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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,025 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Construction remains open? Nuts, if they want to do a lockdown, that's first to go. This isn't a lockdown really.

    Yeah that’s crazy alright.
    Lots of northern builders around builders doing a lot of inter county travel working in close confines to each other.
    Not great for stopping spread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Sconsey wrote: »
    By ignoring the guidance from the actual experts, you are not exempt. Internet hard-men like yourself looking for attention, making up stories do nothing really but make you look pathetic.

    Actually, with a post like that, you're the Internet hardman around here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Essential retail list, click and collect available. Many will be able to operate

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1344346931250819075?s=19

    As I am sure people will be asking...

    Retailers with mixed retail offering which have discrete spaces for essential and non-essential retail should make arrangements for the separation of relevant areas.

    1. Outlets selling food or beverages on a takeaway basis, or newspapers, whether on a retail or wholesale basis and whether in a non-specialised or specialised outlet.

    2. Markets that, wholly or principally, offer food for sale.

    3. Outlets selling products necessary for the essential upkeep and functioning of places of residence and businesses, whether on a retail or wholesale basis.

    4. Pharmacies, chemists and retailers or wholesalers providing pharmaceuticals or pharmaceutical or dispensing services, whether on a retail or wholesale basis.

    5. Outlets selling health, medical or orthopaedic goods in a specialised outlet, whether on a retail or wholesale basis.

    6. Fuel service stations and heating fuel providers.

    7. Outlets selling essential items for the health and welfare of animals (including animal feed and veterinary medicinal products, pet food, animal bedding and animal supplies), whether on a retail or wholesale basis.

    8. Laundries and drycleaners.

    9. Banks, post offices and credit unions.

    10. Outlets selling safety supplies (including work-wear apparel, footwear and personal protective equipment), whether on a retail or wholesale basis.

    11. Hardware outlets, builders’ merchants and outlets that provide, whether on a retail or wholesale basis:

    hardware products necessary for home and business maintenance or construction and development
    sanitation and farm equipment
    or
    supplies and tools essential for farming or agriculture purposes

    12. Outlets providing for the repair and maintenance of mechanically propelled vehicles or bicycles and any related facilities (including tyre sales and repairs).

    13. The following outlets, insofar as they offer services on an emergency basis only:

    outlets providing hearing test services or selling hearing aids and appliances
    outlets selling office products and services for businesses or for relevant persons working from their respective places of residence, whether on a retail or wholesale basis
    outlets providing electrical, information and communications technology and telephone sales, repair and maintenance services for places of residence and businesses

    14. Any other retail outlet that operates an online or other remote system of ordering goods for purposes of collection at the retail outlet.

    15. Outlets selling food or beverages whether on a retail or wholesale basis and whether in a non-specialised or specialised outlet:

    insofar as they sell food or beverages on a takeaway basis or for consumption off the premises
    insofar as they are staff canteens operating for the exclusive use of persons working in, or at, a particular premises
    or
    hotels or similar accommodation services referred to in subparagraphs (a) to (d) of paragraph 8 of Part 2, insofar as they sell food or beverages for consumption on the premises in accordance with subparagraphs (a) to (d) of paragraph 8 of that Part

    16. Optician and optometrist outlets. Any retail parts of premises should not be open to general public for browsing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Antares35 wrote: »
    Yeah well if they could leave out the illegal parking, dumping etc that would also be fine. And, you can go outside without going to the mountains? Just a thought.
    You've obviously got some sort of thing about people heading for a hike, so I'll leave it there - you are not engaging on the facts, and just furthering whatever agenda you have. "Illegal parking and dumping" ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Is the beach carpark empty?
    Is the petrol station empty?
    Is the AA van for when you breakdown empty?

    You are only supposed to be leaving your house for essential reasons, the 5k for exercise is an exception to allow people about going stir crazy. Why take the piss and travel beyond it?

    What if the carpark is empty?

    What if the car has a full tank of petrol?

    What if the car doesn't breakdown?

    Where is the risk then?

    What you call taking the piss others call maintaining their sanity.

    And if the car did breakdown just throw on a mask and keep your distance from AA employee.

    It's not rocket science at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


    I'm guessing there won't be a huge increase in garda presence to 'enforce' the new restrictions, like with the previous few times there were more stringent rules put in place.

