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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #2432
    ax530
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭ax530


    it is not nice to see that we in this situation but with relaxing of restrictions in December there was a lot of socialising amongst younger people.
    The new London strain I believe is transmitted easier as the time it was around people were mixing. There were some christmas 'parties' teams meeting up for lunch/dinner. If people had not been in contact with others it could not transmit.
    was a few weeks ago now we saw reports from NI saying 'that equivalent to 1600 cases here' their numbers still growing upwards.
    I think we are in good position to stop\reduce the increase now with restrictions which came into effect stephens day and presume further restictions which we will see today.
    Daily mail reporting UK are planning on 3 months between 1st&2nd vacc jab which is lot longer than the 3 weeks recommended presume this is so they will have greater number of people with some vaccine the story about US nurse may help them change that.


  • #2433
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Agree.
    Got a cold shiver reading this though .

    There are a heap of Doctors and Nurses, heading off to Australia in the coming weeks.

    They would have been gone before but flights were cancelled


  • #2434
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    I don't think the HSE could have been clearer in that briefing. Getting very real very quickly.

    Of course some would say he's being alarmist.........

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1344303257418674177?s=20

    It's disappointing that Micheal Martin has been very quiet. I figure we're on the way to another address the nation moment but in the meantime he should have been out there reiterating how serious this is.


  • #2435
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    wadacrack wrote: »
    This is very concerning. The new strain becoming dominate in Scotland.

    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1344312343237451781

    The London exodus we saw is likely a big reason behind that.


  • #2436
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,045 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    speckle wrote: »
    Not syre abiut 1000s but definetly 100s uo to a thousand.

    March seems like an age ago, so I may be misrembering, but I think back then testing was targeted. So if you turned up with symptoms you got tested. You had to display multiple symptoms to get a test.

    Which meant that anyone with no symptoms likely went completely undetected, and people with only one or two of the symptoms likely were undiagnosed and not counted.

    In mid March we were getting numbers ~800/900, I would say the real number was a multiple of this.


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  • #2437
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    marno21 wrote: »
    The London exodus we saw is likely a big reason behind that.

    The Brits and their invasions. Always the way


  • #2438
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,897 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Stheno wrote: »
    We've a weekly questionnaire we have to complete in work even though the vast majority of us are wfh

    One of the questions is if we have been in contact with a confirmed case.

    If anyone has to go to the office they complete it daily

    Yes. Proper order .
    Most people would have let their few enough contacts know by the timethey find out they are going for a test.
    I can understand younger age people not getting to grips with it , but 31 to 40 year olds , that is just plain negligent .


  • #2439
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    awec wrote: »
    March seems like an age ago, so I may be misrembering, but I think back then testing was targeted. So if you turned up with symptoms you got tested. You had to display multiple symptoms to get a test.

    Which meant that anyone with no symptoms likely went completely undetected, and people with only one or two of the symptoms likely were undiagnosed and counted.

    In mid March we were getting numbers ~800/900, I would say the real number was a multiple of this. By the end of March we were getting

    Probably why the two weeks turned into nearly 4 months


  • #2440
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    MOR316 wrote: »
    There are a heap of Doctors and Nurses, heading off to Australia in the coming weeks.

    They would have been gone before but flights were cancelled

    Are you deliberately stirring?


  • #2441
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Yes. Proper order .
    Most people would have let their few enough contacts know by the timethey find out they are going for a test.
    I can understand younger age people not getting to grips with it , but 31 to 40 year olds , that is just plain negligent .

    I literally had to pop into the office for 5 mins back in September and they were making sure my details and all were taken, just on the off chance something happened. So tbh, I'm not really sure where any negligence is happening as I haven't seen it anywhere


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  • #2442
    thelad95
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    It's disappointing that Micheal Martin has been very quiet. I figure we're on the way to another address the nation moment but in the meantime he should have been out there reiterating how serious this is.

    Few different media outlets reporting that he will do a live address tonight.


  • #2443
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Holy shoot almost 1000 deaths in the UK today from Covid.


  • #2444
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    speckle wrote: »
    Not sure about 1000s but definetly 100s up to a thousand.

    It probably was in thousands, look at the antibody test results from early Summer.

    Hundreds wouldn't have built up that figure.


  • #2445
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Are you deliberately stirring?

    Nope, just stating a fact.
    They would have been gone before Christmas under normal circumstances

    As far as I'm aware, this isn't a HSE meeting so not sure how I'm "stirring" anything. Just telling you a fact!


  • #2446
    ginoginelli
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭ginoginelli


    Scuid Mhór wrote: »
    I feel like we must be at some sort of watershed moment right now. The situation, regardless of how exhausted we are of it, is much, much graver now than it was in March and any lockdown we implement is at a significant disadvantage in terms of time when compared to our first proper lockdown which was implemented when we had 36 cases if I recall correctly. The government needs to act now. I feel that it would be insane to let the schools remain open.

    When Irish historians look back at this critical juncture, I wonder if they will speculate about the humane element that went into December. If it was any other month, we would have been in a proper lockdown much earlier. But because of Christmas and the need for some sense of humanity, it was decided to let people socialise against objective medical advice.

    I myself am currently waiting to hear back to find out if I am a close contact of someone. This is the most tangible my covid-19 experience has been and it’s not a great place to be in. Do what you can not to end up in my position - the anxiety is driving me up the walls. The vaccine is being distributed and there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I would be in favour of sacrificing the next few months completely so everyone on this island can get back to normality without having to worry too much about their own mortality.

    Stay safe. Don’t over speculate, don’t fret too much. It will get worse before it gets better.

    If they do close schools there needs to be strict enforcment on gathering and groups, or else the kids will just meet up in other unsafe settings, and it will be pointless.


