Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

Away With The Fairies · 31-12-2020 07:13PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

But with a substantially lower risk of that happening

If that makes you feel better.

Plumbthedepths · 31-12-2020 07:14PM

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

Well imo that's verging on cynicism. I was very impressed by the vaccine rollout pdfs the HSE unveiled a few weeks ago. I would suggest giving them a google if you have time.

Paper or an excel sheet doesn’t refuse words/figures tbh . You faith in the HSE is endearing but perhaps naive.

31-12-2020 07:15PM

Mwengwe wrote: »

Absolute nonsense, if it's done properly it'll be mid-February at the latest.

The virus can't spread when people stay at home, that's the whole idea.

“If it’s done properly”. This isn’t a lockdown like last March. Personally I’m steeling myself for Easter. I’ll be thrilled if it’s earlier

Scuid Mhór · 31-12-2020 07:15PM

Deleted User wrote: »

But with a substantially lower risk of that happening

I hope so, woody22. It's going to be strange observing myself to see if symptoms develop.

lukas8888 · 31-12-2020 07:16PM

MarkY91 wrote: »

My auntie was in close contact with a confirmi positive case. She doesn't know what to do in terms of getting a test. She said the only option she has is to pay €250 at the beacon hospital?

She said the HSE are uncontactable all day.

Randox have 6 sites all over the country,2 in Dublin plus Cork ,limerick, Galway, Sligo, PCR test online bookings cost 99 euro.

Queried · 31-12-2020 07:16PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

If people restrict their movements, don't meet anyone or go anywhere how does that cause further spread.

That's how you stop the spread.

That's true but when close contacts are not being tested, those who would be deemed positive would have their own close contacts who may still be going to work. Not everyone will be able to stay at home unfortunately.

AutoTuning · 31-12-2020 07:18PM

Sure if you call that HSE live 1850 24 1850 number all you get is an American synthesised voice reading scripts at you. It's a complete joke. You'd have as much useful discussion with Siri.

iamwhoiam · 31-12-2020 07:18PM

So The HSE have said the system was an old one and not fit for purpose . So why the bloody hell did they not update it

31-12-2020 07:19PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

If that makes you feel better.

That’s what the experts tell me, rather than a randomer on the internet

ninebeanrows · 31-12-2020 07:19PM

prunudo wrote: »

Something has gone seriously wrong with both the testing, track and trace and modeling in the last week. Were the test centres short staffed for Christmas? Did the public not go for tests as they wanted to wait till after Christmas? Were the demographics older and therefore more hospitalisations.
I think something more complex happened than simply blaming socialising and a so called new strain. The swab numbers today are crazy but it also makes me wonder how were there so many infectious people on Christmas day without realising they were ill. And where in turn had they been the week before that they became infected themselves.

High level of asymptomatic carriers

Stheno · 31-12-2020 07:19PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

If that makes you feel better.

Would you not make good on your promise and go to bed for the rest of the year?

Jim_Hodge · 31-12-2020 07:20PM

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

Anyone?

If you're a close contact you should be getting a test, not waiting to decide yourself if you have symptoms. Asymptomatic spread is a major issue.

spookwoman · 31-12-2020 07:21PM

AutoTuning wrote: »

I'm highly cynical about the HSE. Every experience I have had with them in recent years has been a fiasco. I have basically zero confidence in them and that is based on my experience, not cynicism.

Until I see the vaccines actually rolling out at some degree of pace, I am not going to take some rosey view of an organisation that couldn't organise a p*** up in a brewery.

25 nursing home to get vaccines from Monday the week after they will start rolling it out.
2 weeks ago just under 600 reported, a week later 1k and now getting about 1500 - 1700 reported a day with 4k backlog.
It's going to take a long time before ordinary people start getting vaccinated and the same people are not going follow the restrictions. I would not call that cynical.

Stheno · 31-12-2020 07:23PM

CharlieHaghy wrote: »

Numbers on the decrease today looking promising.

The numbers today are meaningless there is over 4000 cases in the backlog

BattleCorp · 31-12-2020 07:23PM

prunudo wrote: »

Something has gone seriously wrong with both the testing, track and trace and modeling in the last week. Were the test centres short staffed for Christmas? Did the public not go for tests as they wanted to wait till after Christmas? Were the demographics older and therefore more hospitalisations.
I think something more complex happened than simply blaming socialising and a so called new strain. The swab numbers today are crazy but it also makes me wonder how were there so many infectious people on Christmas day without realising they were ill. And where in turn had they been the week before that they became infected themselves.

