Next%- the ongoing debate

ewc78 · 14-12-2020 3:55pm

Yevon wrote: »

Were your runs noticeably faster with them? I'm considering going for a pair.

I’m not a very fast runner, 5km PB around 21:30. The Endorphin Speeds aren’t going to suddenly turn me into a sub 20 5km runner.
What they do though is make the effort it takes to run certain paces feel easier.Running Marathon Pace or half marathon pace miles in them just seems easier. At the end of long runs I sometimes throw in 3 or 4 miles at Marathon/half marathon pace and while tough to do it is always easier to do it while wearing the Speeds compared to another shoe.
So yes they certainly can make you faster as you can do a better pace for the same effort it takes in another shoe at a slower pace.
I’ve over 300km on mine now and they are still in good shape and I won’t hesitate to buy another pair. Probably the most comfortable shoe I’ve ever worn also. Can be worn for easy long runs and fast intervals and everything inbetween.

partyguinness · 14-12-2020 4:50pm

ewc78 wrote: »

I’m not a very fast runner, 5km PB around 21:30. The Endorphin Speeds aren’t going to suddenly turn me into a sub 20 5km runner.

I was at the same time up to a few months ago. Trained my ass off in Hoka Cliftons all summer for Nov marathon. 5k time trial in October down to 20:07 and that route mostly cinderpath and gravel has very nasty short incline at 2k (13% at its worst). You spend the next 200 metres trying to catch your breath.

If I run the same route in my Next% will I get under 20mins? Probably as the extra feedback for the last km will defo help. But a large part of me would prefer to run it my Hoka.

ewc78 · 14-12-2020 5:13pm

partyguinness wrote: »

I was at the same time up to a few months ago. Trained my ass off in Hoka Cliftons all summer for Nov marathon. 5k time trial in October down to 20:07 and that route mostly cinderpath and gravel has very nasty short incline at 2k (13% at its worst). You spend the next 200 metres trying to catch your breath.

If I run the same route in my Next% will I get under 20mins? Probably as the extra feedback for the last km will defo help. But a large part of me would prefer to run it my Hoka.

Fair play doing that time in a pair of Cliftons. I had the Clifton 5 and found them clunky and certainly not a fast shoe. I’ve no doubt you’d go faster in the next%.
I more meant the Endorphins weren’t going to turn me into a sub 20min 5k over night. I’ve absolutely no doubt though they would make the difference if I was as close to breaking 20mins as you are.

partyguinness · 14-12-2020 5:24pm

ewc78 wrote: »

Fair play doing that time in a pair of Cliftons. I had the Clifton 5 and found them clunky and certainly not a fast shoe. I’ve no doubt you’d go faster in the next%.
I more meant the Endorphins weren’t going to turn me into a sub 20min 5k over night. I’ve absolutely no doubt though they would make the difference if I was as close to breaking 20mins as you are.

It hurt...a poor elderly couple walking their dog got a glimpse of me dry wretching over a fence as I finished...:o

3 days before I had to do the same route twice flat out on my own with a 5 minute break (21:04 and 22:03). I don't think my coach likes me.

Casey78 · 14-12-2020 5:24pm

partyguinness wrote: »

I was at the same time up to a few months ago. Trained my ass off in Hoka Cliftons all summer for Nov marathon. 5k time trial in October down to 20:07 and that route mostly cinderpath and gravel has very nasty short incline at 2k (13% at its worst). You spend the next 200 metres trying to catch your breath.

If I run the same route in my Next% will I get under 20mins? Probably as the extra feedback for the last km will defo help. But a large part of me would prefer to run it my Hoka.

I came within 3 seconds of my all time 5km PB in my first run in the Next% without any specific training for it. Closest I came all year had been about 30seconds, not that I was constantly attempting to PB or anything but every now and then I’d do a 5km time trial though also without any specific training for it.
I’ve no doubt with a bit of training for it I’d absolutely smash my PB wearing the Next%
Is the reason you want to wear the Clifton over the Next% because you’d feel it more of an accomplishment doing it in the Cliftons and it wasn’t because of the shoe you were wearing?

partyguinness · 14-12-2020 5:30pm

Casey78 wrote: »

I came within 3 seconds of my all time 5km PB in my first run in the Next% without any specific training for it. Closest I came all year had been about 30seconds, not that I was constantly attempting to PB or anything but every now and then I’d do a 5km time trial though also without any specific training for it.
I’ve no doubt with a bit of training for it I’d absolutely smash my PB wearing the Next%
Is the reason you want to wear the Clifton over the Next% because you’d feel it more of an accomplishment doing it in the Cliftons and it wasn’t because of the shoe you were wearing?

