General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

29-12-2020 01:34PM

Grayditch wrote: »

It's 2021 and we are bringing you a BLAST FROM THE PAST. The infamous 'WE' argument fully remastered in 4k. That's right, if you liked the Suarez Evra Revisit, you're going to lose your mind as we dust off this classic once more, so strap in and pick a side and GET TRIIBAAALLL.

I did like the "the club is part of me and I of it, cut me and I bleed red" rebuttal!

y0ssar1an22 · 29-12-2020 01:36PM

city must be riddled with covid (i am skeptical) as the rules for 20/21 state: "permission will not be granted to postpone a League match where the applicant club has 14 or more players listed on its squad list available".

as an aside the league cup manchester derby will also not be forfeit as: The rules in the competition changed from the fourth round, meaning games are no longer forfeited, as long as they are rearranged at the earliest reasonable opportunity.

29-12-2020 01:36PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Just as an edit: I'd argue it teaches resource management and physical limitations and the importance of squad management and teamwork and that it's not possible to play every minute of every game.

Very good!

callaway92 · 29-12-2020 01:37PM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

city must be riddled with covid (i am skeptical) as the rules for 20/21 state: "permission will not be granted to postpone a League match where the applicant club has 14 or more players listed on its squad list available".

as an aside the league cup manchester derby will also not be forfeit as: The rules in the competition changed from the fourth round, meaning games are no longer forfeited, as long as they are rearranged at the earliest reasonable opportunity.

Perhaps not riddled, but with the amount of people that are close contacts by definition, that means those players would not be available

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 29-12-2020 01:41PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Very good!

Well, you DID ask!

Fitz* · 29-12-2020 01:43PM

Positive cases at Man City include Ederson, Jesus, Cancelo & Torres.

There are positive cases at Arsenal too, in Gabriel and David Luiz & William are unavailable because they showed symptoms.

Now at Spurs, Vinicius & Lucas Moura are also unavailable for an undisclosed matter.

Maybe the online rumours that there was a large Christmas party between a group of footballers of a certain nationality, and their friends, is true.

y0ssar1an22 · 29-12-2020 01:48PM

callaway92 wrote: »

Perhaps not riddled, but with the amount of people that are close contacts by definition, that means those players would not be available

close contacts don't matter as they are all tested is my understanding. otherwise, 1 positive case in a club would rule out the entire squad as close contacts.

greendom · 29-12-2020 01:50PM

Fitz* wrote: »

Positive cases at Man City include Ederson, Jesus, Cancelo & Torres.

There are positive cases at Arsenal too, in Gabriel and David Luiz & William are unavailable because they showed symptoms.

Now at Spurs, Vinicius & Lucas Moura are also unavailable for an undisclosed matter.

Maybe the online rumours that there was a large Christmas party between a group of footballers of a certain nationality, and their friends, is true.

this?.....

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/dec/28/neymar-under-fire-for-macabre-week-long-new-years-eve-party

Fitz* · 29-12-2020 01:59PM

greendom wrote: »

this?.....

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/dec/28/neymar-under-fire-for-macabre-week-long-new-years-eve-party

I'd guess myself that it was more a house party overnight in London. Man city are saying that the cause of their outbreak was the hotel in London. Maybe they should look at their players instead (again).

Shanotheslayer · 29-12-2020 02:09PM

Grayditch wrote: »

It's 2021 and we are bringing you a BLAST FROM THE PAST. The infamous 'WE' argument fully remastered in 4k. That's right, if you liked the Suarez Evra Revisit, you're going to lose your mind as we dust off this classic once more, so strap in and pick a side and GET TRIIBAAALLL.

There was a thread ages ago, not sure if somebody remembers where absolutely brilliant posts went. When people got called out on their sh1t etc. One was like a novel of quotes etc.

I feel like this post belongs in that thread :pac:

If anyone can link me to that thread it will be much appreciated

beggars_bush · 29-12-2020 02:13PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Maybe that's the difference between our clubs. I feel part of mine. Ever go to Anfield? YNWA!

Yes, actually.
Pity about all the dilapidated houses around the ground owned by the club. How many families evicted out of the houses just so they can build a few bigger stands?

Shanotheslayer · 29-12-2020 02:16PM

I can't be the only one that had to google dilapidated

29-12-2020 02:16PM

beggars_bush wrote: »

Yes, actually.
Pity about all the dilapidated houses around the ground owned by the club. How many families evicted out of the houses just so they can build a few bigger stands?

