Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

Lollipop95 wrote: »

Pretty predictable what will happen. NPHET suggest full level 5 and government will go against their advice before inevitably implementing it when cases rise

For all the talking here and elsewhere that's basically how this is going to play out.

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

The latest thing from the WHO is that the virus is here and won't be going anywhere and we have to continue wearing masks after vaccinations because they don't know about transmission. It will probably become an epidemic.

If the virus is here to stay amongst us, we're being told we have to live with it which involves shutting down the country. But why can't our government learn to live with this virus as well? Surely this involves control at the airports and enforced quarantine?

We seem to be relying on vaccines to get us out of this whole mess but turns out vaccines might not be the answer if it doesn't stop transmission.

It appears that you don't understand the wording from the who,there is no living with the virus while it is a pandemic that is the reason governments are using lockdowns.
With vaccinations and treatments the threat to hospitals been burdened and the risk to those most vulnerable to death from the virus is reduced enough for it to become an epidemic at that stage is where living with the virus starts there will still be an extremely large transmission rate hand washing mask wearing will be the norm till the transmission rate reduces.

Fairly bad figures in NI for 24 hours https://twitter.com/vincekearney/status/1343921968580612099?s=19

Stheno wrote: »

Thats just for one day and not two like they were doing?

Yup

This is an interesting graph that shows what effect variant could have on daily cases.
https://twitter.com/RachelLavin/status/1343182792897785858?s=20

marno21 wrote: »

The case rises in the next few days are already seeded and are the result of the pre and during Christmas free for all observed around the country. These cases cannot be stopped by forcing people to exercise within 5km of their home and closing clothes shops.

Stephen Donnelly is sounding a lot more coherent these days than at the start. In fairness he was thrown in at the deepest of deep ends, but his communication re: additional restrictions and the vaccine rollout on RTE Radio 1 there at lunch was much improved.

I think they are aware that what we see in the next week are already previously seeded infections but the idea of further restrictions is to suppress even further growth down the line again.

People can still infect even more people now who will go on to infect even more in the future, you have to be pre-emptive, knowing that a certain amount of what has already happened won't reveal itself until the future.

The penny still hasn't dropped for a lot of people how close we are to a really grave situation: looking at some of the back and forth in here is like watching people rearrange deckchairs on the Titanic. What's crazy to me is that the reality is so clear - case numbers up, positivity rate up, hospital admittances up.

We're going to see crazy growth in cases and hospital admittances now. There's more restrictions coming

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Society,the country, the world will get back to normal in the next 12 months or so. However I feel a lot of people in society won’t know how to , that includes several here.

Do elaborate? How do you feel people won't be able to return to normal? I presume there's some insight or evidence behind your statement rather than it just being a groundless little dig at the more wary on here?

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

It’s an opinion offered on some of the comments I have seen on this thread, including the behaviour I have seen and heard offline. Just an opinion of course .

I know some people have changed their lives dramatically and even to irrational degree in some instances, but I don't see why that would mean it would continue after the pandemic or they'd have trouble returning to normal.

Happydays2020 wrote: »

I think you are right. Two days ago I was advocating for non essential retail to stay open (on the basis of risk) but it may now be needed as part of a shock and awe - but delays in school reopening except for children of front line workers probably also needed.

You mean we need to close non-essential retail in order to terrorise people? Isn't that what RTE is for?

I love when people on here discuss the PR techniques they prefer. Shouldn't you leave habitual dishonesty to the PR experts?

Perhaps sticking to truth would increase credibility, particularly in the long term?

I doubt if the people who work in these shops or run them appreciate having their living destroyed just to make an impression on normies.

Stheno wrote: »

Thats not good news

Data is still low but this quote from the paper gave me some reason for hope

. Fewer variant
cases (16 cases (0.9%)) were admitted to hospital compared to wild-type comparator
cases (26 cases (1.5%)) but the difference was not significant (Chi-squared test p=0.162).