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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #1262
    kingshankly
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    Northern Ireland must be near the worst country in the world at this stage


  • #1263
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Stheno wrote: »
    Thats not good news

    Would not have wanted it to be more transmittable AND nasty. So middling we know what we are up against re meds and treatments. And we know who is higher risk and who is not.

    ...need to keep contacts low and not too long/ out of small dark crowded unventillated areas. To keep people out of hospital /ICU. Aswell as keeping it out of care and nursing homes.

    And away from people when vacinated(unless new data comes available )so they dont become asymtomatic carriers until natural and vaccinated community/herd immunity is on the way to be reached.

    You all know what to do and dont need a level or medic or td to tell ye. Be your own leader.
    Seo é.

    Ps Steno not directed at you personaly :)


  • #1264
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    An interesting thread, the jury is still out essentially in either direction

    https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1343878143925493766?s=19

    https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1343842048080801792?s=19


  • #1265
    BobbyMalone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭BobbyMalone


    podgeandrodge wrote: »

    "the inspirational Annie Lynch from the Liberties"...notes gap between 'inspirational' and 'Annie' as he went off to look for her name. I guess it has a better ring to it than "the unspiring John from Drumcondra".

    https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1343915275763249153


    Well, of course it has a better ring to it than describing somebody as 'uninspiring'! The inspirational Annie Lynch from the Liberties = The inspirational John from Drumondra.


  • #1266
    Stheno
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    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    An interesting thread, the jury is still out essentially

    https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1343878143925493766?s=19

    https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1343842048080801792?s=19

    All the conflicting data is confusing, guess it will take time to get clarity


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  • #1267
    FishOnABike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,846 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    landofthetree wrote: »
    Oxford vaccine unlikely to be rolled out in EU in January as EMA look for more data on ‘quality’ of vaccine

    https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/health/oxford-vaccine-unlikely-to-be-rolled-out-in-eu-in-january-as-ema-look-for-more-data-on-quality-of-vaccine-39910182.html?__twitter_impression=true

    EU red tape holding us back while the Brits will be finished vaccinations by Easter.

    Just goes to show you can't please everyone.

    Don't follow all the regulatory steps for approval and some complain about a rushed vaccine.

    Follow all the regulatory steps for approval and others complain of red tape holding us back.

    The regulatory process has been developed and improved by experience over time to ensure medicines are safe and effective. Following the approval process isn't optional, it's a necessity.


  • #1268
    igCorcaigh
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    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    An interesting thread, the jury is still out essentially

    https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1343878143925493766?s=19

    https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1343842048080801792?s=19

    Founder effect? Has that been ruled out?


  • #1269
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Stheno wrote: »
    All the conflicting data is confusing, guess it will take time to get clarity

    Yup absolutely


  • #1270
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    BobbyMalone wrote: »
    Well, of course it has a better ring to it than describing somebody as 'uninspiring'! The inspirational Annie Lynch from the Liberties = The inspirational John from Drumondra.

    You're correct of course. Poor John (not very inspiring if you knew him!). Still not clear why Anne is inspiring herself though.


  • #1271
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    growleaves wrote: »
    You mean we need to close non-essential retail in order to terrorise people? Isn't that what RTE is for?

    I love when people on here discuss the PR techniques they prefer. Shouldn't you leave habitual dishonesty to the PR experts?

    Perhaps sticking to truth would increase credibility, particularly in the long term?

    I doubt if the people who work in these shops or run them appreciate having their living destroyed just to make an impression on normies.

    It should not be the case but that is where we are now today.


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  • #1272
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    It should not be the case but that is where we are now today.

    It didn't work before so why would it work now.


  • #1273
    Happydays2020
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    niallo27 wrote: »
    It didn't work before so why would it work now.

    This is my opinion. Unfortunately I think after months of NPHET being the boy who cried wolf, the wolf is now on the doorstep and something additional may be needed. Just an opinion - maybe I am completely wrong or maybe I am not.


  • #1274
    BobbyMalone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭BobbyMalone


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    You're correct of course. Poor John (not very inspiring if you knew him!). Still not clear why Anne is inspiring herself though.


    Because she's the first one to get the vaccine? This would inspire people to feel hopeful, I'm guessing.


  • #1275
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    This is my opinion. Unfortunately I think after months of NPHET being the boy who cried wolf, the wolf is now on the doorstep and something additional may be needed. Just an opinion - maybe I am completely wrong or maybe I am not.

