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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,399 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Was it really zero back in March or was it the case that there was undiagnosed Covid already in the hospital system?
    Well there certainly wasn't 200 undiagnosed in hospital before the first confirmed case was hospitalized.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    marno21 wrote: »
    Boris showed symptoms on March 26th and tested positive on March 27th. He wasn't admitted to hospital until April 5th, 9 days after showing symptoms and God knows how long after getting infected.

    Trump is a different story. Most of what happened with him doesn't add up. He spent 3 days in hospital yet was given 2 theraputics which are normally given to people with severe covid-19 or in intensive care.

    Boris was in hospital in April? I didn't think it was that early in the year but the time/the year flew.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    For definite there was undiagnosed covid cases in hospitals. I'm convinced my wife was one of those.
    There was a confirmed case reported in medical journal and media in Cork University Hospital in February. A 43 year old man who sadly passed away after almost four weeks in ICU.

    He had no travel history or no known close contact with anyone else who had travelled to endemic areas but doctors there went outside guidelines at the time and tested him anyway. Source of his infection was not identified. Community transmission was happening already therefore at that stage. Another case identified who tested positive on March 12th who had no personal or contact travel history but was also tested outside guidelines at that time and was confirmed positive showing community transmission was happening earlier than initially thought.

    There were likely to have been more cases in hospitals in February and March who went undiagnosed as they were outside guidelines for testing but did already have Covid due to community transmission.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Well there certainly wasn't 200 undiagnosed in hospital before the first confirmed case was hospitalized.
    Would be surprised if there were 200 cases but there were certainly some that went undiagnosed in hospital in February and March.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    majcos wrote: »
    Would be surprised if there were 200 cases but there were certainly some that went undiagnosed in hospital in February and March.

    Any idea of record hospital admissions back in March?

    We had 60 today, ostensibly


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Any idea of record hospital admissions back in March?

    We had 60 today, ostensibly

    New admissions every 24hrs only go back to april. Cases in hospital got back to march on the hub

    Only record I can find going back further was 20/03 there had been 211 admissions so far


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭jams100


    rob316 wrote: »
    Gyms are absolutely ****ed financially, January is there bread and butter for sign ups. I was speaking to a friend who co-owns a gym last week and he said it's a bridge too far if there is another lockdown, they don't see themselves opening again.

    Same applies to golf clubs...who's going to pay for these things if you can't use them for months per year...these aren't a cheap expense either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    spookwoman wrote: »
    New admissions every 24hrs only go back to april. Cases in hospital got back to march on the hub

    I know!

    That's what I'm asking about. Where can we find the data for the previous month?
    It was an interesting month


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    However, something like 400 people were tested in the ROI before the first case was confirmed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    I know!

    That's what I'm asking about. Where can we find the data for the previous month?
    It was an interesting month

    All the info I have after going through reports

    hospital-start.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    spookwoman wrote: »
    All the info I have after going through reports

    hospital-start.jpg

    If I'm reading that correctly today's 60 admissions is a new record


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    If I'm reading that correctly today's 60 admissions is a new record

    I think I am now actually "reading" it even better, and I can see most of March 2020 is lopped off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    If I'm reading that correctly today's 60 admissions is a new record

    Yep 57 was the previous highest on the 9/4/2020


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭embraer170


    Supercell wrote: »
    Bad as it is here it could be far worse, the Germans have 5600 in intensive care at the moment, that's the equivalent of approximately 330 here, doesn't bear thinking about.

    The difference is Germany actually sends older people (including those residing in nursing homes) to hospital and even ICU if required, although I will admit that the COVID-19 death rate there is actually pretty shocking right now (it was fully under control until November or so).

    The HSE (and NHS) critical care admission criteria is absolutely shocking.

    NHS COVID-19 decision support tool:
    http://prod-upp-image-read.ft.com/765d3430-7a57-11ea-af44-daa3def9ae03?fbclid=IwAR1aKxYPL4zwSsMjmZ0Ob5Vqzj9DLfqSDcIy0FlQSOfjpJib7qkh5xQ8hqs

    My father would have been excluded from care 25 years ago but is still alive today, and I really wish to spend a few more Christmases with him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭Pcgamer


    School children riddled with virus, then elderly relatives over for Xmas.

    Receipe for disaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭embraer170


    I suppose travel in and out of the country is fine, but everything else in our lives is not. Honestly. But I reckon EU have banned banning travel, and they are dragging their feckin heels WRT Astra Zenica too.

    Can't help but admire UK, for all their muck ups with Covid and Brexit they are streets ahead.

    Plenty of EU countries make travel as difficult as possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,276 ✭✭✭IRISHSPORTSGUY


    Today just nails it home that we need vaccination and we need it so fast. This delay in the AZ one on the EU side is absolutely infuriating. It's obvious the vaccine is safe, but there is either a delay with AZ sending info to the EMA or the EMA are being ridiculously pedantic. There is NO excuse for either happening.
    News 30/12/2020
    EMA’s assessment of the COVID-19 vaccine being developed by AstraZeneca and Oxford University has been progressing over the past weeks. The Agency is currently assessing data on the vaccine as part of a rolling review.

    So far, some evidence has been assessed on safety and efficacy coming from a pooled analysis of interim clinical data from four ongoing clinical trials in the UK, Brazil and South Africa. The latest clinical package was received on 21 December and is currently being assessed. CHMP has already assessed data from laboratory studies (non-clinical data) and is currently assessing data on the vaccine’s quality (on its ingredients and the way it is manufactured).

