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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #2672
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    NPHETs job is to advise the government. They advised that, based on their models, 6 weeks of lockdown would get us to 50 - 100 cases a day and cases would start rising again in mid January.

    Their advice was wrong. Hopefully they can provide better advise next time.


  • #2673
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,384 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I cant but help thinking that the government manipulate the numbers for announcement days.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #2674
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Course you don't, you and lots of others didn't get the big deal. Now we are screwed again.

    Gas thing is youll be on here tomorrow or whenever talking about people's mental health or job losses totally oblivious or having any self awareness people like yourself are part of the problem with your few nights out.

    After 10 months of this if it hasn't clicked by now it never will.

    I didn't break any guidelines when I went out though.


  • #2675
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    niallo27 wrote: »
    But we were locked down for 6 weeks, if we hadn't opened up it would have meant lockdown with no social outlets for 9-12 weeks.

    Who mentioned no social outlets though? There was a choice given by NPHET between opening up hospitality or increasing household visits. Reality is household visits can't be controlled so opening up hospitality led to both happening.


  • #2676
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    rob316 wrote: »
    Is it the same rules around retail as we had in November? i.e click and collect is allowed

    I'd imagine so but will need to wait for the announcement

    Seems like the last lockdown


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  • #2677
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Hopefully the government open the schools over Easter to make up for the lost time.


  • #2678
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Rocco Tart Cheek wrote: »
    The government diverged from NPHET advice was that my fault?

    We all have to do the best we can - if you went out to have a pretend substantial
    meal so you could quaff alcohol with people not in your household then you are falling short of best practice during a viral pandemic.

    Your defence is a bit "I was only following orders"


  • #2679
    oldtimeyfella
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭oldtimeyfella


    Rocco Tart Cheek wrote: »
    who opened businesses again in December? was it your neighbour or the Government? Are we still pretending the country is plagued with project X house parties?


    Business owners opened businesses again.


  • #2680
    46 Long
    Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭46 Long


    titan18 wrote: »
    Some people took the fair piss with it tbf. A few nights out would be one thing, I've had people im friends with in Instagram out every night of the week with a different set of people and at a different bar.

    Imo, the ones who went out for a few meals/drinks over the few weeks is grand, but some took it as a I haven't been out in ages, let's go out every night before they lock down again

    This is what happens when you subject a country to nine months of sustained lockdowns with very little reprieve. People are human and for the most part have simply had enough of this charade.

    We could have avoided all of this had we went with measured, sustainable measures from the start and stuck with them.

    The latest knee-jerk Lockdown 3 is like an obese person deluding themselves that this time things will be different, the crash diet will somehow work and they won't put all the weight (and more) back on the minute they come off it.


  • #2681
    forumdedum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭forumdedum


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    They won't, sure read some of the posts on here over the last few weeks.

    Can't fix stupid


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  • #2682
    Steve012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Steve012


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Why are they not flat out giving the vaccine to the most vulnerable?

    They don't have enough vaccines in the country as far as I know


  • #2683
    Will Yam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Will Yam


    Pcgamer wrote: »
    Its general secretary John Boyle wrote to Minister for Education Norma Foley last night saying nearly 700 children of primary school age tested positive for the virus in the fortnight before schools closed for Christmas.


    But people are convinced schools are not an issue. Mind boggles.

    Thats only a small percentage of schools tested. Wonder how many siblings and parents passed it on from the schools from other people.

    Schools are dangerous, close them down.

    Where did Boyle access that data?


  • #2684
    shocksy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭shocksy


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Woodies sell bulbs, they’re essential, they sell plumbing supplies also essential, you know stuff wears out and people don’t tend to have an extensive supply of essential items just waiting at home. What may not be essential to you or needed by you doesn’t apply to everyone else just because you think it should

    Every supermarket also sells bulbs, so your argument there is null and void.

    As for parts, well their local tradesman can sort them out.

    These massive stores don't need to be open for ''light bulbs''.

    They could allow proper supply stores for parts etc to be opened, not woodies or similar covid spreading places. Just cause you didn't bother to prepare that's not the rest of the publics fault. Tough sh!t on you pal


  • #2685
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Rocco Tart Cheek wrote: »
    The government diverged from NPHET advice was that my fault?

    Nphet have only one remit. Response to COVID. The government has a whole raft of other considerations to contend with.


  • #2686
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Any comment from Tony and Nphet on schools.


