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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #1862
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    They've carried out vaccinations in 80% of care homes, does that mean that 80% of all people in care homes are vaccinated or is it that 80% of care homes have seen some form of vaccination?

    Over 33k people. I'm not sure what the total residency is for all the north.


  • #1863
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Actually just seen Germany's figures for today, they are slightly higher than the whole of London by 1000 or so cases.

    15,960 new cases

    935 deaths


    They seemed to have handled the first wave so well, however this second wave seems to be hitting them hard...

    For me, seeing their famed test & trace system fail to keep them safe was a real low point.
    Some of the things I strongly believed in early on have turned out to have been built of sand.

    Living with the virus has not gone well anywhere


  • #1864
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Actually just seen Germany's figures for today, they are slightly higher than the whole of London by 1000 or so cases.

    15,960 new cases

    935 deaths


    They seemed to have handled the first wave so well, however this second wave seems to be hitting them hard...

    It does. I saw from another source that they recorded a record of 1000 deaths.
    Anyway, death rates seem to fluctuate for many countries day by day.

    Europe is obviously in a rapidly increasing third wave of COVID.
    Either by the new variant or increased social interaction, the solution remains the same.


  • #1865
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    hmmm wrote: »
    We've had to sacrifice November & most of December, along with probably January and February, because there was no politician with the balls to tell people to cop themselves on and avoid socialising for one year at Christmas.

    I think it's very naive to think that people weren't going to socialize over Christmas with or without the government telling us that we should or shouldn't have done it.

    We've been denied that social aspect of our lives for the majority of the year already

    Is it really that hard to understand that some people myself included can't put their lives on hold indefinitely?

    Some people can cope well with the isolation and others can't such is the nature of being human each of us has dealt with this whole thing in a different way.

    All of this finger pointing and playing the blame game has led to an even more profound "us" versus "them" mentality.

    It seems to me that our ability to show compassion and empathy has gone out the window over the last 9 months.


  • #1866
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    hmmm wrote: »
    We've had to sacrifice November & most of December, along with probably January and February, because there was no politician with the balls to tell people to cop themselves on and avoid socialising for one year at Christmas.

    Hang on, did we not sacrifice November and part of December because our case numbers were high in October and nothing to do with Christmas.


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  • #1867
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Over 33k people. I'm not sure what the total residency is for all the north.

    It's 80% of nursing homes have seen a vaccination but it's been worded to look like 80% of nursing home residents have been vaccinated. Nothing to really sing about, 33k is nothing.


  • #1868
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    niallo27 wrote: »
    You would expect that to drop dramatically in the next month or two.

    That's a good point Niall, I agree.


  • #1869
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    leanin2019 wrote: »
    Population of Germany 83m vs London 14m?

    Yeap. London is absolutely screwed.


  • #1870
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    1 in 600 people of North Dakota have died because of COVID.

    From a virus with an estimated CFR of maybe 0.6%


  • #1871
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    niallo27 wrote: »
    That's a good point Niall, I agree.

    Two accounts?


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  • #1872
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    1 in 600 people of North Dakota have died because of COVID.

    From a virus with an estimated CFR of maybe 0.6%

    heard this stat recently but then you are reminded that 1 in 85 people in America die every year (of all causes)

    Some people forget, life = death, it's coming folks, don't get too obsessed with covid or anything, your day will arrive, sooner than you think


  • #1873
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,108 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    niallo27 wrote: »
    You would expect that to drop dramatically in the next month or two.

    Well d'ah you'd hope so,

    The point still stands.


  • #1874
    mirrorwall14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    Will Yam wrote: »
    While I accept it’s a very serious situation, I think the reporting on it does need some perspective.

    George Lee on with a big graph, droning that we now have a higher number in hospital than during the second spike.

    But never mentioned that, high as it is, it is less than 50% of the highest day.

    And also that today was the worst day for cases on record. But he failed to mention that today is the first normal working day for 5 days, when case reporting is probably lower than normal, so one might expect a somewhat inflated number due to backlog.

    And the positivity rate for last 7 days is 8.2% (8.4%?). Given that we have been told that over Christmas many people were reluctant to go for a test ( and because of this we were being exhorted to go for a test and not wait), is it not surprising that a higher % of those who did go for a test tested positive?

    It seems to me that the worst possible construction is being put on the figures. Maybe to scare the sh1t out of everybody.

    But I would prefer a more balanced reporting of the facts.

    While I don’t necessarily disagree with Rte being negative there are some errors here.

    The positivity rate on swabs is getting worse and worse. It has not been improving. It is over 14% today. We are back at relatively normal levels of testing today setting aside the days that we had some huge numbers of tests never seen before just before Christmas

    There is no backlog in those figures. There were 2007 swabs today. We only announced 1546. There are a good 1500 odd cases in a backlog that have not been announced yet.


  • #1875
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    It's 80% of nursing homes have seen a vaccination but it's been worded to look like 80% of nursing home residents have been vaccinated. Nothing to really sing about, 33k is nothing.

