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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #1292
    eigrod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭eigrod


    No point in hoping for anything positive in the numbers for the next 7 days or so. After that we can hope to see a levelling off and then a drop. January is going to be level 5 all the way through.


  • #1293
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,044 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Stheno wrote: »
    I wonder would they shut construction before schools?

    Everything will be done to keep schools open.


  • #1294
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Trying to possibly find a reason why positive rate so high, perhaps people holding off on tests around christmas until last few days?

    Let's hope the trajectory of the positivity rate doesn't continue ala the last 3 days or we will be having a stay at home order by Friday


  • #1295
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,979 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    It should not be the case but that is where we are now today.

    Thank you for replying.

    If we begin to close down aspects of society on the basis of social engineering the population rather than closing them down to stop the spread that is a mistake imo.

    Even the phrase you used 'shock and awe' is a term from military psyops.

    In fact it would probably be illegal to restrict businesses on the basis of false claims. (Note: I'm not saying that there would definitely be a case and a judge enforcing a verdict.)


  • #1296
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    Trying to possibly find a reason why positive rate so high, perhaps people holding off on tests around christmas until last few days?

    Let's hope the trajectory of the positivity rate doesn't continue ala the last 3 days or we will be having a stay at home order by Friday

    Testing staff on holidays?


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  • #1297
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Positive Swabs
    2,007
    in the last 24 hours

    Positivity Rate
    14.54%
    in the last 24 hours

    Jeez very very high unfortunately


  • #1298
    Stheno
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    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    Trying to possibly find a reason why positive rate so high, perhaps people holding off on tests around christmas until last few days?

    Let's hope the trajectory of the positivity rate doesn't continue ala the last 3 days or we will be having a stay at home order by Friday
    People deferring getting tested till after Christmas despite having symptoms according to a doctor on the radio yesterday


  • #1299
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    It's been a week now since cases deviated from swabs in a big way.

    Confidence needs to be restored in testing capacity and reporting, Christmas or no Christmas.


  • #1300
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    I'm increasingly of the view we're going to have to shut everything down like in March, but only for a few weeks. Then ride things out in some high level.

    Hopefully they do it sooner rather than later. We can't afford to gamble with light restrictions.

    Also, for the rate of infection we have you'd expect to see higher numbers of people coming forward for testing. Can we conclude that there are a lot of people simply not bothering?


  • #1301
    Stheno
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    Am I going crazy or was there a 2km limit on non essential travel in March?


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  • #1302
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Schools arent staying open more than two weeks if they go back on their scheduled date. People will need to accept that. The hospitals will be overrun and kids with the virus may need treatment which may not be possible.


  • #1303
    Ficheall
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    Stheno wrote: »
    Am I going crazy or was there a 2km limit on non essential travel in March?
    There was, aye.


  • #1304
    Sammy2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Schools arent staying open more than two weeks if they go back on their scheduled date. People will need to accept that. The hospitals will be overrun and kids with the virus may need treatment which may not be possible.

    If case numbers are over 2k a day next week it would be madness to open schools.


  • #1305
    ElJeffe
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    Downlinz wrote: »
    Non-essential retail closing this week is all but a certainty at this stage. The question is whether they go any further and tackle the schools, even the UK aren't bringing back non-exam classes in secondary.

    As per they'll be reactive not proactive. The school and construction site closures will follow no matter what they say.


  • #1306
    Stheno
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    Ficheall wrote: »
    There was, aye.

    /shudder


  • #1307
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Ficheall wrote: »
    There was, aye.

    Those were the days, was fantastic when half your radius spilled out into the ocean.


  • #1308
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Maybe a lot of people won't like this idea, but a really strict time-limited 2 week circuit-breaker from 4th to 17th January would do a lot to seriously reduce the amount of virus circulating. Hibernation.


  • #1309
    WoollyRedHat
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    Sammy2012 wrote: »
    If case numbers are over 2k a day next week it would be madness to open schools.

    Might be sensible to stagger opening like they are planning to do in the UK.


  • #1310
    KrustyUCC
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    Stheno wrote: »
    Am I going crazy or was there a 2km limit on non essential travel in March?

    Nope 2km was there alright

    It was only expanded to 5km on the 5th of May


  • #1311
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,108 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Maybe a lot of people won't like this idea, but a really strict time-limited 2 week circuit-breaker from 4th to 17th January would do a lot to seriously reduce the amount of virus circulating. Hibernation.

    Two weeks wouldn't be long enough.


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  • #1312
    Stheno
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    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    I'm increasingly of the view we're going to have to shut everything down like in March, but only for a few weeks. Then ride things out in some high level.

    Hopefully they do it sooner rather than later. We can't afford to gamble with light restrictions.

    Also, for the rate of infection we have you'd expect to see higher numbers of people coming forward for testing. Can we conclude that there are a lot of people simply not bothering?

    Be interesting to know how many being tested positive are among the 30k who came home for Christmas and developed symptoms

    If its high enough people they infected may not yet be symptomatic

    And contact tracers are having trouble getting people with UK numbers to answer their phonea


  • #1313
    Ficheall
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    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Those were the days, was fantastic when half your radius spilled out into the ocean.
    I'd sooner pick being next to the beach than whatever else you might want in the 2km.


  • #1314
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Schools should not open on 4th January, plain and simple, postpone until 11th January.

    I hope they government see sense in this.


  • #1315
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Two weeks wouldn't be long enough.

    But it might be enough to make things a good degree more manageable while at the same time being tolerable to most of the population? I'm talking strict like March.


  • #1316
    growleaves
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    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    I'm increasingly of the view we're going to have to shut everything down like in March, but only for a few weeks.

    Its never just a few weeks though.

    Arlene Foster even admitted the term 'circuit breaker' had become meaningless in the context of ongoing, 'in and out' lockdowns.


  • #1317
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Positive Swabs
    2,007
    in the last 24 hours

    Positivity Rate
    14.54%
    in the last 24 hours

    That positivity rate is very bad. 2000 a day by next week will seem like a good day at this rate when the cases from Xmas are factored in.


  • #1318
    Stheno
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    Gruffalux wrote: »
    But it might be enough to make things a good degree more manageable while at the same time being tolerable to most of the population? I'm talking strict like March.

    You'd probably need at least four tbh

    And I could see that then being extended until the nursing homes are vaccinated


  • #1319
    KrustyUCC
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    2 weeks might not be enough but 2 weeks of a lockdown like March would be seriously expensive for the exchequer


  • #1320
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,108 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    But it might be enough to make things a good degree more manageable while at the same time being tolerable to most of the population? I'm talking strict like March.

    No, other places like NI fell for that thinking. Two weeks won't break the cycle.


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  • #1321
    Knine
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    wadacrack wrote: »
    Schools arent staying open more than two weeks if they go back on their scheduled date. People will need to accept that. The hospitals will be overrun and kids with the virus may need treatment which may not be possible.

    A few weeks ago I got permission forms for Zoom meetings for the school to teach from home. I thought at the time it was strange as things had calmed down. Now I know why. This would be a school with very medically vulnerable children.


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