    That's fair enough, I just think closing retail and putting 100s of thousands out of work to prove a point to be completey excessive.


  • #1276
    mean gene
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    kingshankly wrote: »
    Northern Ireland must be near the worst country in the world at this stage
    Can't do anything up there with the DUP calling the shots


  • #1277
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    An interesting thread, the jury is still out essentially in either direction

    https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1343878143925493766?s=19

    https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1343842048080801792?s=19

    yep still more data needed... interesting info there re Denmark and this new varient not overtaking.. Found this interesting also

    https://joshualoftus.com/posts/2020-12-28-is-the-new-variant-of-covid-really-more-transmissible/

    More data needed and keep an eye on Kilkenny as first place outside of Dublin that it has been sequenced(not necessarily the only spot)

    So still a potential founder/s possible or behavioural or just a lucky virus. Maybe an equillibruim being found ...would be great if it was a 'Last Hurrah' (forgotten long techinical name) before it just becomes another ordinary endemic virus especially if it manages to wipe infuenza off the floor in its wake.


  • #1278
    Stheno
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    niallo27 wrote: »
    That's fair enough, I just think closing retail and putting 100s of thousands out of work to prove a point to be completey excessive.

    What's the alternative? Put a curfew in place? Have police checkpoints enforcing it?

    That might reduce parties


  • #1279
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Perhaps the alternative hypothesis (that the increased spread is due to the UK opening pubs and restaurants in London, in winter which provides ideal conditions for viral spread and also sees people indoors more in poorly ventilated conditions due to the weather; while the country had 20k cases per day and the scientists said this wasn’t going to end well and calls to move London to Tier 3 were ignored until it was no longer possible not to) may hold some water.

    Same craic in Ireland. Opening restaurants and seeing people massively increase their contacts, especially indoors, and keeping schools open in December which provides the best conditions for the virus to spread while the country was still recording 300 cases per day. It was only ever going to end one way, it’s just most of us didn’t see it happening this rapidly.


  • #1280
    igCorcaigh
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    Positive Swabs
    2,007
    in the last 24 hours

    Positivity Rate
    14.54%
    in the last 24 hours


  • #1281
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    niallo27 wrote: »
    That's fair enough, I just think closing retail and putting 100s of thousands out of work to prove a point to be completey excessive.

    I agree that it should not be needed. But I think it may be abs the blame for that lies squarely with NPHET.


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  • #1282
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Unfortunately very high numbers likely next few days and this will lead government decision making

    I fear they will shut non-essential retail tbh but assume click and collect will continue.

    If you look at things from a simple perspective, if everything is shut and the only place you can stay warm and grab a coffee is in a shopping centre, this is going to attract crowds. Was by one yesterday and it was fairly packed with teenagers and younger people, very few older people around.


  • #1283
    TonyMaloney
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    Positive Swabs
    2,007

    Positivity Rate
    14.54%

    Swabs Completed
    13,802

    Awful. Testing still not where it should be too


  • #1284
    Stheno
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    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Positive Swabs
    2,007
    in the last 24 hours

    Positivity Rate
    14.54%
    in the last 24 hours

    Christ


  • #1285
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,190 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Will there be a presser today? If so what time?


  • #1286
    Downlinz
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    Non-essential retail closing this week is all but a certainty at this stage. The question is whether they go any further and tackle the schools, even the UK aren't bringing back non-exam classes in secondary.


  • #1287
    pc7
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    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Positive Swabs
    2,007
    in the last 24 hours

    Positivity Rate
    14.54%
    in the last 24 hours

    And with a decent backlog it’s brewing for a big number before NYE, which might help people curb plans for gatherings


  • #1288
    ninebeanrows
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    Unfortunately non-essential retail is goosed with numbers like these


  • #1289
    Stheno
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    Downlinz wrote: »
    Non-essential retail closing this week is all but a certainty at this stage. The question is whether they go any further and tackle the schools, even the UK aren't bringing back non-exam classes in secondary.

    I wonder would they shut construction before schools?


  • #1290
    Benimar
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    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Positive Swabs
    2,007
    in the last 24 hours

    Positivity Rate
    14.54%
    in the last 24 hours

    Sweet fcuk :eek:


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  • #1291
    niallo27
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    Stheno wrote: »
    What's the alternative? Put a curfew in place? Have police checkpoints enforcing it?

    That might reduce parties

    Yes curfew, not sure why it hasn't been suggested by government. 10pm to 6am if it means retail open, I'm all for it.


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