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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #1502
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    frank8211 wrote: »
    They can if they try and if the employers dont agree they need arms twisted. OPening them has had a terrible cost which is finally coming home to roost

    So how do you purpose the hundreds of thousands of healthcare workers and essential workers continue if they are to be home minding the kids? It may not be fashionable to say it but educational facilities also provide childcare that is badly needed.


  • #1503
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Eod100 wrote: »
    "The indications are that the Government is likely to reintroduce closures of non-essential retail; reimpose 5km travel restrictions, and bring forward by two days the rule prohibiting more than one household to gather in a home or garden." https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/ireland-is-in-dark-place-on-covid-19-and-full-level-5-lockdown-may-be-imminent-harris-says-1.4447070?mode=amp

    Do you know if cafes etc could still operate takeout under level 5?


  • #1504
    William Faithful Deer
    Posts: 0 ✭ William Faithful Deer


    Eod100 wrote: »
    "The indications are that the Government is likely to reintroduce closures of non-essential retail; reimpose 5km travel restrictions, and bring forward by two days the rule prohibiting more than one household to gather in a home or garden." https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/ireland-is-in-dark-place-on-covid-19-and-full-level-5-lockdown-may-be-imminent-harris-says-1.4447070?mode=amp

    Thats what's happening so. You can take it as gospel. These things are leaked purposely.


  • #1505
    PmMeUrDogs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Do you know if cafes etc could still operate takeout under level 5?

    They can, no outdoor seating


  • #1506
    Downlinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    Eod100 wrote: »
    "The indications are that the Government is likely to reintroduce closures of non-essential retail; reimpose 5km travel restrictions, and bring forward by two days the rule prohibiting more than one household to gather in a home or garden." https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/ireland-is-in-dark-place-on-covid-19-and-full-level-5-lockdown-may-be-imminent-harris-says-1.4447070?mode=amp

    If they're not willing to tackle schools then this is going to be a long and ineffective lockdown.


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  • #1507
    jaffa20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,599 ✭✭✭jaffa20


    This 5km travel limit thing is a load of xxxx


  • #1508
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Downlinz wrote: »
    If they're not willing to tackle schools then this is going to be a long and ineffective lockdown.
    What exactly about schools do they need to "tackle"?


  • #1509
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    jaffa20 wrote: »
    This 5km travel limit thing is a load of xxxx
    It's just a very crude method of keeping people very local.


  • #1510
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,686 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    I really don't get the 5km bit. If I drive for 15kms and don't get out of my car, I'm less risky than someone meeting up with people 1km away.


  • #1511
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Well the political system up there doesn’t in any way help the fight against Covid. I mean they barely agreed to an extension of restrictions because the DUP and Sinn Fein couldn’t agree. I understand there are huge differences there but surely to Christ a public health emergency would focus the mind on it rather than the other stuff which at the moment is not that important.


    How do you mean the DUP and SF could not agree?


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  • #1512
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    https://twitter.com/notthertenews/status/1343923751457533954?s=19

    😀


  • #1513
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    jaffa20 wrote: »
    This 5km travel limit thing is a load of xxxx

    We walk every day . Four parks within 5kms and all of them packed or at least busy
    We drive within our county to an empty beach with hardly anyone on it and it bugs me when we are all bundled into the 5kms limit


  • #1514
    Lashes28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Lashes28


    antodeco wrote: »
    I really don't get the 5km bit. If I drive for 15kms and don't get out of my car, I'm less risky than someone meeting up with people 1km away.

    Wasn't it to stop putting pressure on hospitals? If you're driving around more likely to have an accident etc. I think that's the thinking of it.


  • #1515
    Jim Gazebo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    jaffa20 wrote: »
    This 5km travel limit thing is a load of xxxx

    Didn't follow it the last time, and I won't this time either. Complete b*****.


  • #1516
    pconn062
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    jaffa20 wrote: »
    This 5km travel limit thing is a load of xxxx

    Just do what everyone else is going to do and ignore it.


  • #1517
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,993 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    How do you mean the DUP and SF could not agree?

    I’m not sure why you’re confused. The DUP and SF can barely agree on whether the sky is blue or not and they couldn’t agree until the last minute.


  • #1518
    Downlinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    is_that_so wrote: »
    What exactly about schools do they need to "tackle"?

    They need to close them.

    30 people in a confined room every day, not considered close contact to a positive case due to "reasons" and the direct correlation to household clusters exploding in late September.
    If this was happening in any other setting they'd have been closed long ago and brandished a disgrace for operating in that manner during a pandemic to begin with.

    We've seen how low we can get cases with schools closed during the summer, they're the primary problem for case spreading and everything else is minor by comparison.


  • #1519
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    So how do you purpose the hundreds of thousands of healthcare workers and essential workers continue if they are to be home minding the kids? It may not be fashionable to say it but educational facilities also provide childcare that is badly needed.

