Schools closed until February? (part 3)

kippy · 01-01-2021 11:15PM

khaldrogo wrote: »

That's well for you. If I was in a position to just decide not to put my kids in creche for a week I wouldn't have them in creche in the first place!!!

Mine and my partners parents are in the midst of cancer treatments at the moment. We are both essential workers who cant work from home. Who do we get to mind our kids if the schools and creches are closed??

Creches remain open currently.

wirelessdude01 · 01-01-2021 11:17PM

khaldrogo wrote: »

That's well for you. If I was in a position to just decide not to put my kids in creche for a week I wouldn't have them in creche in the first place!!!

What do ye do if s child has to be sent home from school sick?

This whole situation is an utter mess. DES stuck their heads in the sand and refused to put together anything other than what goes on normally. Their added safety measures are essentially wash your hands and say twelve decades of the rosary while crossing the hairs on your toes.

kippy · 01-01-2021 11:17PM

jrosen wrote: »

Because right now some families have nowhere for their children to go. With many having already used annual leave to cover the 2 weeks holidays. I think it’s pretty obvious why people need some certainty. Remember march when government said schools would be back and they never were.
People are panicked and it’s understandable

People should be more panicked by the chances of picking up the disease at the moment and the impact it will have on health services over the coming weeks. Control the controllables is all I would say in these situations.

jrosen · 01-01-2021 11:19PM

kippy wrote: »

Creches remain open currently.

They have been advised to place priority of certain groups which is great for a family If they fall into that group but if you don’t. Then your child will not be a priority for care.
We can accept it’s serious but what’s also serious is the financial commitments people have, mortgages, rents etx. The usual stuff that we all have to pay. It’s absolutely understandable that people are concerned because not everyone has the option to work from home.

khalessi · 01-01-2021 11:21PM

khaldrogo wrote: »

That's well for you. If I was in a position to just decide not to put my kids in creche for a week I wouldn't have them in creche in the first place!!!

Mine and my partners parents are in the midst of cancer treatments at the moment. We are both essential workers who cant work from home. Who do we get to mind our kids if the schools and creches are closed??

It is a very difficult position to be in, and I empathise, both of my parents are getting cancer treatment too and it is a terrible situation for you both.

In the end it will not be up to teachers. I think what is coming down the line will be bigger than what we have seen so far, so everyone will have to cope as best as they can.

C__MC · 01-01-2021 11:24PM

Wouldn't like to be a Leaving Cert student that's for sure
Schools must certainly wont open
Foley should just do the honourable thing Monday , meet with NPHET and give us 5-6 days to get ready for online teaching
She tends to go missing though when the pressure comes on
The online learning wont work, you'll have your 10 that will engage, 10 that come on and a remaining 10 on holidays of some sort
But sure look we will give it a go.

jrosen · 01-01-2021 11:27PM

Fell for exam years, JC is not that important long term and could be cancelled but LC. It can’t be allowed drag out again like it did last year.

I think most people can accept and come around to things once they are treated with respect and actually informed. But the drip feeding of information infuriates people. No one can plan.

vid36 · 01-01-2021 11:29PM

C__MC wrote: »

Wouldn't like to be a Leaving Cert student that's for sure
Schools must certainly wont open
Foley should just do the honourable thing Monday , meet with NPHET and give us 5-6 days to get ready for online teaching
She tends to go missing though when the pressure comes on
The online learning wont work, you'll have your 10 that will engage, 10 that come on and a remaining 10 on holidays of some sort
But sure look we will give it a go.

Scrap February mid-term, shorten Easter and add a couple of weeks at the end of the school year to compensate for the closure until February

C__MC · 01-01-2021 11:31PM

vid36 wrote: »

Scrap February mid-term, shorten Easter and add a couple of weeks at the end of the school year to compensate for the closure until February

I'd be happy enough with that, unfortunately some teachers tend to be touchy when traditional holidays are altered. Hence why get a good bashing in the media.

Summer2020 · 01-01-2021 11:34PM

Why is this not being shouted from the rafters by the media? The fact that there’s likely 5,000 cases a day and not 1,700. People need to know the actual gravity of the situation

History Queen · 01-01-2021 11:36PM

I'm only considering second level here but I really feel that exam classes need to be catered for, half the cohort and bring them in week on/week off. They should be more than capable of working on exam papers/homework/projects during their week at home. Also revisit accommodations made to papers already to allow for more flexibility. I admit it's not the most elegant solution but it's better than full online tuition. As numbers reduce we could then reintroduce the remaining yeargroups in the same pattern on a phased basis. Just a suggestion, but maybe something along these lines would work.

lulublue22 · 01-01-2021 11:38PM

C__MC wrote: »

I'd be happy enough with that, unfortunately some teachers tend to be touchy when traditional holidays are altered. Hence why get a good bashing in the media.

Christ is there anything teachers aren’t blamed for :rolleyes: We get slated in the media as there is zero respect for teaching as a profession.

wirelessdude01 · 01-01-2021 11:40PM

vid36 wrote: »

Scrap February mid-term, shorten Easter and add a couple of weeks at the end of the school year to compensate for the closure until February

So are you advocating that no online teaching occurs so?

