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Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭jelem


    as can be seen with a "NEW" strain even the hyped vaccination is not going to change things much.
    can sit in class then go to parents, sit on bus or dart (shortage of carriages is showing up whilst they save money
    Bray-Dublin). shops for food and necessary items and pubs with food. private clubs with membership and comply
    with covid distancing are closed because they do not serve food despite they have to show membership and
    are traceable.
    Fact you will get the virus unless you are a hermit. you will or not suffer\die as all humans are different.
    seemingly there are those whom seem to have been infected twice or more.
    the "foodless" pubs have been treated unequally in a time of equality.
    humans have the right to choice and if want to go for a drink then that is their right and they may die.
    Ohters whom claim it is a danger to them should lock themselves in a box until a cure is found.
    Someone has to go to work and mix with school goers etc then return and maybe pass to me whom has restricted
    contacts -- So why the pub closed -- there will always be thieves\murderers etc and those whom are not as careful
    re covid and that is life. politicians are hitting small business "pubs" and me unfairly as they attempt to LOOK good
    for public approval and no evidence to support any restrictive actions have any effect on the virus.
    How many weeks lockdown and figures of 500 --- its all a farce which gives creedance to conspiracy theories.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,114 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Listen my friend. You don't need a scientific study to show that a poorly ventilated space where people spend hours on end imbibing a substance known to reduce inhibitions is a disaster when it comes to spreading a virus. That's just common sense my friend. No proof needed.

    Less of the insults, I'm not your friend.

    That'll be a no then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,537 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    jelem wrote: »
    as can be seen with a "NEW" strain even the hyped vaccination is not going to change things much.
    can sit in class then go to parents, sit on bus or dart (shortage of carriages is showing up whilst they save money
    Bray-Dublin). shops for food and necessary items and pubs with food. private clubs with membership and comply
    with covid distancing are closed because they do not serve food despite they have to show membership and
    are traceable.
    Fact you will get the virus unless you are a hermit. you will or not suffer\die as all humans are different.
    seemingly there are those whom seem to have been infected twice or more.
    the "foodless" pubs have been treated unequally in a time of equality.
    humans have the right to choice and if want to go for a drink then that is their right and they may die.
    Ohters whom claim it is a danger to them should lock themselves in a box until a cure is found.
    Someone has to go to work and mix with school goers etc then return and maybe pass to me whom has restricted
    contacts -- So why the pub closed -- there will always be thieves\murderers etc and those whom are not as careful
    re covid and that is life. politicians are hitting small business "pubs" and me unfairly as they attempt to LOOK good
    for public approval and no evidence to support any restrictive actions have any effect on the virus.
    How many weeks lockdown and figures of 500 --- its all a farce which gives creedance to conspiracy theories.


    humans have the right to choice bar when there is a serious situation where that choice can be removed, such as currently.
    you can go for a drink if you want while there are pubs open, and when not you can buy cans and bottles at the off license or super market, i have been doing that for years and saving a fortune and a much better experience. friends and some family members are the same.
    people locking themselves in boxes until a cure is found is unworkable, but minor and limited restrictions such as what we have are certainly workable.
    pubs are not being hit unfairly, they are being hit on a level in terms of the risk they pose, and in normal times they are one of the most pampered groups in society anyway.
    there is plenty of evidence to support everything they are doing, you just don't like what they are doing so are dismissing the evidence, but that does not make the evidence go away, i'm afraid, it still remains evidence.
    the conspiricy theories exist because there are dangerous individuals who want to try and cause kayoss for their own political agenda, it's nothing to do with people not seeing because of the approach most countries are taking, what they are expecting to see had countries just let the virus rip.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    I hope the Government take the advice of NPHET and medical professionals and take immediate action to close down all pubs and restaurants after Christmas Day. Maybe even earlier if the case numbers continue to deteriorate. If past evidence is anything to go by then days like Stephen's Day are a fiasco - men hitting the pub at 12 to watch racing, soccer and darts. Hoovering back pints of lager, being lairy, hugging each other, congregating in the smoking area, United fans chanting in fake Manchester accents if some overpriced journeyman scores a goal etc.