Dumb fcuks down my way going to huge funerals and hugging and kissing people on the cheek while waiting for the results of their covid test. So I'm blaming socialising.

prunudo · 31-12-2020 07:24PM

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

High level of asymptomatic carriers

Which is then worrying that it has turned into a high number of symptomatic carriers for so many to be getting tested this week.
At the end of the day we and now in a dodgy place but I just can't get over the speed at which it ahs deteriorated.

Sardonicat · 31-12-2020 07:25PM

CharlieHaghy wrote: »

Numbers on the decrease today looking promising.

Just so long as you pretend you cant see the 4,000 positives as yet unreported, then yeah, it looks great.

Stheno · 31-12-2020 07:25PM

prunudo wrote: »

Which is then worrying that it has turned into a high number of symptomatic carriers for so many to be getting tested this week.
At the end of the day we and now in a dodgy place but I just can't get over the speed at which it ahs deteriorated.

30000 people came home from the UK for Christmas

That no doubt added to the chaos

Jim_Hodge · 31-12-2020 07:25PM

CharlieHaghy wrote: »

Numbers on the decrease today looking promising.

Are you serious ? Maybe read beyond the headlines .

prunudo · 31-12-2020 07:26PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

Dumb fcuks down my way going to huge funerals and hugging and kissing people on the cheek while waiting for the results of their covid test. So I'm blaming socialising.

Did the vaccine make people off guard. Was it the fact we were doing so well compared to other countries. After close on 10 months of this, I can't believe people are so niave not to be mindful of there actions.

Away With The Fairies · 31-12-2020 07:28PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

If you're a close contact you should be getting a test, not waiting to decide yourself if you have symptoms. Asymptomatic spread is a major issue.

Guess you haven't heard the news? Close contacts aren't being tested anymore unless they have symptoms.

Stheno · 31-12-2020 07:28PM

prunudo wrote: »

Which is then worrying that it has turned into a high number of symptomatic carriers for so many to be getting tested this week.
At the end of the day we and now in a dodgy place but I just can't get over the speed at which it ahs deteriorated.

Sorry hit reply too quick

If even 10% of the 30000 were incubating covid and each had 6.close contacts thats 18000 cases alone

Then add in mixing in households as was allowed, people maybe not being cautious and thats pretty much the numbers imo

prunudo · 31-12-2020 07:29PM

Stheno wrote: »

30000 people came home from the UK for Christmas

That no doubt added to the chaos

And as I said yesterday or the day before, that really really annoys me. We're stuck back in 5km restrictions and the rest because nobody has had the foresight at a minimum to introduce even basic testing at air and seaports.
No, just head in the sand and pretend its not happening.

hmmm · 31-12-2020 07:29PM

prunudo wrote: »

Did the vaccine make people off guard. Was it the fact we were doing so well compared to other countries. After close on 10 months of this, I can't believe people are so niave not to be mindful of there actions.

I don't get that impression from people I know. I think more than anything else it was the sense that you needed to get out and socialise while things were opened that had people packing into places.

No enforcement of rules, rush to socialise, packed into places with all the windows closed, cold dry air - it was a perfect storm. Then after everyone had caught it in the pub, they got together with all their elderly relatives for Christmas dinner. Many of them will be meeting up again this evening, just at the point they are most infectious.

It's a mixture of ignorance, political fecklessness and poor education on how the virus spreads.

HeyV · 31-12-2020 07:30PM

Stheno wrote: »

The numbers today are meaningless there is over 4000 cases in the backlog

Can’t understand why they announced the cases as 1620 or whatever they said when this 4K number is not included. Not mentioned on TheJournal.ie and while RTÉ News mention it, it’s nearly down at the end of the report.

Arghus · 31-12-2020 07:31PM

Well, I reckon MM will be down those steps again before the lecturn has been even put away.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 31-12-2020 07:31PM

HeyV wrote: »

Can’t understand why they announced the cases as 1620 or whatever they said when this 4K number is not included. Not mentioned on TheJournal.ie and while RTÉ News mention it, it’s nearly down at the end of the report.

Because every day there is a difference between swabs and cases.

The case numbers are verified cases.

Stheno · 31-12-2020 07:31PM

HeyV wrote: »

Can’t understand why they announced the cases as 1620 or whatever they said when this 4K number is not included. Not mentioned on TheJournal.ie and while RTÉ News mention it, it’s nearly down at the end of the report.

They have not been able to confirm the number,

ElJeffe · 31-12-2020 07:31PM

Just watching the UK news there. If we are a week behind them our health service is screwed.

spookwoman · 31-12-2020 07:32PM

Epidemiology report since the 21/12/2020 69 people have been reported as travel related as of 28/12. With the backlogs etc you can expect that number to be a lot higher

Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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