Basically yeah. I would rather break 20min for the first time in Hokas. Now if I were to consistantly start running under 20 then I would be happy to revert to the Next% for the odd Parkrun.

Marathon last month in Next% having trained 100% in Hoka. In the middle of that race I Pd in all of the following distances-

Marathon
30k
HM
20k
20 mile
15k
10k
2nd fastest mile
3rd fastest 1km- there was a short fast decline after 22 km

Make of that what you will...:o

event · 14-12-2020 5:31pm

ewc78 wrote: »

I’m not a very fast runner, 5km PB around 21:30. The Endorphin Speeds aren’t going to suddenly turn me into a sub 20 5km runner.
What they do though is make the effort it takes to run certain paces feel easier.Running Marathon Pace or half marathon pace miles in them just seems easier. At the end of long runs I sometimes throw in 3 or 4 miles at Marathon/half marathon pace and while tough to do it is always easier to do it while wearing the Speeds compared to another shoe.
So yes they certainly can make you faster as you can do a better pace for the same effort it takes in another shoe at a slower pace.
I’ve over 300km on mine now and they are still in good shape and I won’t hesitate to buy another pair. Probably the most comfortable shoe I’ve ever worn also. Can be worn for easy long runs and fast intervals and everything inbetween.

Was going to wait and see if I can get a pair of the endorphin pro but this might have convinced me to go for the speeds

Casey78 · 14-12-2020 6:19pm

partyguinness wrote: »

Basically yeah. I would rather break 20min for the first time in Hokas. Now if I were to consistantly start running under 20 then I would be happy to revert to the Next% for the odd Parkrun.

Marathon last month in Next% having trained 100% in Hoka. In the middle of that race I Pd in all of the following distances-

Marathon
30k
HM
20k
20 mile
15k
10k
2nd fastest mile
3rd fastest 1km- there was a short fast decline after 22 km

Make of that what you will...:o

What time did you do in Marathon?

Swashbuckler · 14-12-2020 7:09pm

partyguinness wrote: »

Basically yeah. I would rather break 20min for the first time in Hokas. Now if I were to consistantly start running under 20 then I would be happy to revert to the Next% for the odd Parkrun.

Marathon last month in Next% having trained 100% in Hoka. In the middle of that race I Pd in all of the following distances-

Marathon
30k
HM
20k
20 mile
15k
10k
2nd fastest mile
3rd fastest 1km- there was a short fast decline after 22 km

Make of that what you will...:o

I vaguely recall seeing some more updates from you here and thinking you were doing a disservice to the training and giving too much credit to the runners. Maybe I'm wrong but there was a noticeable difference in how you trained.

Sacksian · 15-12-2020 3:24pm

I'm going to treat myself after Christmas so just wondering if anyone can answer either of these two questions:

1) What is the best non-Nike carbon plate shoe that is actually available? Particularly for 5k?

2) Are there still lightweight racing flats around? My favourite racing flat was probably the Asics Piranha (about 110g). I've seen the Reebok Floatride Run Fast Pro listed as lighter but don't know anyone who's raced in one. Any others in that ballpark?

Swashbuckler · 15-12-2020 4:19pm

Sacksian wrote: »

I'm going to treat myself after Christmas so just wondering if anyone can answer either of these two questions:

1) What is the best non-Nike carbon plate shoe that is actually available? Particularly for 5k?

2) Are there still lightweight racing flats around? My favourite racing flat was probably the Asics Piranha (about 110g). I've seen the Reebok Floatride Run Fast Pro listed as lighter but don't know anyone who's raced in one. Any others in that ballpark?

Adidas adizero adios pro and saucony endorphin pro seem to be the top rated carbon plate shoes at the mo other than Nike. Not sure specifically for 5k though.

In terms of racing flats, the Adidas sub 2 is the lightest shoe I've ever worn. I love it. Not sure how it weighs up against those you mentioned though. M&M direct had a great deal on them recently.

