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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #3092
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Really, so a pretend Level 5 . Everyone ignoring the rules, 90% of non essential retailers open as normal. Great
    MeHole is some man .

    Some pretend level five for all those who will lose jobs thanks to restrictions

    Some pretend level five for those who can't travel both within and outside their counties to see friends, family, relations, partners etc for at least a month and prob more

    For instance my aunt has had 8 days December 18th - 26th where she could visit her mother in Cork since September 18th when Dublin went into level three

    This level 5 won't be a pretend lockdown for her in case she could bring COVID back to nana

    Difficult choice for her but the right one


  • #3093
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Really? Which part did you think was right? Also Is 4 weeks enough this time around given they were so cont convinced last time around.

    The part where he said that NPHET had changed their advice from Level 2 on Thursday to Level 5 on Sunday. That would have been a huge shock to the country who had no warning it was coming.

    The fact that NPHET couldn’t answer some of the questions they asked about what would happen next. That indicates a recommendation that wasn’t thought through. If we’re all being honest, it all looked like Tony Holohan came back to work and decided he wanted level 5 come hell or high water. That undermines NPHET’s credibility.

    As for the 4 weeks, I think the government have been careful to say today that it’s “at least 4 weeks”. So it may not be enough.


  • #3094
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,415 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    No one wants schools shuts or level5 but what other choice is there?

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • #3095
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    lawred2 wrote: »
    What on earth is actually even going on there? Seems like a collection of adults and kids!?

    They are waiting for the ninth wave.. :D


  • #3096
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    I know we talk a lot about statistics on here a lot. The problem with really big numbers is there are some seriously horrific outcomes for some people. AKA statistics.

    https://twitter.com/LouiseCrowley2/status/1344346891908165633?s=20

    Anyone else find it strange that she was tweeting away about all sorts of topics while in hospital such was the severity of her illness?

    Not suggesting she is lying or anything but couldn't imagine having the energy or interest in tweeting while suffering and on oxygen.


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  • #3097
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    https://twitter.com/skarlamangla/status/1344388444353515520


  • #3098
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    wadacrack wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/skarlamangla/status/1344388444353515520

    Oh dear.


  • #3099
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    Anyone else find it strange that she was tweeting away about all sorts of topics while in hospital such was the severity of her illness?

    Not suggesting she is lying or anything but couldn't imagine having the energy or interest in tweeting while suffering and on oxygen.

    Depends on what her oxygen levels were. Hospital days are long and if she is eating she can tweet.


  • #3100
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,082 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Busi_Girl08 wrote: »
    My housemate told me earlier today he's having 2 mates over to the house tomorrow for nye. When I mentioned to him about the new rules (oh sorry, *guidelines*), he said "well we have it planned already and there are new guidelines every day..."

    Meanwhile my fiance and I decided it best to cancel the quiet few drinks and a movie we had planned at his place (he lives with his parents) to ring in our first new year since we got engaged.

    Grand scheme of things it's just a night, but still, fcuk Covid.:mad::(

    Congratulations on the engagement

    Your housemate is a bellend, it's these muppets that are rising cases keeping lockdown level 5, can we all just follow the rules for a few weeks, keep everyone safe and alive, stay at home alone
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #3101
    coastwatch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭coastwatch


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    This has aged well......
    What's the strategy now.

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1313231967400402946?s=20

    Now that we've had a well deserved and much needed "meaningful Christmas", it was clearly going to be on "covid credit" , so no surprise to anyone, now we start paying for it with high level restrictions for 4-6 weeks, maybe longer.


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  • #3102
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,891 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    A simplified test and trace strategy on it's own with this type of virus with high and rapid transmission was never going to work.

    The below summary is from a paper that was uploaded to the WHO Institutional Repository for Information Sharing , puts it well and uses an excellent 'Snakes and Ladders' analogy. The system should be seen as preventative measure, to halt spread before it overwhelms health systems. It's time-dependent, once cases are out of control, the system buckles.

