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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #2642
    thelad95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    Danzy wrote: »
    Are DIY shops still going to be open as essential.

    DIY could easily operate as a click and collect type service, also not all DIY is essential, would be far better practice (and keep people in jobs) if plumbers were permitted to operate emergency services in the case of burst pipes etc.

    I would wager that 90% of stuff sold in say Woodie's is not essential


  • #2643
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Does he mean with schools that this could very well be extended past 11th yeah?

    Yup

    Once you close schools it's going to be difficult to get them open again esp in the short term


  • #2644
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Does he mean with schools that this could very well be extended past 11th yeah?

    Guess so. His point is that it's likely that covid will be higher that week than now. Have to agree.

    Also think that they are waiting for data on the susceptibility of kids spreading the newer variants.


  • #2645
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I thought I read earlier of 2.800 positives. Was I dreaming, or should I just put the wine back in the fridge.


  • #2646
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    We can have all the lockdowns we want but it won’t stop spread in nursing homes and hospitals.

    The government/NPHET/HSE have failed miserably there and caused most of the deaths.

    Now it’s time to scapegoat hospitality and retail yet again


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  • #2647
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


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  • #2648
    UrbanFret
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Even with the restrictions pre Christmas the boarder counties just never got it down to low levels at all, bearing fruit again

    Yes the did. Border counties are no better or worse than anywhere else . Cavan had it down to less than 5 a day, as soon as restrictions eased away she goes again. That's the same everywhere. All lockdown achieved took about 3 weeks to cancel out. That's the nature of the beast. We're merely buying time until vaccination puts an end to it.


  • #2649
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,100 ✭✭✭prunudo


    thelad95 wrote: »
    DIY could easily operate as a click and collect type service, also not all DIY is essential, would be far better practice (and keep people in jobs) if plumbers were permitted to operate emergency services in the case of burst pipes etc.

    I would wager that 90% of stuff sold in say Woodie's is not essential

    Sure most of the time you come out with something extra you hadn't intended to buy as it is.


  • #2650
    Tpcl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


    niallo27 wrote: »
    We all knew there would be a lockdown in January, that's why people had a few nights out when they had the chance in December. I don't get the big deal.
    Clowns imo.

    Any of our socialising in the last nine months has been done in the garden at a safe distance. When cases have been increasing, we have stopped seeing people we know are going out to restaurants etc.

    Just because the government says something is allowed, it doesn't mean we should all do it. Personally I don't know how people deceive themselves; they can't all be wilfully ignorant and just pretend there's no pandemic on to justify doing normal things that we'd all like to feel entitled to do.

    I would feel like a dumb stupid prick if I let my guard down like that and got infected with covid and infected other people potentially just a few months before things start actually going back to normal. There would be nobody else to blame for my stupidity in that situation but me. Not the government for not imposing restrictions, not my friend that infected me, not the restaurant that didn't have enough safeguards in place. I made the choice to take the risk.

    I wouldn't take that risk though. I just can't fathom how so many thousands are throwing themselves and their loved ones into harms way with their actions.


  • #2651
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Rocco Tart Cheek wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/ciananbrennan/status/1344334158231953409

    Bang on.

    Ah yeah people are never to blame.

    It's all the gubberments fault.


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  • #2652
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,154 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    niallo27 wrote: »
    We all knew there would be a lockdown in January, that's why people had a few nights out when they had the chance in December. I don't get the big deal.

    This will likely go on past January and there is a difference in how severe it could have been. Not sure opening up for 3 weeks was worth being locked down for a minimum of 4 weeks especially for anyone who didn't get the benefit of the easing of restrictions. At least there's vaccines here now but will take months for them to be given out enough to make a significant difference.


  • #2653
    shocksy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭shocksy


    thelad95 wrote: »
    I would wager that 90% of stuff sold in say Woodie's is not essential

    100% spot on. Most of the crap in there is definitely non essential. However, by them being open, people will take it upon themselves to just go into these places for the sake of it and use it as part of a day out. I'm deadly serious on that comment too. We're in January for f***s sake, nothing in there is essential especially gardening items or other similar products. If people wanted to buy that stuff then they should have bought it all by now as even the dogs on the street knew a lockdown was coming in January. If people don't have their DIY stuff by now, then tough sh!t, they had plenty of time to get it in. Woodies and the likes need to be closed in this lockdown.


  • #2654
    How Soon Is Now
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,199 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    So let's round it off 100,000 cases in a population of nearly 5 million people.

    Could be worse I guess!


  • #2655
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Rocco Tart Cheek wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/ciananbrennan/status/1344334158231953409

    Bang on.
    None so loud as the self-promoting "I told you so" social media heroes shooting at easy targets. As always it's been about personal behaviour.


  • #2656
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tpcl20 wrote: »
    Clowns imo.

    Any of our socialising in the last nine months has been done in the garden at a safe distance. When cases have been increasing, we have stopped seeing people we know are going out to restaurants etc.

    Just because the government says something is allowed, it doesn't mean we should all do it. Personally I don't know how people deceive themselves; they can't all be wilfully ignorant and just pretend there's no pandemic on to justify doing normal things that we'd all like to feel entitled to do.