Duanington · 15-12-2020 4:25pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Adidas adizero adios pro and saucony endorphin pro seem to be the top rated carbon plate shoes at the mo other than Nike. Not sure specifically for 5k though.

In terms of racing flats, the Adidas sub 2 is the lightest shoe I've ever worn. I love it. Not sure how it weighs up against those you mentioned though. M&M direct had a great deal on them recently.

FerrisB is a big fan of the endorphin Pros I think, might take the plunge at some stage in the new year

Swashbuckler · 15-12-2020 4:26pm

Duanington wrote: »

FerrisB is a big fan of the endorphin Pros I think, might take the plunge at some stage in the new year

I bought a pair last month. A glorious shoe! I just need to test them out across 26.2 miles to get a proper feel for them

OOnegative · 15-12-2020 4:31pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

I bought a pair last month. A glorious shoe! I just need to test them out across 26.2 miles to get a proper feel for them

Thought you weren’t allowed have them!!!

Sacksian · 15-12-2020 4:34pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Adidas adizero adios pro and saucony endorphin pro seem to be the top rated carbon plate shoes at the mo other than Nike. Not sure specifically for 5k though.

In terms of racing flats, the Adidas sub 2 is the lightest shoe I've ever worn. I love it. Not sure how it weighs up against those you mentioned though. M&M direct had a great deal on them recently.

Thanks - I would probably go for Adidas adizero adios pro (based on results) but I don't think they're easy to get are they?

The Adidas sub 2 is 177 grams, so about the same as the old Brooks Hyperion but a bit heavier than a really lightweight flat. I liked the old Hyperion but felt it was more of a half-marathon racer.

I had a sub 2 a few years ago, not sure if it's the same version but I really couldn't get comfortable in it...just thought there was no life to it at all and wasn't light enough to feel dangerously fast. I bought it for a half-marathon but went with the Hyperions instead. Kept the sub 2s as an expensive walking shoe!

Swashbuckler · 15-12-2020 4:52pm

OOnegative wrote: »

Thought you weren’t allowed have them!!!

Wasn't allowed open them til Xmas day!

Swashbuckler · 15-12-2020 4:56pm

Sacksian wrote: »

Thanks - I would probably go for Adidas adizero adios pro (based on results) but I don't think they're easy to get are they?

The Adidas sub 2 is 177 grams, so about the same as the old Brooks Hyperion but a bit heavier than a really lightweight flat. I liked the old Hyperion but felt it was more of a half-marathon racer.

I had a sub 2 a few years ago, not sure if it's the same version but I really couldn't get comfortable in it...just thought there was no life to it at all and wasn't light enough to feel dangerously fast. I bought it for a half-marathon but went with the Hyperions instead. Kept the sub 2s as an expensive walking shoe!

Alltricks are good for finding some of the rarer runners. That's where I got the endorphins. I was worried as I hadn't used that site before but there were no issues and other posters on here have had no issues either.

I figured when you mentioned the weight of some of the racing flats your probably much more experienced in that range than me. Adizero adios 3 was my racer for years but again that's not in the same league as the weights you mention.

Dubh Geannain · 15-12-2020 5:20pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Adidas adizero adios pro and saucony endorphin pro seem to be the top rated carbon plate shoes at the mo other than Nike. Not sure specifically for 5k though.

In terms of racing flats, the Adidas sub 2 is the lightest shoe I've ever worn. I love it. Not sure how it weighs up against those you mentioned though. M&M direct had a great deal on them recently.

Saw your post about the sub 2s at the time the deal was on. I bought a pair. I know next to nothing about runners but had heard about racing flats. So when I saw your post I figured I'd gamble on a pair. I didn't know myself running with them the first couple of times. They were what I was wearing when I ran 17:17 for the 5k (almost 30 seconds quicker than I expected to run that night). You're probably responsible for a few of those seconds, so thanks

Swashbuckler · 15-12-2020 9:33pm

Dubh Geannain wrote: »

Saw your post about the sub 2s at the time the deal was on. I bought a pair. I know next to nothing about runners but had heard about racing flats. So when I saw your post I figured I'd gamble on a pair. I didn't know myself running with them the first couple of times. They were what I was wearing when I ran 17:17 for the 5k (almost 30 seconds quicker than I expected to run that night). You're probably responsible for a few of those seconds, so thanks

I'll gladly take the credit. Haha. I must break them out at some stage for a TT. Definitely saving them for racing. They seem too good to waste in sessions.