Clearly Everton fans

Trigger · 29-12-2020 02:30PM

Mod: Cut out the nonsense tit for tat and get back on topic

retalivity · 29-12-2020 03:24PM

Hassenhuttel will miss Southamptons match tonight after someone in his household tested positive.

This spate of PL infections feels like its reaching critical mass...would imagine the PL will have to react with something.
Maybe just take Kyle Walker's phone off him.

jacool · 29-12-2020 03:33PM

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

I can't be the only one that had to google dilapidated

Dilapidated - How defences felt when a long throw by Stoke ended up in them conceding a goal, even though it was the first time the ball had been in their penalty area all game.

I think that's it.

paulie21 · 29-12-2020 03:34PM

PL may consider team bubbles. Nobody in bar players, coaches and other staff. Pity some players can't be trusted to behave responsibly

greendom · 29-12-2020 03:36PM

A number of Sheffield United players have tested positive for Coronavirus yet their match with Burnley tonight goes ahead

y0ssar1an22 · 29-12-2020 03:38PM

greendom wrote: »

A number of Sheffield United players have tested positive for Coronavirus yet their match with Burnley tonight goes ahead

the PL just need to be transparent and consistent with the rules.

y0ssar1an22 · 29-12-2020 03:39PM

paulie21 wrote: »

PL may consider team bubbles. Nobody in bar players, coaches and other staff. Pity some players can't be trusted to behave responsibly

so you cant live with your family?

~Rebel~ · 29-12-2020 03:52PM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

so you cant live with your family?

Worked well for the NBA playoffs, but it’s unsustainable for the length of the league season.

They could maybe do with a 2 week league lockdown - no games, no travel, no team training - like we had with the longer shut-down last season. Player households avoid contact with the outside world. Try to start from a clean slate. Though even 2 weeks would cause scheduling chaos. They’ve backed themselves into a corner a bit by trying to play out a full season with so little margin for error.

Mushy · 29-12-2020 04:01PM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Worked well for the NBA playoffs, but it’s unsustainable for the length of the league season.

They could maybe do with a 2 week league lockdown - no games, no travel, no team training - like we had with the longer shut-down last season. Player households avoid contact with the outside world. Try to start from a clean slate. Though even 2 weeks would cause scheduling chaos. They’ve backed themselves into a corner a bit by trying to play out a full season with so little margin for error.

Are there any midweeks with no games for rest of season? Or is it dependent on cup runs?

Fitz* · 29-12-2020 04:04PM

The cases at Man City were not included in the 18 positive cases reported in the latest round of PL testing.

Either were the numerous cases at Sheffield United. But Sheffield United's game is still going game ahead.

Either postpone all games where a club has multiple cases, or none of them. Why just the one game?

ongarite · 29-12-2020 04:05PM

paulie21 wrote: »

PL may consider team bubbles. Nobody in bar players, coaches and other staff. Pity some players can't be trusted to behave responsibly

This is the only way I can see the season continuing.

With 40,000 cases a day I can only see positive PCR test increasing from now on.
If anyone can remember back to March..., what levels of positive tests were there before season was suspended then?

I can see pro-sports (rugby, horse racing) being suspended now across Europe.
Positive cases across UK/Ireland/France within pro sports teams are at tipping point.

tayto lover · 29-12-2020 04:06PM

Games will be postponed as entire squads will need to be tested.
We could see an extension of the season yet.

giveitholly · 29-12-2020 04:09PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Games will be postponed as entire squads will need to be tested.
We could see an extension of the season yet.

How will that happen with the Euros?

ongarite · 29-12-2020 04:10PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Games will be postponed as entire squads will need to be tested.
We could see an extension of the season yet.

When would they be played?
This season is already at bursting point with no free weekends & season finishing early in hope Euro 2020 will go ahead.

53K cases in UK today.
This season is going to be over soon.

Agent Coulson · 29-12-2020 04:10PM

The Premier League season ends officially on May 23th and Euro's start on June 11th

Not much leeway there to extend the season.

29-12-2020 04:11PM

giveitholly wrote: »

How will that happen with the Euros?

No reason the Euros can't be pushed out a little. It's not as if travelling fans will be discommoded.

ArmaniJeanss · 29-12-2020 04:11PM

ongarite wrote: »

This is the only way I can see the season continuing.

With 40,000 cases a day I can only see positive PCR test increasing from now on.
If anyone can remember back to March..., what levels of positive tests were there before season was suspended then?

Open to being corrected but at time of suspension, I think in the EPL it was just one manager (Arteta) and zero players who had tested positive.
But we were in hugely unknown territory, no-one really knew what we were dealing with.

General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

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