    Additional scientific information on issues related to quality, safety and efficacy of the vaccine is deemed necessary to support the rigour required for a conditional marketing authorisation and this has been requested from the company.

    Further information from the ongoing clinical trials is also expected from January. Interim data from a large trial ongoing in the USA are expected in Q1 2021.

    EMA is aware that the UK MHRA has granted a temporary authorisation of supply of the vaccine in the emergency use setting, which is distinct from a marketing authorisation. EMA, its European experts and the European Commission are working towards conditional marketing authorisation of COVID-19 vaccines, with all the safeguards, controls and obligations that this imposes. It guarantees that the vaccine meets rigorous EU standards for safety, efficacy and quality and comes with:

    full prescribing information and package leaflet with detailed instructions for safe use;
    a robust risk-management and safety monitoring plan;
    manufacturing controls including batch controls for vaccines and conditions for storage;
    an investigation plan for use in children;
    legally binding post-approval obligations (i.e. conditions) and a clear legal framework for evaluation of emerging efficacy and safety data.
    EMA will complete its assessment according to its usual standards for quality, safety and effectiveness. A marketing authorisation ensures that COVID-19 vaccines meet the same high EU standards as for all vaccines and medicines.

    I sincerely hope they aren't waiting for the US trial results (some reports saying April!)

    Prediction: If the EU is still twiddling its thumbs on the AstraZeneca vaccine come the end of January, lots of countries will break away from 'EMA solidarity' and make their own calls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    Happy New Year everyone!!!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    majcos wrote: »
    There was a confirmed case reported in medical journal and media in Cork University Hospital in February. A 43 year old man who sadly passed away after almost four weeks in ICU.

    He had no travel history or no known close contact with anyone else who had travelled to endemic areas but doctors there went outside guidelines at the time and tested him anyway. Source of his infection was not identified. Community transmission was happening already therefore at that stage. Another case identified who tested positive on March 12th who had no personal or contact travel history but was also tested outside guidelines at that time and was confirmed positive showing community transmission was happening earlier than initially thought.

    There were likely to have been more cases in hospitals in February and March who went undiagnosed as they were outside guidelines for testing but did already have Covid due to community transmission.

    There was a retrospective study of patients in hospital...records/ samples... found c feb16th .. will root info out and post later. First community case.. read the paper.. more about his and another patients medical journey virtual zero on the epidemiology research of the possible origin of his case. Had he not been in hospital a first time then discharged and only the second time he came back was diaganosed?..As I have said here twice before ...fair due to the doctor who went against the NPHET/HSE guidelines and did what was best for their patient. May he rest in peace and thoughts to the family who allowed the information into the public domain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Pcgamer wrote: »
    School children riddled with virus, then elderly relatives over for Xmas.

    Receipe for disaster.

    And clowns knacker drinking on the streets, no protection and no control.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    And clowns knacker drinking on the streets, no protection and no control.

    Ah yes, not the people out filming them. Funny they don’t appear to be ‘terrified of catching Covid’ as they seem to make it their business to show up at busy places to film people. Pathetic behaviour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Pcgamer wrote: »
    School children riddled with virus, then elderly relatives over for Xmas.

    Receipe for disaster.

    Children are not anymore riddled than the community. Some poster’s attitude towards schools and children on this thread are borderline psychotic.
    I really hope you don’t have children or work anywhere near them reading this this comment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I sincerely hope they aren't waiting for the US trial results (some reports saying April!)

    Prediction: If the EU is still twiddling its thumbs on the AstraZeneca vaccine come the end of January, lots of countries will break away from 'EMA solidarity' and make their own calls.
    Not solely an EMA issue. The EMA has asked for more quality data and AstraZeneca have not sought approval yet. It was hoped that it could be approved in January but may be later than that. We should have vaccine number 2 - Moderna, from next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Ah yes, not the people out filming them. Funny they don’t appear to be ‘terrified of catching Covid’ as they seem to make it their business to show up at busy places to film people. Pathetic behaviour.
    It does take quite a bit of mental disconnect to see "citizen journalism" as not being part of the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,034 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Ah yes, not the people out filming them. Funny they don’t appear to be ‘terrified of catching Covid’ as they seem to make it their business to show up at busy places to film people. Pathetic behaviour.

    From the drinkers aye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Virus related research - the potential use of UV LEDs as disinfectant. As with all disinfectants it claims to kill 99.9%!

    Researchers from Tel Aviv University (TAU) have proven that the coronavirus can be killed efficiently, quickly, and cheaply using ultraviolet (UV) light-emitting diodes (UV-LEDs)

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/12/201214164328.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭MintyMagnum


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Virus related research - the potential use of UV LEDs as disinfectant. As with all disinfectants it claims to kills 99.9%!

    ...'if only there was some way to light inside the body'...DT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    Keep on having some fun at the expense of businesses shutting down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,108 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Pcgamer wrote: »
    School children riddled with virus, then elderly relatives over for Xmas.

    Receipe for disaster.

    But sure yesterday you told us to calm down and stop scaremongering because only old people die from this.

    Make up your mind.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    But sure yesterday you told us to calm down and stop scaremongering because only old people die from this.

    Make up your mind.

    There’s a lot of nonsense on here purely intended to distract. They are doing their job if no one is talking about the cluster fvck our ‘strategy’ has been or if no one is talking about how slow the vaccine rollout is going.

    Point in case two extreme opinions meant to derail. Can’t possibly hold both opinions.


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