    Close schools like the British did in March. Most kids stayed home but schools were open at a reduced capacity for children of key workers and those who were vulnerable in their home life.


  • #1520
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    If the 5km nonsense is coming back surely they are closing the gyms as well. Doesn’t make sense than exercising 5.1km away is dangerous but indoors is not


  • #1521
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    Wasn't it to stop putting pressure on hospitals? If you're driving around more likely to have an accident etc. I think that's the thinking of it.

    Pulmonary embolism from car crashes are the last thing hospitals needs alright.


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  • #1522
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Eod100 wrote: »
    "The indications are that the Government is likely to reintroduce closures of non-essential retail; reimpose 5km travel restrictions, and bring forward by two days the rule prohibiting more than one household to gather in a home or garden." https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/ireland-is-in-dark-place-on-covid-19-and-full-level-5-lockdown-may-be-imminent-harris-says-1.4447070?mode=amp


    More half arsed rubbish. The 5km thing is pathetic. Either do a lockdown or don't bother at all.


  • #1523
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Deleted User wrote: »
    We’re not at the moment
    bennyl10 wrote: »
    No we’re not?
    cameramonkey wrote: »
    There are some flights coming in I think, just not scheduled passenger flights.
    I think small aircraft and business jets are still active between the two jurisdictions.
    is_that_so wrote: »
    Nope, ban in place until 31 December and probably will be extended well beyond.

    So what’s arriving in Dublin airport from London at 11.15 tonight?


  • #1524
    Avoation1091
    Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭Avoation1091


    Downlinz wrote: »
    They need to close them.

    30 people in a confined room every day, not considered close contact to a positive case due to "reasons" and the direct correlation to household clusters exploding in late September.
    If this was happening in any other setting they'd have been closed long ago and brandished a disgrace for operating in that manner during a pandemic to begin with.

    We've seen how low we can get cases with schools closed during the summer, they're the primary problem for case spreading and everything else is minor by comparison.

    The cases still rose in april and may when the schools were closed???

    Leo and the Govt seem adament to keep them open as they are safe according to them.


  • #1525
    JeffKenna
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    Kallie Future Marinade wrote: »
    For a Pandemic, politics needs to be put to the side. Yes SF screwed up but instead of parking that, moving on and doing what needs to be done, the cretinous DUP and their ilk would not align with an all island approach.

    Look at the likes of Lord Kilclooney on twitter. Encouraging people to to travel to and from the UK via the Republic. Trying to drag us down with them.

    At this point, I'm in favour of putting a temporary border in place with the North to get a handle on the pandemic. As difficult as that may be and within the overall context of Brexit.

    Is that his real account? I always assumed it was a very good parody account.


  • #1526
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Eod100 wrote: »
    "The indications are that the Government is likely to reintroduce closures of non-essential retail; reimpose 5km travel restrictions, and bring forward by two days the rule prohibiting more than one household to gather in a home or garden." https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/ireland-is-in-dark-place-on-covid-19-and-full-level-5-lockdown-may-be-imminent-harris-says-1.4447070?mode=amp

    Who was the poster here yesterday that said I was talking ****e?

    An apology will be accepted


  • #1527
    Avoation1091
    Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭Avoation1091


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    So what’s arriving in Dublin airport from London at 11.15 tonight?

    One of the last repatriation flights?? The rest are cancelled.


  • #1528
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    More half arsed rubbish. The 5km thing is pathetic. Either do a lockdown or don't bother at all.

    Do you think 5k is too much? Or not enough?


  • #1529
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Downlinz wrote: »
    They need to close them.

    30 people in a confined room every day, not considered close contact to a positive case due to "reasons" and the direct correlation to household clusters exploding in late September.
    If this was happening in any other setting they'd have been closed long ago and brandished a disgrace for operating in that manner during a pandemic to begin with.

    We've seen how low we can get cases with schools closed during the summer, they're the primary problem for case spreading and everything else is minor by comparison.
    HSE data says they are not big drivers. You clearly don't believe them yet you accept HSPC data. Why is that? No change in position by NPHET BTW.


  • #1530
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    So what’s arriving in Dublin airport from London at 11.15 tonight?

    Santa Claus? In other news great to see some folks going for the bury my head in sand approach. "I'm grand, fvck everyone else" Being asymptomatic is great for you not so good for people and families you interact with and who may not be as lucky as you. Brightside being that it'll keep case numbers down but won't keep hospital numbers down. I don't think they understood "we all have to do our part to keep numbers down " correctly.

    https://twitter.com/DanielButlerFG/status/1343967743872299010?s=20


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  • #1531
    BobbyMalone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭BobbyMalone


    antodeco wrote: »
    I really don't get the 5km bit. If I drive for 15kms and don't get out of my car, I'm less risky than someone meeting up with people 1km away.


    It's to try and keep people local, but with a (reasonably) simple message. If you introduce allowing people to drive for 15km without getting out of their car (?) it confuses the message.


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