Icyseanfitz · 01-01-2021 11:43PM

Im just working under the assumption I'll be in school on the 11th somehow. Trying to figure out the logic with the department is an impossible task so i just assume the most idiotic decision.

vid36 · 01-01-2021 11:47PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

So are you advocating that no online teaching occurs so?

Of course, online teaching should happen but it needs to be supplemented.

Bananaleaf · 01-01-2021 11:55PM

History Queen wrote: »

I'm only considering second level here but I really feel that exam classes need to be catered for, half the cohort and bring them in week on/week off. They should be more than capable of working on exam papers/homework/projects during their week at home. Also revisit accommodations made to papers already to allow for more flexibility. I admit it's not the most elegant solution but it's better than full online tuition. As numbers reduce we could then reintroduce the remaining yeargroups in the same pattern on a phased basis. Just a suggestion, but maybe something along these lines would work.

The way my timetable has fallen (had a full timetable of exam years last year) I have no 3rds or 6ths this year, but if the above was suggested I would have no problem taking half a colleague's class group to do some on-site teaching if it were a case that we had reduced online contact hours with the class groups at home, if that makes sense.

Bananaleaf · 01-01-2021 11:58PM

lulublue22 wrote: »

Christ is there anything teachers aren’t blamed for :rolleyes: We get slated in the media as there is zero respect for teaching as a profession.

Observing my own cohort of friends, I am slowly coming to the conclusion that the only ones who seem to hate teachers are the ones that are not as sucessful as they'd hoped they would be in their own lives. One friend in particular never had a bad word to say about teachers until he suffered a pay cut in his own job.

khaldrogo · 01-01-2021 11:58PM

kippy wrote: »

Creches remain open currently.

Not mine. They emailed tonight saying they are closing until the 11th, a few hours after everyone paid for the month in advance

khaldrogo · 02-01-2021 12:00AM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

What do ye do if s child has to be sent home from school sick?.

Outside of covid, leave work if we can or usually a grandparent does it

History Queen · 02-01-2021 12:01AM

Bananaleaf wrote: »

The way my timetable has fallen (had a full timetable of exam years last year) I have no 3rds or 6ths this year, but if the above was suggested I would have no problem taking half a colleague's class group to do some on-site teaching if it were a case that we had reduced online contact hours with the class groups at home, if that makes sense.

To be honest i think we'd have to do full contact online teaching with the other year groups if they weren't in school. Prerecorded lessons maybe to allow for houses with limited devices/multiple school going kids etc.

NIMAN · 02-01-2021 12:03AM

I haven't read this whole thread but just listening to the news tonight and with the situation getting worse, I can't see my kids being back in school in January.

Bananaleaf · 02-01-2021 12:05AM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Im just working under the assumption I'll be in school on the 11th somehow. Trying to figure out the logic with the department is an impossible task so i just assume the most idiotic decision.

Post of the year and it's still only Jan 01st!

wirelessdude01 · 02-01-2021 12:06AM

vid36 wrote: »

Of course, online teaching should happen but it needs to be supplemented.

I'll say for me it's one or the other. You cannot be expected to do both.

DSN · 02-01-2021 12:34AM

kippy wrote: »

Creches remain open currently.

Mine has decided to close next week too. Main issue being most staff have own kids in schools & work around school hours.

Clouron · 02-01-2021 12:46AM

This has happened me too. After paying a month's fee, the childcare provider wrote to all parents yesterday saying they made the decision to extend closure. Hsve asked for a rebate on lost days or will deduct from next month. I Do have to go to work!

On extended school closure, if it continues, will be interested to see employers stance this time to staff with children at home needing help and care. Very hard to work from home with children at home, there was no let-up on video calls etc....work doesn't just go away...my memories of the last time are stressful!!

quote="DSN;115774072"]Mine has decided to close next week too. Main issue being most staff have own kids in schools & work around school hours.[/quote]

khalessi · 02-01-2021 12:57AM

Clouron wrote: »

On extended school closure, if it continues, will be interested to see employers stance this time to staff with children at home needing help and care. Very hard to work from home with children at home, there was no let-up on video calls etc....work doesn't just go away...my memories of the last time are stressful

I know the feeling I found it hard wfh, teaching the last time online with my kids also needing teaching, they had to work away while I taught, as you said the work doesnt go away.

jrosen · 02-01-2021 01:00AM

Terrible they took the money and then pulled the plug.

Hope for anyone stuck their employers are flexible.

jrosen · 02-01-2021 01:00AM

Terrible they took the money and then pulled the plug.

Hope for anyone stuck their employers are flexible.

JRant · 02-01-2021 01:00AM

Looks like it going to be a couple of months of home schooling (it most certainly won't be "on-line" learning). Similar to March - June last year where the weekly email would arrive on a Monday morning and that would be that till the following week. Not looking forward to trying to balance a 2 year old, 6 year old and WFH again but what can you do.

frank8211 · 02-01-2021 02:23AM

alentejo wrote: »

Schools should reopen on the 11th of Jan.

If not, they should open asap and or face an additional month during the summer. We cant deprive children of an education. Full stop!

Of course not -even if everyone else is deprived of any human contact. Maybe 80% of the country stay in the house till March so as kids go to school. Im not sure if that is fair, And why equate education with going into a class with 30 from 30 houses like people did 100 years ago - rather than logging in from home, like they do all evening to talk to friends, order stuff etc

Schools closed until February? (part 3)

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