    Non-enforcement makes this whole thing literally a useless endeavour to those of us who actually adhere to the restrictions, while the very visible minority who are flouting them and causing all this spread go unpunished (except the fate of those who catch and spread covid to loved ones, which is obviously a terrible outcome).

    It's going to be a frustrating month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,474 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    lukas8888 wrote: »
    Our numbers are bad and going to get a lot worse,but take a look at some of our European neighbours,will make your eyes water.
    14 day rate per 100K population.Ireland 272
    UK 720. Denmark 793. Sweden 815. Netherlands 906.
    Slovenia 913.Lithuania 1336.Liechtenstein 1506.

    And yet some still believe that this is all in Holohans head.

    No wonder the age profiles of the latest infected are what they are, too many selfish, ignorant kids. Both they are their parents deserve a kick up the arse and fines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    hmmm wrote: »
    You've obviously got some sort of thing about people heading for a hike, so I'll leave it there - you are not engaging on the facts, and just furthering whatever agenda you have.

    No, I've some sort of thing about people breaking the 5km restriction so they can travel to beauty spots, park illegally and block up roads and create a hazard for other road users and for locals living and working in the area, and leave their rubbish behind. But of course if you condone that kind of behaviour then yes it's better to leave it there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Antares35 wrote: »
    And people wonder how the numbers are increasing.

    Hold on a minute! Don't patronise me!

    I have adhered to all restrictions from the moment this happened back in March! I have had no close contacts and never put myself in a position to contract the virus. Can I say the same for you? Going by some of your posts, I don't think so

    I am making the point if someone, like myself, who travels alone, who is never around anyone, goes for a walk along the sea, how the hell can they spread it or contract it when they have never came in contact with anyone?

    Think before you post! The fall off your high horse is a painful one

    As for the other three who "thanked" your post. Less said about Charlie's Angels, the better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭Sam Hain


    Yeah, I can walk 5km down the side of a main road.
    Great fun.

    Woe is me, every post.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭Thespoofer


    All the workers in close proximity. Offices with estimators and planners remain open. Admin staff. How can that stop the spread?

    I don't have exact figures but when they left construction workers back after first lockdown the rates didn't rise greatly in construction.
    A great deal of construction takes place outdoors also.
    I see your point about stopping the spread but saying it should be first to go, I'm not so sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,474 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    What if the carpark is empty?

    What if the car has a full tank of petrol?

    What if the car doesn't breakdown?

    Where is the risk then?

    What you call taking the piss others call maintaining their sanity.

    And if the car did breakdown just throw on a mask and keep your distance from AA employee.

    It's not rocket science at all.
    If nothing goes wrong and the beach is indeed empty then it's fine, but unless you are omnipotent you can't control any of the things I mentioned, so why risk it?

    Who do you think the restrictions apply to if not to you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭Allinall


    What's the problem if you go on your own, who will you infect?

    What about all the hundreds of other people that go on their own?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭FrStone


    Scoondal wrote: »
    And if you travel 10kms from your house and meet no-one what's the problem? I have a hike planned for 1 January, 80kms from my house. How am I spreading covid ?

    You're not spreading it. Enjoy your hike, don't waste your time listening to the busy bodies here. Those of us who don't want to abide by non sensical restrictions won't/


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭oldtimeyfella


    What if the carpark is empty?

    What if the car has a full tank of petrol?

    What if the car doesn't breakdown?

    Where is the risk then?

    "The rules shouldn't apply to me for the following reasons........"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,474 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Hold on a minute! Don't patronise me!

    I have adhered to all restrictions from the moment this happened back in March! I have had no close contacts and never put myself in a position to contract the virus. Can I say the same for you? Going by some of your posts, I don't think so

    I am making the point if someone, like myself, who travels alone, who is never around anyone, goes for a walk along the sea, how the hell can they spread it or contract it when they have never came in contact with anyone?

    Think before you post! The fall off your high horse is a painful one
    Think before you do anything, who do the restrictions apply to if not you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Sam Hain wrote: »
    Woe is me, every post.

    Not really.
    I already said I'm not sticking to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Hold on a minute! Don't patronise me!

    I have adhered to all restrictions from the moment this happened back in March! I have had no close contacts and never put myself in a position to contract the virus.

    I am making the point if someone, like myself, who travels alone, who is never around anyone, goes for a walk along the sea, how the hell can the spread it or contract it when they have never came in contact with anyone?

