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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #1952
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    3,418 total deaths in all Ireland (ROI and NI) but don't worry not a death sentence :rolleyes: not to mention the long term side effects, I can understand people are terrified and some selfish fcekers want to just carry on as normal, we need to embrace the new normal

    Unfortunately we are never going to change these peoples selfish minds.

    I'm alright Jack generation. It disgusts me.


  • #1953
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    3,418 total deaths in all Ireland (ROI and NI) but don't worry not a death sentence :rolleyes: not to mention the long term side effects, I can understand people are terrified and some selfish fcekers want to just carry on as normal, we need to embrace the new normal

    And over 150k that we know of, probably 350k to 400k realistically have got covid and have not died of it so no its not a death sentence.


  • #1954
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Unfortunately we are never going to change these peoples selfish minds.

    I'm alright Jack generation. It disgusts me.

    So you think it's a death sentence if you get it.


  • #1955
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    niallo27 wrote: »
    So you think it's a death sentence if you get it.

    It might be. Nobody can say for sure.


  • #1956
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    froog wrote: »
    it can/is deadly for plenty of vulnerable groups. surely you know that by now?

    Of course I know that, but do you think it's healthy for people to be terrified and worried sick of this disease.


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  • #1957
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,540 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Unfortunately we are never going to change these peoples selfish minds.

    I'm alright Jack generation. It disgusts me.

    Hardly, if people have different opinions than you it should not disgust you, some people may think that living a better quality shorter life is better, I don't necessarily agree but people are entitled to their opinions without being looked down at by you.


  • #1958
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    It might be. Nobody can say for sure.

    Well we can, otherwise there would be 100% death rate from it.


  • #1959
    FlubberJones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭FlubberJones


    With all this scaremongering and menaces from all avenues, I'm literally at the end of caring. I have to do what I have to do but thats it.... for no other reason. I have gone beyond giving a **** about other people.


  • #1960
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Well we can, otherwise there would be 100% death rate from it.

    We know 100% of people don't die from it.

    But you can't guarantee that a certain individual won't die from it.


  • #1961
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    blowitupref wrote: »
    An outbreak there?
    Yes. I was implying that there was an outbreak there but had based that purely on numbers as this rate of an increase in hospitalised Covid cases in a 48 hour period in Castlebar would have been otherwise unexpected.

    Mayo has a comparatively lower 14 day incidence rate of 129.5 per 100,000 population. For their catchment area and rate of hospitalisation for Covid, number was well off. Was expecting 8-14 and was surprised to see 30.

    Another poster pointed out that outbreak was already confirmed. Somehow missed that during the day.


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  • #1962
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    FlubberJones wrote: »
    With all this scaremongering and menaces from all avenues, I'm literally at the end of caring. I have to do what I have to do but thats it.... for no other reason. I have gone beyond giving a **** about other people.

    Yeah, that's a problem. A reasonable person would give a sh1t/fcuk (whatever word you used) about other people.


  • #1963
    William Faithful Deer
    Posts: 0 ✭ William Faithful Deer


    froog wrote: »
    it can/is deadly for plenty of vulnerable groups. surely you know that by now?

    They know but are clearly thinking through the lense of ME ME ME.

    My concern about catching this is not just passing it on, but the over burdening of the hospitals. A car crash/heart attack scenario was outlined earlier where there would be no room to treat such emergencies if we keep going the way we are.

    That is absolutely terrifying.


  • #1964
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Look NI was always a kind of lawless place that hasn't had any governance from a Government/Assembly for years, and still doesn't really when you think about it. It is more a place to never surrender, from either side, so no matter who says what one side will rebel.

    Anyway just saying. I don't give a stuff about them up there. I doubt many down here do either. Apart from the Shinners.


  • #1965
    jams100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭jams100


    Time to get on with life, maintain the current restrictions fair enough but there's no need for further restrictions until we can see on the 12th Jan the impact the current ones have had


  • #1966
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    FlubberJones wrote: »
    With all this scaremongering and menaces from all avenues, I'm literally at the end of caring. I have to do what I have to do but thats it.... for no other reason. I have gone beyond giving a **** about other people.

    I respect your honesty tbh unlike many on here who hide behind all sorts of excuses.


  • #1967
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    FlubberJones wrote: »
    With all this scaremongering and menaces from all avenues, I'm literally at the end of caring. I have to do what I have to do but thats it.... for no other reason. I have gone beyond giving a **** about other people.

    Nice, at least you are honest. A lot of people had that opinion going into December and we are seeing the result. Hopefully you or anyone you know won't need hospital care because people do get triaged when hospitals come under pressure.

