed action on one side results in an echo like chamber. Then the rot sets in as posts dry up. For the site to earn money to survive it needs traffic. Echo chambers are traffic killers.

The funny thing about it is when some threads do become echo chambers you see remaining posters commenting that the thread has gone quiet. Almost as if people actually really do want others to argue with.

It's not easy

That's exactly what happens when you moderate too lightly - the mob drown out opposing opinions producing an echo chamber.

02-01-2021 12:28PM

"pile on" tends to be a weasel word for "i seem to be in the minority here"

Nothing wrong with lots of people disagreeing with you. Maybe you're wrong, maybe you're the only right person- either way you probably need to reflect on what you're looking to achieve by continuing.

Describing the *situation* of everyone disagreeing with you as the problem is revealing imo.

Annasopra · 02-01-2021 12:30PM

Its very clear to me though that with the numbers of posters banned from the forum and the site in the last week or two there is a big problem with racism. And this "excuse" that it was 1 or 2 people reregging is drivel.

Discodog · 02-01-2021 12:32PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Its difficult to be that prescriptive

Yes. Necessary things are often difficult. The alternative could be problematic. Advertisers like clicks & footfall but as has already been shown, they don't want to be associated with the "wrong "opinions.

Discodog · 02-01-2021 12:37PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Its very clear to me though that with the numbers of posters banned from the forum and the site in the last week or two there is a big problem with racism. And this "excuse" that it was 1 or 2 people reregging is drivel.

It's actually scary how posters, that you interact with pleasantly on other fora, really have some extreme views.

ExMachina1000 · 02-01-2021 12:37PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Its very clear to me though that with the numbers of posters banned from the forum and the site in the last week or two there is a big problem with racism. And this "excuse" that it was 1 or 2 people reregging is drivel.

You have the title of moderator under your user name. Can you not request to transfer to that forum to help out the current mods if you don't feel they are doing enough?

Discodog · 02-01-2021 12:42PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

You have the title of moderator under your user name. Can you not request to transfer to that forum to help out the current mods if you don't feel they are doing enough?

Why the hell should they do that

?

Why don't you volunteer

?

ExMachina1000 · 02-01-2021 12:44PM

Discodog wrote: »

Why the hell should they do that ?

Why don't you volunteer ?

Because they themselves are a mod. Actions speak louder than words.

Ok I hereby volunteer to become a mod .

Annasopra · 02-01-2021 12:46PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

You have the title of moderator under your user name. Can you not request to transfer to that forum to help out the current mods if you don't feel they are doing enough?

No. I dont want to moderate that forum. This is feedback. I am giving feedback that there is a problem.

Discodog · 02-01-2021 12:48PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Because they themselves are a mod. Actions speak louder than words.

Ok I hereby volunteer to become a mod .

You need to understand how & why Mods are appointed. A lot are chosen because they clearly have an understanding & interest in a particular area.

I am sure there's a big list asking to be made Mods of CA :pac:

By the way it always used to be the case that asking to be a Mod was a sure way of never being one.

Discodog · 02-01-2021 12:55PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

No. I dont want to moderate that forum. This is feedback. I am giving feedback that there is a problem.

One wonders what would happen if the Prohibition of Incitement To Hatred Act, 1989 was ever really enforced.

ExMachina1000 · 02-01-2021 01:04PM

Discodog wrote: »

You need to understand how & why Mods are appointed. A lot are chosen because they clearly have an understanding & interest in a particular area.

I am sure there's a big list asking to be made Mods of CA :pac:

By the way it always used to be the case that asking to be a Mod was a sure way of never being one.

I don't know what's going on here then. You said why dont I volunteer to which I replied ok I volunteer.

After that it was just white noise and a smiley face

osarusan · 02-01-2021 01:40PM

I know it won't happen, but it would be nice to see the Banlist made public again.

At a childish level, it always warmed the heart to see the usernames of utterly obnoxious posters finally appear there.

02-01-2021 01:41PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Its very clear to me though that with the numbers of posters banned from the forum and the site in the last week or two there is a big problem with racism.

Well the fact they’re banned shows it’s not tolerated, doesn’t it?

ExMachina1000 · 02-01-2021 01:42PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

No. I dont want to moderate that forum. This is feedback. I am giving feedback that there is a problem.

Fair enough.

From the looks of it mod Necro is flat out on his own trying his best to go through posts. I reported a re reg and he was on it straight away but he must be stretched. I just thought he could use an extra pair of hands rather than complaints. As I said you are a mod I thought you could go help him.

No worries. No harm done

TheRepentent · 02-01-2021 02:01PM

osarusan wrote: »

I know it won't happen, but it would be nice to see the Banlist made public again.

At a childish level, it always warmed the heart to see the usernames of utterly obnoxious posters finally appear there.

Yeah the antifa thread was kinda an unofficial one, but that has been closed a good while now.

ExMachina1000 · 02-01-2021 02:04PM

Omackeral wrote: »

With all due respect, that wouldn’t be great.

Why not?

There is a mod on politics. He has a horse on his profile picture, name begins with A. It's a long name anyway but he would be the man for the job. Iv fallen foul of his zero tolerance policy and am permanently banned from politics. Hes a decent chap all the same. No rubbish from him

The lugs brannigan of boards mods.Send him in. Job done

Snake Plisken · 02-01-2021 02:14PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Why not?

There is a mod on politics. He has a horse on his profile picture, name begins with A. It's a long name anyway but he would be the man for the job. Iv fallen foul of his zero tolerance policy and am permanently banned from politics. Hes a decent chap all the same. No rubbish from him

The lugs brannigan of boards mods.Send him in. Job done

What? You mean to shutdown the CA forum and reduce traffic and thus advertisements that help keep boards afloat yeah sure go ahead appoint away!
Also I love the posters moaning about the shooting in Clonee on here yet don't have the conviction to post their point of view in case someone challanges it.

ExMachina1000 · 02-01-2021 02:23PM

Snake Plisken wrote: »

What? You mean to shutdown the CA forum and reduce traffic and thus advertisements that help keep boards afloat yeah sure go ahead appoint away!
Also I love the posters moaning about the shooting in Clonee on here yet don't have the conviction to post their point of view in case someone challanges it.

It's only.the racists who will be banned

Smee_Again · 02-01-2021 02:29PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

It's only.the racists who will be banned

Same thing really.

Annasopra · 02-01-2021 02:37PM

Smee_Again wrote: »

Same thing really.

So you are saying without racism the CA forum would be pretty much nothing. Says a lot.

02-01-2021 02:41PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

So you are saying without racism the CA forum would be pretty much nothing. Says a lot.

There'd be outrage over transgender people which seems to be other popular trend in there. So still pretty bad...

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