    "In order to ease lockdown restrictions and prevent a
    second wave of infections, countries must be able to find, test, trace,Isolate and support new COVID-19 cases. The simplicity of the ‘test, trace, isolate’ mantra dramatically understates the multitude of time-dependent processes that must occur seamlessly for the strategy to work effectively. We reconceptualise the way out of lockdown as a Snakes and Ladders boardgame. To succeed, countries must ensure that people with COVID-19 progress through the board as quickly as
    possible by putting in place measures that enhance their public health capacity (i.e. landing on ladders) and prevent setbacks caused by having insufficient capacity (i.e. avoiding snakes).'

    Link to PDF here: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/336292/Eurohealth-26-2-34-39-eng.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjVm7TMhPbtAhXBrHEKHXMtCFIQFjACegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw2XLu1ANb7Bwy8vcT8Edpib

    snakes-and-ladders-final-702x1024.png

    Excellent ;)

    Going to print this one off for posterity!


  • #3103
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Still on about Matt fvcking Damon on the RTE news. Just when day couldn't get worse.


  • #3104
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Just calling people liars isn't an argument. With the measures they took its highly probable they stopped uncontrollable spread as many Western nations have failed to do.

    I have no interest in an argument, you believe the Chinese fair play you are definitely in a very small minority in your beliefs.


  • #3105
    jammiedodgers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭jammiedodgers


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Still on about Matt fvcking Damon on the RTE news. Just when day couldn't get worse.

    Such a cringefest


  • #3106
    jams100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭jams100


    Where do these restrictions end?
    What if the virus mutates and the vaccine become ineffective? (I know its highly unlikely). How long do people think we can go on like this? Another 6 months, 12 months? I have the feeling some people would do this forever...
    Personally I feel I have a very low quality of life right now and I know, i know people are dying...I'm sure I'm not the only one feeling like this


  • #3107
    lukas8888
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    awec wrote: »
    :D

    There is no way you believe it's possible that we've had more cases than China.

    Your wrong, I can bet you he believes it.


  • #3108
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Icantthinkof1 wrote: »
    I rang our GP about our son as he had an ongoing headache and was complaining of pains in his stomach. GP said this can be possible signs of Covid- 1st I had heard of these being symptoms of Covid
    Completely agree they need to educate the public with the list of different symptoms as not everyone gets a cough/ temp/ difficulty breathing

    I was going to reply that headache was always a symptom of covid but I went to check the HSE website and they don't really care on updating their website to actually tell people this.


  • #3109
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    darem93 wrote: »
    My friend got a notification from the app to say she was a close contact. She rang up to get a test and really struggled to get anywhere. So she rang back and lied about having symptoms, finally got the test and it came back positive!

    Why is it so hard to actually get a test in the South? All my friends in the North just book it online no questions asked and they have it the next day. Whereas it seems to be so complicated here in the South just to secure one. Like I understand capacity issues but this was even the case back in August when I tried to get a test last time.

    From watching HSE conference today they have instituted process where people who get identified as close contact then get texted a link which allows person to book their own test. If the person doesn't book test themselves within certain timeframe, contact tracers will then follow up by phoning them and book test for them.


  • #3110
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    In case this is relevant for anyone here

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1344368858472345600


  • #3111
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    The science has proven over and over and over again that this.does.not.work.

    Economic lockdowns while schools open, borders open, powderpuff 'enforcement' destroy people's lives, destroy mental health, destroy society but do nothing to successfully eliminate the majority of the virus spread. They ensure that at most you get 1-2 weeks temporary partial reprieve before you are back in economic lockdown again.

    Yet so many people seem ok with this and are obeying their masters.

    I am beyond convinced that if tomorrow Tony and Meehoe told everyone that the cure for Covid-19 was to lick their arseholes, the majority would do it no questions asked as well.


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  • #3112
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Still on about Matt fvcking Damon on the RTE news. Just when day couldn't get worse.

    unbelievably cringe - I had to "pause" it when it came on then fast forward over it. What a shower of idiots we come across as, desperate to be liked , desperate to have a celebrity amongst us, desperate for Matt Damon to say Ireland is lovely. Jeez - at the time I was embarassed, I'm double embarassed tonight seeing that clip on the news!

