Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

Polar101 wrote: »

Not sure if there is any reliable data yet, but I think they were planning to include the vaccination numbers with the other daily numbers.

Per Stephen Donnelly

Good discussion yesterday on publishing regular updates with the number of people who receive the Coronavirus vaccine. We’ve focused on Covid case numbers for so long. Will be good to have another set of figures with positive news.

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Per Stephen Donnelly

Good to see they've been having discussions about this, however it was unfortunate that the vaccines dropped out of the sky on them completely without warning, and they were unable to have these discussions a few months ago and get the systems in place.

It will be great to see the total number of vaccinations when it is provided today.

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Now it's getting absurd. You're twisting anything and everything to fit your predetermined view.

Good luck!!

If the pandemic had started 2 weeks ago, he could claim tomorrow that it has been around years with that logic

growleaves wrote: »

But you can't simultaneously trust other people to do your thinking for you, however qualified you consider them, and then get annoyed when someone points out that you have out-sourced your thinking. You HAVE outsourced your thinking.

The world is too complicated to not rely on experts.

If I'm having brain surgery, I don't interrupt the surgeon to ask him why he's doing something a particular way. I don't insist to Ryanair that I fly my own plane. I haven't done an apprenticeship to learn building trades and insisted on building my own house.

The idea that my thinking on a virus and epidemics is better than someone who has spent their life working in this area is a ridiculous idea. I can be an interested observer, and bring some ideas to bear, but ultimately I'm someone with "L" plates in this area.

hmmm wrote: »

The world is too complicated to not rely on experts.

If I'm having brain surgery, I don't interrupt the surgeon to ask him why he's doing something a particular way. I don't insist to Ryanair that I fly my own plane. I haven't done an apprenticeship to learn building trades and insisted on building my own house.

The idea that my thinking on a virus and epidemics is better than someone who has spent their life working in this area is a ridiculous idea. I can be an interested observer, and bring some ideas to bear, but ultimately I'm someone with "L" plates in this area.

As I said many times before, the media directed us to believe the Imperial College modelling and discount the Oxford Infectious Diseases Labs summary right from the offing.

You are taking direction from an official scientific bureaucracy, as mediated by a political-media apparatus.

Other opinions, lay and qualified, are discounted not on their merits but said to lack validity inherently.

This is even though appeal to authority is a widely recognised logical fallacy.

NPHET warns Level 5 may not be enough to curb virus

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1231/1187136-nphet-letter-covid/

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Now it's getting absurd. You're twisting anything and everything to fit your predetermined view.

Good luck!!

Lol

My predetermined view that lockdowns will go on beyond next March?

M. Martin said end of 2021.

NPHET will want us back to a March lockdown before long

Stheno wrote: »

Full closure of non essential retail and 2km limit ? Full closure of construction schools and childcare?

Yup a March lockdown again

Good luck to them getting public buy in for that

Time to throw in the towel and just live beside the virus, personal responsibility and get your test done ASAP if you feel you have it

****ing sick of it at this stage, negativity, scare tactics and constant in and out of lockdowns

4363 positive swabs, 16.63% positivity on 26,238 swabs.

Yikes, and there's a backlog on top of that too

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

It sure is. 4363 positive swabs today. We must be missing the same number again with the positivity rate where it is. That would add up to 60000 cases a week. Shocking stuff.

Holy hell, where did you see those swab numbers :eek:

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Looks like the situation is continuing to deteriorate

And yet that letter has no real recommendations apart from a full Level 5, which we are very close to and hitting tonight anyway. What is it you imagine they want the government to do?