    I would feel like a dumb stupid prick if I let my guard down like that and got infected with covid and infected other people potentially just a few months before things start actually going back to normal. There would be nobody else to blame for my stupidity in that situation but me. Not the government for not imposing restrictions, not my friend that infected me, not the restaurant that didn't have enough safeguards in place. I made the choice to take the risk.

    I wouldn't take that risk though. I just can't fathom how so many thousands are throwing themselves and their loved ones into harms way with their actions.

    Ever heard of flu? In some recent years we’ve had hundreds in hospitals with flu.

    Did you accept the risk then?


  • #2657
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    niallo27 wrote: »
    We all knew there would be a lockdown in January, that's why people had a few nights out when they had the chance in December. I don't get the big deal.

    Course you don't, you and lots of others didn't get the big deal. Now we are screwed again.

    Gas thing is youll be on here tomorrow or whenever talking about people's mental health or job losses totally oblivious or having any self awareness people like yourself are part of the problem with your few nights out.

    After 10 months of this if it hasn't clicked by now it never will.


  • #2658
    Tork
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,617 ✭✭✭Tork


    Rocco Tart Cheek wrote: »
    who opened businesses again in December? was it your neighbour or the Government? Are we still pretending the country is plagued with project X house parties?

    The government doesn't spread covid, people do.


  • #2659
    theballz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭theballz


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Ever heard of flu? In some recent years we’ve had hundreds in hospitals with flu.

    Did you accept the risk then?

    I suppose the earth is flat aswell?


  • #2660
    Treseemme.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 124 ✭✭Treseemme.


    There must be an awful lot of spread from young people meeting up and going back to their families.

    TBH most of them don't give a sh1t and the families are indifferent


  • #2661
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Tork wrote: »
    The government doesn't spread covid, people do.

    Government policy assists


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  • #2662
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Course you don't, you and lots of others didn't get the big deal. Now we are screwed again.

    Gas thing is youll be on here tomorrow or whenever talking about people's mental health or job losses totally oblivious or having any self awareness people like yourself are part of the problem with your few nights out.

    After 10 months of this if it hasn't clicked by now it never will.

    Not going to get into a who's to blame etc etc debate but you do know that people were allowed to go out for a meal and a few drinks ?

    They weren't breaking any rules so you can't start blaming the people who followed guidelines by saying they were part of the problem.

    I went out twice for a meal and a few drinks, I was allowed to and followed the guidelines.. part of the problem?


  • #2663
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,100 ✭✭✭prunudo


    spookwoman wrote: »
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    Thank you for posting the graphics every day. Can I ask when Loughlinstown hospital had its outbreak last month, where would its cases have fallen into the info that you process. Is it lumped in with St. Vincents or do they not release that info in the same way as its a smaller hospital.


  • #2664
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    shocksy wrote: »


    100% spot on. Most of the crap in there is definitely non essential. However, by them being open, people will take it upon themselves to just go into these places for the sake of it and use it as part of a day out. I'm deadly serious on that comment too. We're in January for f***s sake, nothing in there is essential especially gardening items or other similar products. If people wanted to buy that stuff then they should have bought it all by now as even the dogs on the street knew a lockdown was coming in January. If people don't have their DIY stuff by now, then tough sh!t, they had plenty of time to get it in. Woodies and the likes need to be closed in this lockdown.

    Woodies sell bulbs, they’re essential, they sell plumbing supplies also essential, you know stuff wears out and people don’t tend to have an extensive supply of essential items just waiting at home. What may not be essential to you or needed by you doesn’t apply to everyone else just because you think it should


  • #2665
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,154 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Ah yeah people are never to blame.

    It's all the gubberments fault.

    They were warned against opening to extent they did by NPHET when cases were in 300 and cases were modeled as getting this high. Yes a minority have been reckless all along but that hasn't changed. What did was easing restrictions when cases were so high. Of course personal responsibility always exists but reality is cases wouldn't be so high if restrictions weren't eased as much.


  • #2666
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,190 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Why are they not flat out giving the vaccine to the most vulnerable?


  • #2667
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Eod100 wrote: »
    This will likely go on past January and there is a difference in how severe it could have been. Not sure opening up for 3 weeks was worth being locked down for a minimum of 4 weeks especially for anyone who didn't get the benefit of the easing of restrictions. At least there's vaccines here now but will take months for them to be given out enough to make a significant difference.

    But we were locked down for 6 weeks, if we hadn't opened up it would have meant lockdown with no social outlets for 9-12 weeks.


  • #2668
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,670 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Is it the same rules around retail as we had in November? i.e click and collect is allowed


  • #2669
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    Government policy assists
    Nowhere near as much as people with up to 30 close contacts.


  • #2670
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    rob316 wrote: »
    Is it the same rules around retail as we had in November? i.e click and collect is allowed
    Should be, check on retailer sites.


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  • #2671
    Pcgamer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭Pcgamer


    Its general secretary John Boyle wrote to Minister for Education Norma Foley last night saying nearly 700 children of primary school age tested positive for the virus in the fortnight before schools closed for Christmas.


    But people are convinced schools are not an issue. Mind boggles.

    Thats only a small percentage of schools tested. Wonder how many siblings and parents passed it on from the schools from other people.

    Schools are dangerous, close them down.


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