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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭lalababa


    Dozer1 wrote: »
    Excluding the few full time beef lads the rest of us are at this as a hobby..Lads I work with golf or cycle or play computer games and they spend **** loads of income on their pastime nobody asks what return a top of the range road bike is giving them..they'll never win the tour de France but it's their release.

    We farm to enjoy producing good stock or just to be mucking about at cattle it's not bottom line critical.

    It's not like switching to calf or store beef from dairy herds are going to make much difference. Yes some are into using a calculator...others not so much....and when the next generation of us can't be bothered I think our countryside will be a poorer place..just my 2 cents

    Is this post a joke...holy God. Beef is finished.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭Sami23


    lalababa wrote: »
    Is this post a joke...holy God. Beef is finished.

    Its no joke at all. Same here some of my friends play golf and others cycle for their pastimes where as I farm a small farm and work full time.

    No one questions how much they spend on new golf clubs or club membership or the other lad buying multiple bicycles that he doesn't need.

    I may not make much from the farming but like Dozer said we enjoy it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,571 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Sami23 wrote: »
    Its no joke at all. Same here some of my friends play golf and others cycle for their pastimes where as I farm a small farm and work full time.

    No one questions how much they spend on new golf clubs or club membership or the other lad buying multiple bicycles that he doesn't need.

    I may not make much from the farming but like Dozer said we enjoy it.

    So true, I see it every year, they don't care what hey pay for cattle in the spring and they don't care what they are paid for cattle in the autumn.
    God help you if you need to make money and are in the market buying and selling the same time as these boys are


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    No joke, and I'm pretty sure serious beef farming finished in the 90's once a medium sized farm couldn't rare a family.

    It's a free ish world last time I checked people can do what they like with their time and money was all my post was about.
    People just need to accept that and move on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    It would be wrong to call my farm a hobby, but I don't depend on it for my bills. Yes it is making money for me if it wasn't I wouldn't be doing it the way I am but it also provides an outlet for me in the way golf or cycling does for other people. I love walking through my stock admiring them especially the suckler cows & their calves. I love when one of the neighbors spots the good one in the field & says it to me. I have always had an interest in cattle their weight & their value and from I was about 8 I could nearly all guess correctly to within a few £/€ or kgs an animal. The value thing is harder to guess now until you see the number of movements, age & date of test. My brother on the other hand loves the machines on the farm and enjoys fixing them. That element of farming drives me made as all I ever see is money been spent & nothing coming in. Where as with the cattle I know if I can pick up 1 at value I will make a few bob on it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Sami23 wrote: »
    Its no joke at all. Same here some of my friends play golf and others cycle for their pastimes where as I farm a small farm and work full time.

    No one questions how much they spend on new golf clubs or club membership or the other lad buying multiple bicycles that he doesn't need.

    I may not make much from the farming but like Dozer said we enjoy it.

    I dont want to start an argument ;) but you can see how this makes things difficult for someone who wants to farm fulltime? Ireland is a small country so most people are not too far from large urban centers and work so things aren't going to change anytime soon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,994 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Have 2 pb angus cows, over 10 years old. Around 750kg what are they worth?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Have 2 pb angus cows, over 10 years old. Around 750kg what are they worth?

    If there good R grading fleshy type cows I'd be expecting circa €1.70-1.80 a kilo. It depends on the cow and you could be back to €1.50 a kilo for guttier types, I'd expect the mart would be the best bet for those sorts. Anything fleshy is in demand atm and going for direct slaughter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    Jjameson wrote: »
    The post outlines a part why it will never be finished for the cartel.

    I hear you're getting into the Oats game!!:);)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Have 2 pb angus cows, over 10 years old. Around 750kg what are they worth?

    About 1250 I'd say, more if they're fat


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    Jjameson wrote: »
    The almonds are a nightmare to work. They won’t lead or driveðŸ˜

    haha true that.

    The system is broken though - when you'd see what people will pay for a bit of oats and water.