Cona · 25-12-2020 11:37pm

Would anyone know if any real shops like Lifestyle etc are selling Vapourflys? Would like to pick up a pair but dont want to order online as not sure of the sizing of these...?

MY BAD · 28-12-2020 2:08pm

Nike are releasing the Vaporfly 2 next summer.

Murph_D · 28-12-2020 3:18pm

MY BAD wrote: »

Nike are releasing the Vaporfly 2 next summer.

I thought the alphafly was the vaporfly 3

MY BAD · 28-12-2020 5:43pm

Murph_D wrote: »

I thought the alphafly was the vaporfly 3

So did I

Murph_D · 28-12-2020 7:01pm

Maybe an admission that the vaporfly was the better design, now that some athletes seem to have rejected the alphafly.

Swashbuckler · 28-12-2020 8:28pm

So am I right in saying;
4% = vaporfly 1
Next% = vaporfly 2
Alphafly = vaporfly 3

OOnegative · 28-12-2020 8:37pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

So am I right in saying;
4% = vaporfly 1
Next% = vaporfly 2
Alphafly = vaporfly 3

Could they not just keep it simple like the Pegasus 1-37 instead of stupid fancy names!!!

Swashbuckler · 28-12-2020 8:42pm

OOnegative wrote: »

Could they not just keep it simple like the Pegasus 1-37 instead of stupid fancy names!!!

I'll never question the marketing machine that is Nike. Its astonishing the money people have spent on these, mostly down to brilliant marketing.

healy1835 · 28-12-2020 8:45pm

I believe it's actually the Vaporfly NEXT% 2 that's coming

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJV0OL3nj21/?igshid=1hbitk3p1fr56

Swashbuckler · 28-12-2020 9:16pm

So what are they saying are the main changes from the next%?

healy1835 · 28-12-2020 9:29pm

Not a lot from the looks of this anyway.

OOnegative · 28-12-2020 9:35pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

I'll never question the marketing machine that is Nike. Its astonishing the money people have spent on these, mostly down to brilliant marketing.

Or is it gob****es easily parted with their money(I run in nothing else but Nike btw).

skyblue46 · 28-12-2020 9:50pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

I'll never question the marketing machine that is Nike. Its astonishing the money people have spent on these, mostly down to brilliant marketing.

Surely it was mostly down to people realising that they could knock chunks off their times wearing them...

Swashbuckler · 28-12-2020 10:25pm

skyblue46 wrote: »

Surely it was mostly down to people realising that they could knock chunks off their times wearing them...

How you can convince people to part with 270 for next% and quickly follow up and convince people to part with 300 for Alphafly is pure marketing.

And even now, regular folks will still pay the extra 60 quid for next% over adidas or saucony equivalent which are significantly cheaper. It's the brand more than anything else.

Murph_D · 28-12-2020 11:04pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

How you can convince people to part with 270 for next% and quickly follow up and convince people to part with 300 for Alphafly is pure marketing.

And even now, regular folks will still pay the extra 60 quid for next% over adidas or saucony equivalent which are significantly cheaper. It's the brand more than anything else.

That will change when/if those competing shoes get the edge in terms of results, I presume. Nike still ahead on that score.

skyblue46 · 28-12-2020 11:14pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

How you can convince people to part with 270 for next% and quickly follow up and convince people to part with 300 for Alphafly is pure marketing.

And even now, regular folks will still pay the extra 60 quid for next% over adidas or saucony equivalent which are significantly cheaper. It's the brand more than anything else.

Ah I thought you meant that the sales were down to the marketing of those particular shoes which it patently wasn't. Yes as a brand Nike have created a machine that can sell anything to the masses

skyblue46 · 28-12-2020 11:17pm

Murph_D wrote: »

That will change when/if those competing shoes get the edge in terms of results, I presume. Nike still ahead on that score.

I think Adidas have a couple of shoes for next Autumn which will improve on their already impressive shoe. I would also keep an eye on Asics. Sarah Hall has been setting lifetime PBs at 37 years old wearing the Asics prototype.