    Think before you post! The fall off your high horse is a painful one

    Haven't you heard you're not supposed to go 5km from your house even if it is to go outside on your own where there is no possible way you can get the virus or pass it on to anyone else.

    Apparently common sense doesn't exist during a pandemic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Antares35 wrote: »
    No, I've some sort of thing about people breaking the 5km restriction so they can travel to beauty spots, park illegally and block up roads and create a hazard for other road users and for locals living and working in the area, and leave their rubbish behind. But of course if you condone that kind of behaviour then yes it's better to leave it there.
    Lobby your TD to keep the restrictions in place so you can keep the townies out of your rural idyll.

    Just another example of pure selfishness, except this time wrapped in a fake concern for public health.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Tpcl20 wrote: »
    I'm guessing there won't be a huge increase in garda presence to 'enforce' the new restrictions, like with the previous few times there were more stringent rules put in place.

    Non-enforcement makes this whole thing literally a useless endeavour to those of us who actually adhere to the restrictions, while the very visible minority who are flouting them and causing all this spread go unpunished (except the fate of those who catch and spread covid to loved ones, which is obviously a terrible outcome).

    It's going to be a frustrating month.
    Well there's really nowhere to go and people are more likely to be ignoring guidance inside their own houses. The real unknown here is just how much fatigue is now in the population.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Hold on a minute! Don't patronise me!

    I have adhered to all restrictions from the moment this happened back in March! I have had no close contacts and never put myself in a position to contract the virus. Can I say the same for you? Going by some of your posts, I don't think so

    I am making the point if someone, like myself, who travels alone, who is never around anyone, goes for a walk along the sea, how the hell can they spread it or contract it when they have never came in contact with anyone?

    Think before you post! The fall off your high horse is a painful one
    Another high horse reference. Does that ever get old.

    I know a walk on a deserted or quiet beach is not high risk. My point though is that during lockdown, these places tend to be frequented by a much higher number of people, bringing with it it's own hazards. Nobody is suggesting that anyone stays holed up inside. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭Sam Hain


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Actually, with a post like that, you're the Internet hardman around here.

    But who has the bigger Dad?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,052 ✭✭✭gifted


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Hold on a minute! Don't patronise me!

    I have adhered to all restrictions from the moment this happened back in March! I have had no close contacts and never put myself in a position to contract the virus. Can I say the same for you? Going by some of your posts, I don't think so

    I am making the point if someone, like myself, who travels alone, who is never around anyone, goes for a walk along the sea, how the hell can the spread it or contract it when they have never came in contact with anyone?

    Think before you post! The fall off your high horse is a painful one

    Because someone else could see you having a walk and decide that they will go for a walk as well

    Because you could have an accident and require help thereby potentially putting other people at risk

    It's nothing personal but why can't people do what the government ask you to do. I don't like these new restrictions but I'm going to abide by them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,282 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Yeah, I can walk 5km down the side of a main road.
    Great fun.

    Well just f*cking go to the mountains or beach or whatever every day.
    Many of us will try to stick to the guidelines, it will lead to a reduction in numbers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    JeffKenna wrote: »
    But the restrictions have to apply to everyone surely? What makes you so important that they don't apply to you?

    I would think the argument usually put forth are my needs are more important than yours. Usually then a vague reference to mental health. Not sure though as that was based on post waves 1 and 2 it may have been updated by the PR firm.

    for example,
    "I need to go to Spain for a holiday because it's been a tough year and It'll be good for my mental health"

    or

    "I need to go for drinks with the lads and watch the match in a pub because it's been a really tough year and we need a break mentally"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    "The rules shouldn't apply to me for the following reasons........"

    Have you ever heard of a thing called common sense?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    hmmm wrote: »
    Lobby your TD to keep the restrictions in place so you can keep the townies out of your rural idyll.

    Just another example of pure selfishness, except this time wrapped in a fake concern for public health.

    Rubbish. Selfishness is the behaviour I have mentioned. Or do you think it's acceptable?
    It's nothing to do with a townie city divide though that's a very predictable defence you've jumped to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    FrStone wrote: »
    You're not spreading it. Enjoy your hike, don't waste your time listening to the busy bodies here. Those of us who don't want to abide by non sensical restrictions won't/

    And we wonder why kids think it is ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭Sam Hain


    Not really.
    I already said I'm not sticking to it.

    You rebel you. What do you really be doing in that forest?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭walshtipp


    Is the 5km travel limit coming in tonight or tomorrow night?


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