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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #1832
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    This is how stupid people are.

    A guy from near me died of COVID-19 very recently. Very popular guy from a popular family so his funeral was big, many multiples of what is currently allowed.

    Among these was a guy who was awaiting the results of a COVID-19 test.

    He was hugging people at the funeral.

    Many of the mourners went back to a pub as is the custom around here.

    The guy awaiting the test results went too.

    We now have a decent sized COVID-19 outbreak in the town.

    Give it two weeks more and we'll see the full effects of this stupidity.

    Is this part of that Wexford funeral? Or is this carry on going on up and down the country?


  • #1833
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    Padraig Mor wrote: »
    Climb down off that high horse. There's not enough info in the post to make a call - it depends on the circumstances. If his wife is getting a test as a close contact of a confirmed case, he does not need to restrict his movements, unless and until the test result is positive.

    The government advice has been set out clearly in the 20-30 posts above.

    As has been said, they have to leave some ambiguity in the rules to allow for exceptional circumstances but the whole country have and continue to interpret every rule in the way that suits them and always point out why their case is an exception


  • #1834
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Is this part of that Wexford funeral? Or is this carry on going on up and down the country?

    Not the Wexford funeral so I'd guess it's happening up and down the country.


  • #1835
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    What an utter failure it's been in western countries.

    And when it's all over we'll have to live through the political fallout from it


  • #1836
    Padraig Mor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    Sofa King Great wrote: »
    The government advice has been set out clearly in the 20-30 posts above.

    As has been said, they have to leave some ambiguity in the rules to allow for exceptional circumstances but the whole country have and continue to interpret every rule in the way that suits them and always point out why their case is an exception

    I've just quoted you the government advice - if his wife's test is due to her being a close contact, he does not need to restrict his movements. If the test is due to her being symptomatic, he does.


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  • #1837
    tom1ie
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    ElJeffe wrote: »
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqbpwJjXYAEqitG?format=jpg&name=small

    My daughter got sent that earlier from a friend working in the royal free hospital in London. It's 15 ambulances with suspected Covid cases waiting to be admitted. She say's London is in trouble and looking at the numbers she is right.

    14,875 new cases which is more than Italy, Spain and Germany. Looking at the borough breakdown, East and North London look particularly bad.

    They are exhausted and she say's everyone is terrified for the coming weeks. I think her mental health is suffering also due to the long hours and stress. :(

    Looks shocking tbh.
    Now for someone in a car crash or who has a heart attack etc, nothing to do with covid, they won’t get access to the hospital as there’s just no room.
    This is why restrictions are so important.


  • #1838
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Looks shocking tbh.
    Now for someone in a car crash or who has a heart attack etc, nothing to do with covid, they won’t get access to the hospital as there’s just no room.
    This is why restrictions are so important.

    In some regions of Sweden they're asking that people don't drive their cars on the off chance they'll need ICU treatment that won't be available.


  • #1839
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    Padraig Mor wrote: »
    I've just quoted you the government advice - if his wife's test is due to her being a close contact, he does not need to restrict his movements. If the test is due to her being symptomatic, he does.

    Just after the bullet points it says:

    "You should restrict your movements because there is a chance you may have COVID-19"

    EDIT: I Take it back. Further down the page it says that he doesn't have to restrict his movements - in direct contradiction of further up the page


  • #1840
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    In some regions of Sweden they're asking that people don't drive their cars on the off chance they'll need ICU treatment that won't be available.

    Eh sorry, from being involved in an accident obviously.


  • #1841
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Interesting study. Masks and ventilation so important.

    https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1343997393855983616


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  • #1842
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,100 ✭✭✭prunudo


    So cabinet meeting tomorrow I believe, when will the next announcement and implementation of revised restrictions kick in.


  • #1843
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,367 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    So gyms and retail shops likely to be shut in the next few days.


  • #1844
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    I'm still interested, and sceptical, about this new Kent strain, which has now been detected in USA too.
    Hopefully with enough genomic sequencing in the next 2 weeks or so, could there be a case gathered in terms of an increased transmissibility or not.


  • #1845
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    In some regions of Sweden they're asking that people don't drive their cars on the off chance they'll need ICU treatment that won't be available.
    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    Eh sorry, from being involved in an accident obviously.

    Are you quoting yourself now.


  • #1846
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,033 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    What an utter failure it's been in western countries.

