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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    One thing I’ve learned about humanity in 2020 is that we are fcuked as a species if/when something a lot more fatal comes along.

    That’s a fact.

    If a really lethal virus like H5N1 went global, it would be shut down at the location. No air travel and full curfew.

    Could it be stopped?
    What have we learned from this experience to prepare?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Benimar


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    If it had all its faults it should have been fixed . They had all bloody summer

    Again, how did this lead to an increase in cases from 200 at the start of December to 2,000 on NYE?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Stheno wrote: »
    The IT system should have been upgraded

    They've had ten months

    They've had year, alot of the HSE systems still run on old operating systems that should have been upgraded ages ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,615 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    lawred2 wrote: »
    They were all maybe within 5km of their homes

    Including yourself

    But you're not the problem. They are.


    I was driving, and essential .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,615 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    One thing I’ve learned about humanity in 2020 is that we are fcuked as a species if/when something a lot more fatal comes along.

    That’s a fact.




    Those who built dooms day shelters will have their day, I have no doubt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,398 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    wadacrack wrote: »

    They can **** right off tbh


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    fits wrote: »
    I am out of work in January. I’m an Experienced research project manager but can turn my hand to a lot of things. If anyone knows of any way I could help please get in touch via pm.

    Project manager??? Jaysus we need things speeded up not slowed down:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Benimar wrote: »
    Again, how did this lead to an increase in cases from 200 at the start of December to 2,000 on NYE?

    Because they are not getting to inform close contacts or test them . They lost control


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    wadacrack wrote: »

    There's something off to about that video.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I really hope the vaccination programme doesn't turn into a sh1t show by the HSE over the next few weeks.

    I think it's fair to say the sanity of a lot of people will go to pieces if they make a balls of it.

    A few of the less manic of us will cope.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    They've had year, alot of the HSE systems still run on old operating systems that should have been upgraded ages ago

    I know

    They pay Microsoft a small fortune to keep those old systems supported

    Its all a bit nuts


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Project manager??? Jaysus we need things speeded up not slowed down:)

    Ah now. Project managers have their uses :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,615 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    All these concert commercials on tv are a joke, they are literally weeks away. Not a chance ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Stheno wrote: »
    I know

    They pay Microsoft a small fortune to keep those old systems supported

    Its all a bit nuts

    Yup, I had a year to retire loads of 2008 servers, with the money they pay Microsoft they could have done it in no time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    At rate UK are vaccinating, they'll have 60yr+ done by mid-March

    We are a laughing stock in that regard

    The UK bought the vaccines themselves did they not?

    The ones we have at the moment we got under the EU plan so we get our proportion.

    And we have a large order in for the Oxford Vaccine.

    If the vaccines available were being sold to the highest bidding country It would probably be 2024 before we would get any. This you fail to realise. Why should Ireland get the vaccine over an African country for instance? It's reported that it will be mid 2021 before African get the vaccine.

    But let's not let that get in your way of bashing the government.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yup, I had a year to retire loads of 2008 servers, with the money they pay Microsoft they could have done it in no time

    I work in a well resourced multinational and we are still running some systems off XP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,100 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Benimar wrote: »
    Again, how did this lead to an increase in cases from 200 at the start of December to 2,000 on NYE?

    Because people trust the systems in place work. If contact tracing is falling apart, people were going around unknowingly infectious as there was a delay in letting them know they were close contacts.
    Yes people spread the virus, but if the systems that were put in place to protect us fail, all the blame can't be laid on the public or excess socialising.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Yup, I had a year to retire loads of 2008 servers, with the money they pay Microsoft they could have done it in no time

    In fairness where I work we have the odd 2003 server knocking about. Our IT estate is pretty big though

    All due to be nuked shortly

    One of my least favourite phrases - "technical debt"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭Polar101


    The Gardaí have a solution - "intensive mobile high visibility checkpoints".

    What does that mean? I guess we'll find out.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1231/1187117-garda-level-5-visibility-team/


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    Not testing close contacts could be an absolute disaster move.

    If one of the people I live with were a close contact, they'd restrict their movements. If they asymptomatically have covid, they wouldn't know due to no test.

    I wouldn't be recommended to isolate because they are the close contact, not me. If they have it with no symptoms, I'm potentially carrying it into 200+ people a day in work.



    I'd imagine it's a similarly worrying situation for many who live with others. Close contact isolates, but there's no isolation pay for the people who live with them, so those people will continue to work, and potentially spread the virus, despite technically not being a close contact.

    It's a complete clusterfcuk. Testing close contacts if they have symptoms... People seem to have different symptoms... another thread posted here has someone with headaches and a back pain and those symptoms aren't even on the HSE site so you'll have people thinking they're fine because they don't have fever or cough. It's a huge mess and I don't see how things will get better when people are out spreading it.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Polar101 wrote: »
    The Gardaí have a solution - "intensive mobile high visibility checkpoints".

    What does that mean? I guess we'll find out.

    Is that not checkpoints like they had at Naast on the N7 which caused loads of delays?

    Or is it more local ones like we had in March?
    One of those wanted my address to see how far away I lived from the supermarket

    Another was sound enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭embraer170


    Happy new year to everyone, can’t believe we’ve been banging on for 30 threads since the start of 2020 with plenty of disagreements :D

    Highlights of the year:
    - Clayton Hotel Pearse Street
    - First case
    - Will they won’t they cancel the parade
    - Paddy’s Day Speech
    - 40,000 tests cancelled
    - Social distancing will be over in a month
    - Social distancing will never end
    - Cleaning your shopping
    - American tourists
    - meat plants and LOKdown
    - NPHET repeatedly blaming various groups
    - 2nd lockdown debate
    - vaccine news - it works, approved, arrival


    Gotta say though, it seems like there’s a nice balance in the thread these days with actual discussion and analysis and even those on both extreme ends of the spectrum still mostly managing to explain what they’re talking about ;)

    Here’s to another year, a hopefully a far better one, with the vaccine thread becoming more popular than the general one.

    You forgot to include Cheltenham in the highlights.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    embraer170 wrote: »
    You forgot to include Cheltenham in the highlights.

    And the Italians
    And the school skiing trips


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Stheno wrote: »
    One of my least favourite phrases - "technical debt"

    * for the next sprint


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    * for the next sprint

    /shudder you're giving me flashbacks to my last week in work


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    So this not testing business...

    Is the testing system over capacity already?
    Should we have no confidence in the case numbers?

    Essentially, what happened today?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    It's a complete clusterfcuk. Testing close contacts if they have symptoms... People seem to have different symptoms... another thread posted here has someone with headaches and a back pain and those symptoms aren't even on the HSE site so you'll have people thinking they're fine because they don't have fever or cough. It's a huge mess and I don't see how things will get better when people are out spreading it.

    That's why we have a lockdown - with everything closed people won't be out and about spreading it. If everyone in the country acted as if they had it, less people would actually get it.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Stheno wrote: »
    /shudder you're giving me flashbacks to my last week in work

    I miss the buzz of it all. Have been out of work since May :(


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