  • #2447
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,897 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    speckle wrote: »
    I was thinking of the 41? doctors having to isolate... but that article answers my question... average is 6 contacts per person.. which is where I thought it woukd be over Xmas... why do they talk about 30 at the presser then.. detest scaremongering ... want facts... will have to listen back incase it got lost in translation here... by the way doctors, nurses etc socialise also in those age groups and a minority break the rules like everyone else. even though the should know better.
    Thanks the 6 per person has taken my stress levels down.

    Ha, you always have to have a pop at doctors and nurses . Low.
    Very few if any socialising, except maybe some need a large double after dealing with some people !


  • #2448
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    awec wrote: »
    March seems like an age ago, so I may be misrembering, but I think back then testing was targeted. So if you turned up with symptoms you got tested. You had to display multiple symptoms to get a test.

    Which meant that anyone with no symptoms likely went completely undetected, and people with only one or two of the symptoms likely were undiagnosed and counted.

    In mid March we were getting numbers ~800/900, I would say the real number was a multiple of this. By the end of March we were getting
    I thought you were talking about beginning of march... agree with your higher number for later into the month. Multiple 800/900 by between 5 and 10 is what I would think..


  • #2449
    Spanish Eyes
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    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Holy shoot almost 1000 deaths in the UK today from Covid.

    I know it's awful. But there doesn't seem to be much worry about things there right now despite the deaths. They are leading the world with the Oxford vax, so that's ok then.


  • #2450
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Month long inbound

    https://twitter.com/KevDoyle_Indo/status/1344319114131730434?s=19


  • #2451
    What Username Guidelines
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    Goldengirl wrote: »
    A neighbour told my son about it . He was raging as we have been all really strict and they have found it hard .

    It is psychologically very tough. Thankfully most of our circle of friends seem to have a similar level of seriousness in terms of their attitude, so we stick to zoom or a distant garden visit to say hello, but my wife has a few of friends who meet up frequently and aren't really taking things seriously at all. It's easy for me to say 'sure just don't meet up' but it's very hard when you're curtailing lots of things you enjoy for the greater good, while also being made feel like you're totally overreacting because her friends are like 'meh, who cares'.

    Similar story with neighbours a couple of doors down acting like nothing is happening since March. Our 5yo found it very tough to not see grandparents back in Lockdown 1.0 but the grandkids a couple of doors down were out playing in the front garden all day every day from March thru the summer.


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  • #2452
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    UK has given approval to the Oxford vaccine rollout commences Monday.


  • #2453
    Will Yam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Will Yam


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    No one is scaremongering.

    People are staying the facts as they are with virus spread

    Attempting to play it down is even less helpful

    There is a dilemma for the authorities here. There is a cohort in society who are quite cavalier about all this and need the risks spelt out in the starkest terms.

    On the other hand there are those who - broadly- follow guidelines, behave responsibly. For these, to consistently paint the bleakest picture might be counter productive.

    So how best to get balance in reporting? Very hard to know, but one can only assume that the bleakest picture approach is the better choice.


  • #2454
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Ha, you always have to have a pop at doctors and nurses . Low.
    Very few if any socialising, except maybe some need a large double after dealing with some people !

    You don't know that.
    A lot of my friends are Doctors and Nurses. They went out and had drinks with their friends over the summer and Autumn periods before the Level 5 came in back in October


  • #2455
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    awec wrote: »
    36 known cases. There was no real testing back then.

    If we had been able to test in March like we can now, we would likely have been getting thousands of cases every single day.

    We don't know how many cases were around in March, but it's looking like we'll pass the March peak of hospitalisations in early January if they continue at their current growth rate.
    That would suggest that the current outbreak could well be worse.


  • #2456
    William Faithful Deer
    Posts: 0 ✭ William Faithful Deer


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    I don't think the HSE could have been clearer in that briefing. Getting very real very quickly.

    Of course some would say he's being alarmist.........

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1344303257418674177?s=20

    I don't think that message has been delivered clear enough right on the evening before New Year's. At this point people will proceed with plans and "chance it".

    It's needs Mícheál Martin staring into the lense of the camera and speaking directly to the nation.


  • #2457
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Stheno wrote: »
    We've a weekly questionnaire we have to complete in work even though the vast majority of us are wfh

    One of the questions is if we have been in contact with a confirmed case.

    If anyone has to go to the office they complete it daily

    We've an in house covid tracker app. Add your workplace every day.

    We had a couple of confirmed cases in the UK office and as far as I know it came in handy for tracing of work colleagues etc.


  • #2458
    Will Yam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Will Yam


    ginoginelli wrote: »
    If they do close schools there needs to be strict enforcment on gathering and groups, or else the kids will just meet up in other unsafe settings, and it will be pointless.

    I understand that Dundrum shopping centre was mobbed with them yesterday. Queues to get into the clothes shops.


  • #2459
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Will Yam wrote: »
    I understand that Dundrum shopping centre was mobbed with them yesterday. Queues to get into the clothes shops.

    That's everywhere tbf


  • #2460
    Will Yam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Will Yam


    Kallie Future Marinade wrote: »
    I don't think that message has been delivered clear enough right on the evening before New Year's. At this point people will proceed with plans and "chance it".

    It's needs Mícheál Martin staring into the lense of the camera and speaking directly to the nation.

    Will they introduce a curfew from tomorrow evening for 48 hours?


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  • #2461
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Ha, you always have to have a pop at doctors and nurses . Low.
    Very few if any socialising, except maybe some need a large double after dealing with some people !

    I will let that very low insinuation of me go this once and not report it.... just not to spoil you special day.
    Anyone can look back at my posts and see how wrong what it is that you are saying.


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