OOnegative · 28-12-2020 11:19pm

skyblue46 wrote: »

Sarah Hall has been setting lifetime PBs at 37 years old wearing the Asics prototype.

Just the shoes......

skyblue46 · 28-12-2020 11:22pm

OOnegative wrote: »

Just the shoes......

With her i think so...Now that Kenyan who set the HM record wearing Adidas I wouldn't be so sure about. He hasn't been part of any testing pool...

Swashbuckler · 28-12-2020 11:48pm

I debated back and forth what to do when offered the opportunity for a pricey pair of runners for Xmas. Next% is the obvious route to go but the more I thought about it the more I couldn't justify spending that much extra for maybe a minute here or there in the end result.
So I went with the endorphin pro and I'm really glad I did.

I'd encourage anyone thinking about going down the route of the next% to really consider the other options out there. In particular adidas adizero adios pro and the endorphin pro. Asics prototype looks promising too. The difference is 220 quid or less vs 270 quid. Endorphin speed are getting decent reviews too. Will be interesting to hear the opinions of Boardsies over the next few months.

average_runner · 29-12-2020 12:35pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

I debated back and forth what to do when offered the opportunity for a pricey pair of runners for Xmas. Next% is the obvious route to go but the more I thought about it the more I couldn't justify spending that much extra for maybe a minute here or there in the end result.
So I went with the endorphin pro and I'm really glad I did.

I'd encourage anyone thinking about going down the route of the next% to really consider the other options out there. In particular adidas adizero adios pro and the endorphin pro. Asics prototype looks promising too. The difference is 220 quid or less vs 270 quid. Endorphin speed are getting decent reviews too. Will be interesting to hear the opinions of Boardsies over the next few months.

I think by next June, we will have comprehensive evidence on which show is the best, how some shoes suit certain runners etc.

Murph_D · 29-12-2020 12:47pm

We can hypothesise all we like. The fact is, until all these new shoes are tested in competition, head to head, we simply don’t have the data yet. I sincerely hope this competition stacks up to the promise so that prices will (hopefully) fall.

demfad · 30-12-2020 12:55pm

I'm not running too much anymore, but was interested enough to buy a pair of Endorphin Speeds.

For masters runners this type of shoe is a major advancement. Whatever about speed, wearing these shoes wile running seems to inflict less stress on the body. This was the main reason masters were forced to lower training volume.
Not so much now. EG sessions or long hard runs take less time to recover and recovery runs are more useful (less stress on muscles).

Tommy Hughes (Over 60 but sub current 2:30 marathon) has a good article in Irish Runner where he aludes to both the racing value and also the 'mileage' value.

Cona · 30-12-2020 1:55pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

I'd encourage anyone thinking about going down the route of the next% to really consider the other options out there. In particular adidas adizero adios pro and the endorphin pro. Asics prototype looks promising too. The difference is 220 quid or less vs 270 quid. Endorphin speed are getting decent reviews too. Will be interesting to hear the opinions of Boardsies over the next few months.

No offence here, but people really need to differentiate their needs. Your post seems to imply that you didn’t want to pay for the Nikes and went the next best thing that was more affordable for you. Totally fine.
For me I’d hate that approach. If I’m paying good money for something, I want the best available (even if it’s just psychological)

At the moment, the Nike still holds the crown and until we see evidence and testing it will prob stay that way.

Swashbuckler · 30-12-2020 4:42pm

Cona wrote: »

No offence here, but people really need to differentiate their needs. Your post seems to imply that you didn’t want to pay for the Nikes and went the next best thing that was more affordable for you. Totally fine.
For me I’d hate that approach. If I’m paying good money for something, I want the best available (even if it’s just psychological)

At the moment, the Nike still holds the crown and until we see evidence and testing it will prob stay that way.

No offense taken.

Personally I'd need to be seeing a big difference in gains between the two runners. I don't think the gap between the two is enough for me to warrant an extra 60 quid but that's just my preference.

MY BAD · 02-01-2021 3:06pm

healy1835 wrote: »

I believe it's actually the Vaporfly NEXT% 2 that's coming

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJV0OL3nj21/?igshid=1hbitk3p1fr56

Going by a few photos on Instagram it looks like the upper from the Alphafly or another type of flyknit with the same sole on as previous versions. I wasn't a fan of the upper on the original Next% Vaporfly so it looks like an improvement.