    Its like we have some kind of inferiority complex and need to be liked :o


  • #3113
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    The_Brood wrote: »
    The science has proven over and over and over again that this.does.not.work.

    Economic lockdowns while schools open, borders open, powderpuff 'enforcement' destroy people's lives, destroy mental health, destroy society but do nothing to successfully eliminate the majority of the virus spread. They ensure that at most you get 1-2 weeks temporary partial reprieve before you are back in economic lockdown again.

    Yet so many people seem ok with this and are obeying their masters.

    I am beyond convinced that if tomorrow Tony and Meehoe told everyone that the cure for Covid-19 was to lick their arseholes, the majority would do it no questions asked as well.

    What science?


  • #3114
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Deleted User wrote: »
    unbelievably cringe - I had to "pause" it when it came on then fast forward over it. What a shower of idiots we come across as, desperate to be liked , desperate to have a celebrity amongst us, desperate for Matt Damon to say Ireland is lovely. Jeez - at the time I was embarassed, I'm double embarassed tonight seeing that clip on the news! Its like we have some kind of inferiority complex and need to be liked :o

    Is he coming back to lockdown with us?

    He founded Dalkey y'know


  • #3115
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,281 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Deleted User wrote: »
    unbelievably cringe - I had to "pause" it when it came on then fast forward over it. What a shower of idiots we come across as, desperate to be liked , desperate to have a celebrity amongst us, desperate for Matt Damon to say Ireland is lovely. Jeez - at the time I was embarassed, I'm double embarassed tonight seeing that clip on the news!

    Its like we have some kind of inferiority complex and need to be liked :o

    Wait till the Joe Biden stuff starts


  • #3116
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    The_Brood wrote: »
    The science has proven over and over and over again that this.does.not.work.

    Economic lockdowns while schools open, borders open, powderpuff 'enforcement' destroy people's lives, destroy mental health, destroy society but do nothing to successfully eliminate the majority of the virus spread. They ensure that at most you get 1-2 weeks temporary partial reprieve before you are back in economic lockdown again.

    Yet so many people seem ok with this and are obeying their masters.

    I am beyond convinced that if tomorrow Tony and Meehoe told everyone that the cure for Covid-19 was to lick their arseholes, the majority would do it no questions asked as well.

    Science in licking assholes? Right. Ok Gemma.


  • #3117
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,614 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Is the Astrazeneca one the one that also needs to be frozen in sub zero temps?


  • #3118
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Is the Astrazeneca one the one that also needs to be frozen in sub zero temps?

    Pfizer vaccine has to be stored at -70 degrees AstraZeneca at 2-8 degrees. Almost like storing milk in your fridge.


  • #3119
    oldtimeyfella
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭oldtimeyfella


    The_Brood wrote: »
    The science has proven over and over and over again that this.does.not.work.

    Economic lockdowns while schools open, borders open, powderpuff 'enforcement' destroy people's lives, destroy mental health, destroy society but do nothing to successfully eliminate the majority of the virus spread. They ensure that at most you get 1-2 weeks temporary partial reprieve before you are back in economic lockdown again.

    Yet so many people seem ok with this and are obeying their masters.

    I am beyond convinced that if tomorrow Tony and Meehoe told everyone that the cure for Covid-19 was to lick their arseholes, the majority would do it no questions asked as well.


    "The science"?


    People on twitter and Facebook aren't giving you sound scientific advice.



    Expert upon expert in pandemdics and infectious diseases providing guidelines and information to every government in the world but some lad on the internet knows better because he's scared and wants things to go back to normal so he can go to the pub or head of on a ****ty package holiday to Santa Del Bollocks.


  • #3120
    coastwatch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭coastwatch


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Is the Astrazeneca one the one that also needs to be frozen in sub zero temps?

    No, it just needs "normal" refrigeration, so much easier for mass vaccinations, using GPs and pharmacies.


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  • #3121
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Is the Astrazeneca one the one that also needs to be frozen in sub zero temps?

    Nope. Fridge temperatures 2-8 degrees which is why it's a game changer versus the specialist requirements of the Pfizer one.


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