    Impossible to keep groups like that separated, and bar owners would be under pressure to move groups on in the middle of a match, race etc. Paddy Problem Drinker might be aggrieved that he can't follow his annual tradition of being drunk by 2PM on Stephen's Day down in his local grotty little boozer, but the health of the populace must take precedence over selfishness and individualism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭lcstress2012


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    You still have to order a meal

    Some pubs are turning a blind eye to this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,233 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    Somewhat hyperbolic, considering that wet pubs are shut since March and current restrictions mean this is impossible in gastropubs. And won't be happening at all in ten days or less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    What I always find amusing about this site is that in normal times most of the threads were about how wretchedly expensive pubs are, how posters around here don't visit them, how publicans are the greediest sods on the island, and how they have the Government in their pockets.

    Now it's lads getting nostalgic about perching their arse up on a barstool at the counter of some kip of a pub so they can talk absolute scutter with Billly Big Belly Barman while drinking pints of lager.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭cian68


    perching their arse up on a barstool at the counter of some kip of a pub so they can talk absolute scutter with Billly Big Belly Barman while drinking pints of lager.

    Good times


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,233 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    What I always find amusing about this site is that in normal times most of the threads were about how wretchedly expensive pubs are, how posters around here don't visit them, how publicans are the greediest sods on the island, and how they have the Government in their pockets.

    Now it's lads getting nostalgic about perching their arse up on a barstool at the counter of some kip of a pub so they can talk absolute scutter with Billly Big Belly Barman while drinking pints of lager.

    you mean normality.

    you just suggested we'd all be getting ratarsed on boxing day at noon and watching 'darts???'.

    make your mind up. Are we doing it or will we just be getting nostalgic about it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,847 ✭✭✭s8n


    What I always find amusing about this site is that in normal times most of the threads were about how wretchedly expensive pubs are, how posters around here don't visit them, how publicans are the greediest sods on the island, and how they have the Government in their pockets.

    Now it's lads getting nostalgic about perching their arse up on a barstool at the counter of some kip of a pub so they can talk absolute scutter with Billly Big Belly Barman while drinking pints of lager.

    muppet begrudger statement


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  • Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭ Clementine Sweet Bug


    Tazz T wrote: »
    you mean normality.

    you just suggested we'd all be getting ratarsed on boxing day at noon and watching 'darts???'.

    make your mind up. Are we doing it or will we just be getting nostalgic about it?

    I’ll show he Boxing Day.

    It’s St. Stephen’s Day :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,937 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Time to stock up on booze


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,537 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    s8n wrote: »
    muppet begrudger statement




    it's not though in fairness, it's a quite accurate assessment of the attitude of some people on here where it comes to pubs.


    not everyone obviously but certainly a number.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭AdrianBalboa


    it's not though in fairness, it's a quite accurate assessment of the attitude of some people on here where it comes to pubs.


    not everyone obviously but certainly a number.

    At least the few slurred voices caterwauling about conspiracies from the government to keep the drinkers down aren’t so loud this weekend. 764 cases, four deaths and a packed Temple Bar last night. I hope the pints were worth it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,537 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    At least the few slurred voices caterwauling about conspiracies from the government to keep the drinkers down aren’t so loud this weekend. 764 cases, four deaths and a packed Temple Bar last night. I hope the pints were worth it.

    indeed they are quite thankfully.
    shur look i love drink and i'm ridiculously liberal when it comes to it, such as believing that in normal times pubs and clubs etc should be able to decide for themselves when they open and not, but the fact is we are in a pandemic situation and pubs being the least important of things we have to prioritise when dealing with this, not to mention the potentially higher risk they can pose, means they have to be restricted more then other outlets while covid remains an issue.
    the fact is that controlling and minimizing the spread of this virus along with the damage limitation measures have to come before one's want to get a drink in a pub.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,310 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    At least the few slurred voices caterwauling about conspiracies from the government to keep the drinkers down aren’t so loud this weekend. 764 cases, four deaths and a packed Temple Bar last night. I hope the pints were worth it.


    You think there's a mutation that led from a busy (outside) temple bar at 11 o clock last night to cases today?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    You think there's a mutation that led from a busy (outside) temple bar at 11 o clock last night to cases today?

    Nah that won’t be until tomorrow when they announce 800 or 900 new cases, or maybe on Tuesday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭LuasSimon


    Will the Wet pubs be open before next Summer ?
    If this new Covid strain comes in from London itll be months not weeks of a lockdown in the new Year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Thats me


    Those two graphs say it all.

    I'm glad our society prioritised people lives over a few sad piss artists who miss the pub. It's as simple as that.

    Tony Holohan and NPHET are absolute heroes. Hopefully the government listen to them yet again.