DuffleBag · 05-01-2021 3:39pm

I'm probably in the minority here but I'm not a long distance runner by any stretch of the imagination. 5km every second or third day and a 10km run maybe once a month. I do it to keep the weight down if anything but I get savage pains in my shins/calves running on hard ground (grass included during the summer playing gaa) but I got the vaporfly next% during the first lockdown in the hope that it would alleviate the pain I get and I have to be honest it's made it a lot less painful for me. For this alone, for me, they were worth the money. They should last longer too as I'm not putting up some of the crazy mileage some of you are

iancairns · 05-01-2021 3:45pm

As an owner of the Nike Alph and Vaporfly's I can honestly say they were the best buys I could have made. Money well spent. Incredible performance, and I can compare to a lot of others competitors I've tried.

Swashbuckler · 05-01-2021 3:57pm

DuffleBag wrote: »

I'm probably in the minority here but I'm not a long distance runner by any stretch of the imagination. 5km every second or third day and a 10km run maybe once a month. I do it to keep the weight down if anything but I get savage pains in my shins/calves running on hard ground (grass included during the summer playing gaa) but I got the vaporfly next% during the first lockdown in the hope that it would alleviate the pain I get and I have to be honest it's made it a lot less painful for me. For this alone, for me, they were worth the money. They should last longer too as I'm not putting up some of the crazy mileage some of you are

Can I play devils advocate here and ask - is it possible you would have seen the same improvement with a much cheaper carbon plated shoe like the Endorphin Pro?

DuffleBag · 05-01-2021 4:17pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Can I play devils advocate here and ask - is it possible you would have seen the same improvement with a much cheaper carbon plated shoe like the Endorphin Pro?

Probably. I've never heard of them. Nike marketing machine did it's trick. Hadn't heard of the adidas equivalent either before actually getting my hands on the Nikes. First time I'd seen them was some guy on Youtube cutting them in half. "What's Inside" I believe was the channel

BeepBeep67 · 05-01-2021 5:13pm

I've now had a combination of runs across the Next%, Endorphin Pro, Endorphin Speed and Adios Pro, I've found these all to be true to size and infact would consider going down half a size in Sauncony (I'm a narrow foot btw).

I'll work backwards:

Adios Pro, straight out of the box 2hr relatively easy run [16.3miles/7:22pace], lovely fit, just very comfortable to wear, easy to lock-in. No mechanical issues on the run, honestly felt like I was running 10-15 seconds slower. 1 mile TT [5:02], lacking a little something at this pace, doesn't have the pushing forward feel that you get with the Nike and Saucony if I was staring at the Run Fast Pro and these for a smooth tarmac road race I think I would pick the Reebok for their lightness and racing flat feel. Would consider these for 10 mile plus races.

Endorphin Speed, if I could only throw 1 shoe in my bag for the rest of my life I'd be happy if it was this, true all-rounder and great across the paces. It's so comfortable, feels like a traditional shoe, decent tongue, lovely fit. I did do a little head to head comparison versus the Nike.

Same course for the first 4k.
5k I wore the Nike VaporFly Next%, 4k I wore the Saucony Endorphin Speed

HR data, I'm working at a similar level, in fact, a little harder for the 4k.
Cadence I'm turning over a little quicker in the Saucony.
The Nike's, however, gave me an extra 3cm per stride, doesn't sound much, but when you equalize the cadence and stride length it's +1.5%.

I think I would probably choose the Speed for a marathon where I wanted to limit the bomb damage.

Endorphin Pro, not sure what to do with this, it's good, better than a lot that I've worn, it fits well but too stiff for a daily driver, fast but maybe not fast enough for races. I just haven't warmed to it and actually rarely use it, in fact I think I wear for some 200's tonight, haven't tested it on a short session.

Next%, have used for races, TT's and sessions (even on the treadmill). I just feel fast when I wear these. I've had ongoing injury challenges last year and when I'm up to doing a session I'll grab these because my times will be relatively close to what I should be running when fit.

Summary:

1M/3k: Run Fast Pro / Next%
5k/10k: Next% / Adios Pro
10M / HM: Next% / Adios Pro
Mar: Next% / Speed

Next%- the ongoing debate

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