    Half their deaths are from care homes, how can you say 33k is nothing.


  • #1876
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    HSE operations report 29/12 as of 8pm

    Covid cases hospitalised 424 - increase from 385.

    ICU confirmed Covid cases 34 increase from 30
    1 death in ICUs last 24 hours
    Confirmed Covid cases ventilated 19 - increase from 16
    Available ICU beds 36


  • #1877
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Two accounts?

    27 at least


  • #1878
    Will Yam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Will Yam


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Inevitable really. You can't send teachers, SNA's, school bus drivers etc.. back into that environment. They need to make a call tomorrow and leave them shut until Jan 18th at the very least.

    If they shut the schools they won’t get them open again this side of September.

    The teachers unions will ensure that.


  • #1879
    BobbyMalone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭BobbyMalone


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    We had clear rules from the first few weeks, if someone in the household is being tested you dont come in until negative test, clean sheet with no cases out of 140


    Hardly clear rules, in fairness. On the HSE page about what to do in this situation, after stating that you should restrict movements if you're a close contact, it then goes on to say:

    HSE wrote:
    If you live with someone who is restricting their movements: If you live with someone who is restricting their movements, you do not need to restrict your movements as long as they have no symptoms.


    Sofa King Great wrote: »
    The government advice has been set out clearly in the 20-30 posts above.


    But not, unfortunately, stated clearly by the government on their own website.

    Sofa King Great wrote: »
    As has been said, they have to leave some ambiguity in the rules to allow for exceptional circumstances but the whole country have and continue to interpret every rule in the way that suits them and always point out why their case is an exception


    Clear but ambiguous advice! I'd agree there.


  • #1880
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    majcos wrote: »
    HSE operations report 29/12 as of 8pm

    Covid cases hospitalised 424 - increase from 385.

    ICU confirmed Covid cases 34 increase from 30
    1 death in ICUs last 24 hours
    Confirmed Covid cases ventilated 19 - increase from 16
    Available ICU beds 36

    Thanks. I guess.

    Again I repeat from last night, these high hospitalisation numbers seem quite early. No?


  • #1881
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Will Yam wrote: »
    If they shut the schools they won’t get them open again this side of September.

    The teachers unions will ensure that.

    Fantasy


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  • #1882
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    heard this stat recently but then you are reminded that 1 in 85 people in America die every year (of all causes)

    Some people forget, life = death, it's coming folks, don't get too obsessed with covid or anything, your day will arrive, sooner than you think

    This is very true, and we should be reminded of it.

    Yet it should not take COVID too to remind us of the unnecessary death of people worldwide because of preventable poverty and lack of access to healthcare.
    (apologies, for obvious shoehorning my own political agenda)


  • #1883
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Will Yam wrote: »
    If they shut the schools they won’t get them open again this side of September.

    The teachers unions will ensure that.

    Don't be silly.


  • #1884
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,033 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    LessOutragePlz wrote: »
    I think it's very naive to think that people weren't going to socialize over Christmas with or without the government telling us that we should or shouldn't have done it.

    We've been denied that social aspect of our lives for the majority of the year already

    Is it really that hard to understand that some people myself included can't put their lives on hold indefinitely?

    Some people can cope well with the isolation and others can't such is the nature of being human each of us has dealt with this whole thing in a different way.

    All of this finger pointing and playing the blame game has led to an even more profound "us" versus "them" mentality.

    It seems to me that our ability to show compassion and empathy has gone out the window over the last 9 months.

    Well look where its got us.


  • #1885
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    Thanks. I guess.

    Again I repeat from last night, these high hospitalisation numbers seem quite early. No?
    Are you asking if they are early post Christmas Day?

    Restrictions were relaxed on December 18th and Christmas social events started from then so now 11 days later. Incubation period is up to 14 days but average of 5 days to onset of symptoms in those who become symptomatic.


  • #1886
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Nothing else for it. Another full lockdown. The government has no choice. The border counties are the leak again.


  • #1887
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Big jump in numbers in Mayo Hospital, Castlebar. Went from 10 on 27th to 19 on 28th to 30 on 29th. Increases in other hospitals seem more in line with community numbers and size of catchment area but this rate of increase in Castlebar is unexpected.


  • #1888
    Xenji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    majcos wrote: »
    Big jump in numbers in Mayo Hospital, Castlebar. Went from 10 on 27th to 19 on 28th to 30 on 29th. Increases in other hospitals seem more in line with community numbers and size of catchment area but this rate of increase in Castlebar is unexpected.

    There has been a confirmed outbreak in MUH.


  • #1889
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    INTO calling for delayed reopening of schools. https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1344043802613477376?s=19


  • #1890
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,077 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I think I am more worried and scared now as the new variants are spreading faster and some folks just don't care anyone, everyone take care and stay safe
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  • #1891
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I think I am more worried and scared now as the new variants are spreading faster and some folks just don't care anyone, everyone take care and stay safe

    Its like talking to the wall in certain Dublin estates. They just don't give a $hit.


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