    And when it's all over we'll have to live through the political fallout from it

    The idea that Christmas could somehow go ahead with massive amounts of intra-country travel has been a disaster.


  • #1847
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Interesting study. Masks and ventilation so important.

    https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1343997393855983616

    Yes, viral load very much a factor, and dependant on source of transmission.
    Nice to see good science behind this.


  • #1848
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,108 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Are you quoting yourself now.

    He's giving clarity to his earlier post. What's so difficult to accept there?


  • #1849
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Lot of abuse for Northern Ireland in here but they have 80% of their care homes vaccinated and we have about 7 people done. Let's see whose death rate falls off a cliff first.


  • #1850
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Here we go again with the schools.

    https://twitter.com/simonmlewis/status/1344034597710028805?s=20


  • #1851
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    pjohnson wrote: »
    The idea that Christmas could somehow go ahead with massive amounts of intra-country travel has been a disaster.
    We've had to sacrifice November & most of December, along with probably January and February, because there was no politician with the balls to tell people to cop themselves on and avoid socialising for one year at Christmas.


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  • #1852
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Actually just seen Germany's figures for today, they are slightly higher than the whole of London by 1000 or so cases.

    15,960 new cases

    935 deaths


    They seemed to have handled the first wave so well, however this second wave seems to be hitting them hard...


  • #1853
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Are you quoting yourself now.

    Well yes, Niall.

    Clearly I am.


  • #1854
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,108 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Lot of abuse for Northern Ireland in here but they have 80% of their care homes vaccinated and we have about 7 people done. Let's see whose death rate falls off a cliff first.

    Have you looked at their death rates and the numbers hospitalised at present. My daughter nurses up there and they are getting hammered.


  • #1855
    WhiteMemento9
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    hmmm wrote: »
    We've had to sacrifice November & most of December, along with probably January and February, because there was no politician with the balls to tell people to cop themselves on and avoid socialising for one year at Christmas.

    The worst thing is it is the same people shouting loudest about loosening the restrictions in this period that will now be shouting loudest about us having to impose a full lockdown.


  • #1856
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Here we go again with the schools.

    https://twitter.com/simonmlewis/status/1344034597710028805?s=20

    Inevitable really. You can't send teachers, SNA's, school bus drivers etc.. back into that environment. They need to make a call tomorrow and leave them shut until Jan 18th at the very least.


  • #1857
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,160 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    hmmm wrote: »
    We've had to sacrifice November & most of December, along with probably January and February, because there was no politician with the balls to tell people to cop themselves on and avoid socialising for one year at Christmas.

    Arah, sure, no-one could have foreseen this. Well, that's what Leo says anyway.

    Aside from plenty of posters in here of course - and most of the people I talked to.


  • #1858
    Will Yam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Will Yam


    While I accept it’s a very serious situation, I think the reporting on it does need some perspective.

    George Lee on with a big graph, droning that we now have a higher number in hospital than during the second spike.

    But never mentioned that, high as it is, it is less than 50% of the highest day.

    And also that today was the worst day for cases on record. But he failed to mention that today is the first normal working day for 5 days, when case reporting is probably lower than normal, so one might expect a somewhat inflated number due to backlog.

    And the positivity rate for last 7 days is 8.2% (8.4%?). Given that we have been told that over Christmas many people were reluctant to go for a test ( and because of this we were being exhorted to go for a test and not wait), is it not surprising that a higher % of those who did go for a test tested positive?

    It seems to me that the worst possible construction is being put on the figures. Maybe to scare the sh1t out of everybody.

    But I would prefer a more balanced reporting of the facts.


  • #1859
    leanin2019
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭leanin2019


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Actually just seen Germany's figures for today, they are slightly higher than the whole of London by 1000 or so cases.

    15,960 new cases

    935 deaths


    They seemed to have handled the first wave so well, however this second wave seems to be hitting them hard...

    Population of Germany 83m vs London 14m?


  • #1860
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Lot of abuse for Northern Ireland in here but they have 80% of their care homes vaccinated and we have about 7 people done. Let's see whose death rate falls off a cliff first.

    They've carried out vaccinations in 80% of care homes, does that mean that 80% of all people in care homes are vaccinated or is it that 80% of care homes have seen some form of vaccination?


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  • #1861
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Have you looked at their death rates and the numbers hospitalised at present. My daughter nurses up there and they are getting hammered.

    You would expect that to drop dramatically in the next month or two.


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