    I don't think this person gave a sh!te either until they did. No judgement on either of you just stay safe.

    https://twitter.com/NoContextHumans/status/1344051989622226946?s=20


  • #1968
    chicorytip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,347 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    I want to know exactly what I am being injected with if I accept this vaccine. The HSE's information leaflet contains no specific list of ingredients only making general points about possible side effects and with no reference to the possibility of developing severe allergic reaction to some particular element of the dose which, statistically speaking, could lead to many deaths.


  • #1969
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Anyway **** the HSE, **** NPHET, **** the government. Little to no icu capacity added, **** all staff added, just constant deflection and all of us fighting amongst ourselves blaming each other if hospitals become overwhelmed when they did absolutely **** all to help the situation from their side.


  • #1970
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    Hardly, if people have different opinions than you it should not disgust you, some people may think that living a better quality shorter life is better, I don't necessarily agree but people are entitled to their opinions without being looked down at by you.

    And im entitled to (rightfully) look down on those opinions.


  • #1971
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    niallo27 wrote: »
    That's why I asked what they are scared of, the narrative that this is a death sentence has to change. People are terrified.

    All you can possibly know is population level risk. Not the risk to an individual.

    Further, you freely accuse others of not being considerate of businesses and employees who lose their jobs, but at the same time you brazenly dismiss the concerns of a poster due to COVID.

    Maybe such things are not so black and white.


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  • #1972
    FlubberJones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭FlubberJones


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Nice, at least you are honest. A lot of people had that opinion going into December and we are seeing the result. Hopefully you or anyone you know won't need hospital care because people do get triaged when hospitals come under pressure.

    I don't think this person gave a sh!te either until they did. No judgement on either of you just stay safe.

    https://twitter.com/NoContextHumans/status/1344051989622226946?s=20

    As stated I don't care any longer... I simply do what I have to do. For no other reason than the government say so. And if this gets me in a better place then great.


  • #1973
    irishproduce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    Will Yam wrote: »
    If they shut the schools they won’t get them open again this side of September.

    The teachers unions will ensure that.

    It really is an awful situation that the government have to plan into the strategy to keep the teachers and the unions at bay. To factor in exactly as you say, that they can't give them an inch.
    They are themselves to blame that they can't be trusted on past performance and so the government have to take a zero tolerance approach with them.


  • #1974
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Anyway **** the HSE, **** NPHET, **** the government. Little to no icu capacity added, **** all staff added, just constant deflection and all of us fighting amongst ourselves blaming each other if hospitals become overwhelmed when they did absolutely **** all to help the situation from their side.

    This is the bottom line really. Our leaders have done nothing but closed down sectors and tried to buy them off with borrowed money.

    Restrictions are no longer working anyways because people want to move on and live whatever amount of life they have left.

    And I include the elderly in that. Do a survey in nursing homes and see how many want to spend their remaining months/weeks with no visitors etc


  • #1975
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    FlubberJones wrote: »
    With all this scaremongering and menaces from all avenues, I'm literally at the end of caring. I have to do what I have to do but thats it.... for no other reason. I have gone beyond giving a **** about other people.
    Were you not traipsing all around Europe during the summer and complaining about being supposed to isolate upon your returns? Is it a long end of caring you're at?


  • #1976
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,540 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    And im entitled to (rightfully) look down on those opinions.

    Says alot about you


  • #1977
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Turtwig wrote: »
    All you can possibly know is population level risk. Not the risk to an individual.

    Further, you freely accuse others of not being considerate of businesses and employees who lose their jobs, but at the same time you brazenly dismiss the concerns of a poster due to COVID.

    Maybe such things are not so black and white.

    I didn't dismiss any concerns, I don't think any poster should be terrified. Do you think the poster should be terrified all their friends and family will die of this.


  • #1978
    kenmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,283 ✭✭✭kenmc


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Is that written down somewhere or just your opinion?

    It's one of the return to work protocol questions - are you a close contact, awaiting test, have any of these symptoms, travelled abroad etc. If yes then do not attend work.

    Like seriously we've been doing this for at least 6 months, how is this new?


  • #1979
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Anyway **** the HSE, **** NPHET, **** the government. Little to no icu capacity added, **** all staff added, just constant deflection and all of us fighting amongst ourselves blaming each other if hospitals become overwhelmed when they did absolutely **** all to help the situation from their side.

    What would be acceptable ICU capacity we should aim for? Number please.

    Where would you have diverted the resources from?

    Keep in mind if current growth in infections continues the capacity will be required to be increased continuously increased as well.


  • #1980
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    chicorytip wrote: »
    no reference to the possibility of developing severe allergic reaction to some particular element of the dose which, statistically speaking, could lead to many deaths.
    Please elaborate on these statistics, I am intrigued.


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  • #1981
    FlubberJones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭FlubberJones


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Were you not traipsing all around Europe during the summer and complaining about being supposed to isolate upon your returns? Is it a long end of caring you're at?

    Good call, I was but this was during the easing of the restrictions and I abided again on return. With much complaining.


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