  • #2687
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Pcgamer wrote: »
    Its general secretary John Boyle wrote to Minister for Education Norma Foley last night saying nearly 700 children of primary school age tested positive for the virus in the fortnight before schools closed for Christmas.


    But people are convinced schools are not an issue. Mind boggles.

    Thats only a small percentage of schools tested. Wonder how many siblings and parents passed it on from the schools from other people.

    Schools are dangerous, close them down.

    Noone ever said schools aren't an issue.


  • #2688
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Deleted User wrote: »
    NPHETs job is to advise the government. They advised that, based on their models, 6 weeks of lockdown would get us to 50 - 100 cases a day and cases would start rising again in mid January.

    Their advice was wrong. Hopefully they can provide better advise next time.

    The government ignored parts of the advice to keep people like you happier.


  • #2689
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    shocksy wrote: »
    Every supermarket also sells bulbs, so your argument there is null and void.

    As for parts, well their local tradesman can sort them out.

    These massive stores don't need to be open for ''light bulbs''.

    They could allow proper supply stores for parts etc to be opened, not woodies or similar covid spreading places. Just cause you didn't bother to prepare that's not the rest of the publics fault. Tough sh!t on you pal

    Ah will you stop, you have to give people something to do. **** all cases from retail.


  • #2690
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    shocksy wrote: »
    Every supermarket also sells bulbs, so your argument there is null and void.

    As for parts, well their local tradesman can sort them out.

    These massive stores don't need to be open for ''light bulbs''.

    They could allow proper supply stores for parts etc to be opened, not woodies or similar covid spreading places. Just cause you didn't bother to prepare that's not the rest of the publics fault. Tough sh!t on you pal

    I can see by your posting style further engagement with you is a waste of time. Have a good evening.


  • #2691
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Childcare facilities to remain open
    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1344342280925286406?s=19


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  • #2692
    The Nal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,832 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Who mentioned no social outlets though? There was a choice given by NPHET between opening up hospitality or increasing household visits. Reality is household visits can't be controlled so opening up hospitality led to both happening.

    They havent tried closing the pubs and leaving the restaurants open. Restaurants are the easiest to control of the 3.


  • #2693
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Woodies sell bulbs, they’re essential, they sell plumbing supplies also essential, you know stuff wears out and people don’t tend to have an extensive supply of essential items just waiting at home. What may not be essential to you or needed by you doesn’t apply to everyone else just because you think it should

    Centra sells bulbs as do Lidl. You'll be fine.


  • #2694
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Any comment from Tony and Nphet on schools.
    That's a government call - nothing to do with them.


  • #2695
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,190 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    RTE seem to have the first team back on the news, they had the reserves on since Christmas Day.


  • #2696
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    46 Long wrote: »
    This is what happens when you subject a country to nine months of sustained lockdowns with very little reprieve. People are human and for the most part have simply had enough of this charade.

    We could have avoided all of this had we went with measured, sustainable measures from the start and stuck with them.

    The latest knee-jerk Lockdown 3 is like an obese person deluding themselves that this time things will be different, the crash diet will somehow work and they won't put all the weight (and more) back on the minute they come off it.

    There's no country that's avoided what we're going through in all of Europe and pretty much the entire world. I've a pain in my hole with some people thinking that there was some other alternative course of action that would have made this go away.

    The government are managing a problem with no right answer. Until the vaccine is widely distributed they are just choosing between sh!t options and worse ones. They've undoubtedly made mistakes, that'll happen when you're reacting to a once in a century pandemic, but they've done pretty well on the whole.


  • #2697
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    46 Long wrote: »
    This is what happens when you subject a country to nine months of sustained lockdowns with very little reprieve. People are human and for the most part have simply had enough of this charade.

    We could have avoided all of this had we went with measured, sustainable measures from the start and stuck with them.

    The latest knee-jerk Lockdown 3 is like an obese person deluding themselves that this time things will be different, the crash diet will somehow work and they won't put all the weight (and more) back on the minute they come off it.

    Most people didn't do that though. Those people are just selfish (insert curse word of your choice). The ones who did are the ones who helped increase the spread imo.


  • #2698
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,190 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    MM going to address the nation now...
    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1344343543737970695


  • #2699
    Busi_Girl08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,522 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    Address starting now on rte.


  • #2700
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    RTE seem to have the first team back on the news, they had the reserves on since Christmas Day.

    Hour long lock-down special.


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  • #2701
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,109 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    RTE seem to have the first team back on the news, they had the reserves on since Christmas Day.

    Today's the standard for back after Christmas.


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