    If they will listen to NPHET same way as before (delayed and non-working L5) - this is catastrophe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭doublejobbing 2


    d a packed Temple Bar last night. I.

    Really?

    Packed by whom?

    There are no tourists around and locals generally wouldn't drink in TB if you paid them.

    There seems to be quite a lot of fantasizing lately about packed venues. Packed shops. When in reality any time I've went to the shops since lockdown lifted it has been, for the time of year, scarily quiet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,742 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    At least the few slurred voices caterwauling about conspiracies from the government to keep the drinkers down aren’t so loud this weekend. 764 cases, four deaths and a packed Temple Bar last night. I hope the pints were worth it.


    Add in the new fast spreading corona variant into the mix and we are in for a rocky start to 2021.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Thats me


    LuasSimon wrote: »
    Will the Wet pubs be open before next Summer ?


    This is a main question today. Will the Wet pubs be open before next Summer or not? We don't about anything else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭doublejobbing 2


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Add in the new fast spreading corona variant into the mix and we are in for a rocky start to 2021.

    Numbers will actually properly skyrocket in mid January when people holidaying in Eastern Europe return to work.

    Again, Holohan has waged war on pubs yet at best gave tacit disapproval to foreign travel.

    His agenda is clear as glass. And I can't recall the last grown adult I met who still believes this farce is all it seems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭AdrianBalboa


    Really?

    Packed by whom?

    There are no tourists around and locals generally wouldn't drink in TB if you paid them.

    There seems to be quite a lot of fantasizing lately about packed venues. Packed shops. When in reality any time I've went to the shops since lockdown lifted it has been, for the time of year, scarily quiet.

    Yes, really. Someone in this thread posted a photo last night of a throng of people gathered in Temple Bar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,537 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Numbers will actually properly skyrocket in mid January when people holidaying in Eastern Europe return to work.

    Again, Holohan has waged war on pubs yet at best gave tacit disapproval to foreign travel.

    His agenda is clear as glass. And I can't recall the last grown adult I met who still believes this farce is all it seems.


    it was the government who didn't have the balls to stop foreign travel, tony could do nothing about it.
    it was the government who made the correct decision to close the pubs, tony only advised it should happen.
    no agenda here by tony or anyone else, there is no attempt to kill off the pub or any other agenda apart from minimising the spread of this thing.
    people are just going to have to accept that luxury services just aren't a priority for government at the moment, whether it be hospitality or all else. keeping schools hospitals and public transport running along with other public services operational are the priorities.
    yes, it's absolutely s//t for a lot of people but this is where we are and we have to face the reality and deal with it.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Ish66 wrote: »
    Temple Bar , 11pm,Sat, 5 hours ago :confused:

    Temple-Bar-11pm.jpg

    Great to see. Was out Saturday and today. Brilliant to have an atmosphere in a pub again.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Great to see. Was out Saturday and today. Brilliant to have an atmosphere in a pub again.

    Won't be happening for much longer unfortunately. My only hope is that when the next lockdown is imposed more businesses including pubs and induviduals ignore it and open their doors and people gather in large groups sticking the two fingers up to anymore covid related social austerity.

    The fact of the matter is if everyone breaks the rules imposed the Gardai cannot do anything. They cannot shut every pub or bsuiness that breaks any restructions and they cannot arrest everyone. The more non compliance the better.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    GT89 wrote: »
    Won't be happening for much longer unfortunately. My only hope is that when the next lockdown is imposed more businesses including pubs and induviduals ignore it and open their doors and people gather in large groups sticking the two fingers up to anymore covid related social austerity.

    The fact of the matter is if everyone breaks the rules imposed the Gardai cannot do anything. They cannot shut every pub or bsuiness that breaks any restructions and they cannot arrest everyone. The more non compliance the better.

    You`re still living in fantasy land I see. What is it like there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,375 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Ish66 wrote: »
    Temple Bar , 11pm,Sat, 5 hours ago :confused:

    Temple-Bar-11pm.jpg

    Is that an old photo, is that a food pub?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    harmless wrote: »
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/843227924

    Skip to 1 hr 40 mins

    Anyone who has stayed at home can see what they're missing

    This has genuinely upset me. This has been a really hard year with work opening and closing, fighting a*shole customers and greedy owners who wanted rules bent left and right when we finally did get to work. The same people that btw were the first on facebook crying out that pubs should be given a chance. Then you see something like this and you think not only will my job be gone again in a week but it is actually for the best because the greed displayed on both sides of that counter is disgusting during a pandemic.


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