    Across all facets of agri - sheep, grains, beef and dairy we have lost control of the processing and marketing and most importantly the selling. And there is a lot of people making money in those areas, money that the farmers are not seeing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 905 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    Watched a good bit of the weanlings sale at Gortalea tonight - some good money goes on down there. I’m familiar with a mart an hour over the road from there and you would rarely see those prices for the same kind of animals.
    What happens when you buy at Gortalea tonight? Can you collect in the morning?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    I saw a bit of it myself and do you know what the dairy bred stuck would make as much in Tralee or Listowel .I can not fathom why sellers of dairy crossed stock flock there .Granted there might better prices for coloured cattle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 920 ✭✭✭grange mac


    Sugarbowl wrote: »
    Watched a good bit of the weanlings sale at Gortalea tonight - some good money goes on down there. I’m familiar with a mart an hour over the road from there and you would rarely see those prices for the same kind of animals.
    What happens when you buy at Gortalea tonight? Can you collect in the morning?

    You can collect after the sale... Ye see the sold as seen Charolais weanling bull...wrong lot number on him... Someone almost had a cheap bull that was perfectly ok😂 😂 😂 .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,713 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Sugarbowl wrote: »
    Watched a good bit of the weanlings sale at Gortalea tonight - some good money goes on down there. I’m familiar with a mart an hour over the road from there and you would rarely see those prices for the same kind of animals.
    What happens when you buy at Gortalea tonight? Can you collect in the morning?

    Ya often collected bullocks following morning.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Dozer1 wrote: »
    Excluding the few full time beef lads the rest of us are at this as a hobby..Lads I work with golf or cycle or play computer games and they spend **** loads of income on their pastime nobody asks what return a top of the range road bike is giving them..they'll never win the tour de France but it's their release.

    We farm to enjoy producing good stock or just to be mucking about at cattle it's not bottom line critical.

    It's not like switching to calf or store beef from dairy herds are going to make much difference. Yes some are into using a calculator...others not so much....and when the next generation of us can't be bothered I think our countryside will be a poorer place..just my 2 cents

    And there is nothing wrong with that as long as you are honest enough with yourself that that’s what happening.
    Many aren’t


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Its a happy medium Bass. There is value out there.
    I bought a lmx weanling for 480. had it 24 mts hung at 1704 last month at 29mts U-3=.
    Bought an aax suckler bullock in April 840 died 1550 last week 21 mts old R+4=
    I bought 2 aax suckler bullocks at 24 and 21 mts in April for 780. 390 and 400kg live weight. They will be going in a few weeks. Horribly done. Never seen grass never mind a dose id say. We'll see how they do. They will be going with an elephant of a chx I bought as a 6mt old for 580 that just won't stop growing and put flesh on to kill. He will be 30 mts in Dec. Had an aax dairy bullock for 980 in March kept for 82 days and did 1330. Two aax and a fr for 590 in April 2019, killed a year later for 1550ave. Value is value no matter the age whether it is long or short term.
    Those all bought on farms.

    Those 2 aax went this week. Did 1.2kg per day weight gain on average since they came here and killed O+ & R- 300Kg DW was actually June they were bought not April when I looked at the cards The CHX killed out R+ 482DW but the surprise package of the bunch was a LM 25mts old U= 482.2DW


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    Those 2 aax went this week. Did 1.2kg per day weight gain on average since they came here and killed O+ & R- 300Kg DW was actually June they were bought not April when I looked at the cards The CHX killed out R+ 482DW but the surprise package of the bunch was a LM 25mts old U= 482.2DW

    They done ok for you, there would be a twist in them and that's what we all want. In fairness them middle of the road cattle can leave a right twist when the get a chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    What sort of management have ye all to get them results ,is is like 21day rotation like the dairy cows stocked tight like over 1 animal to the acre or have each animal a big roam .Is it prime land reseeded or older type grass


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Anto_Meath wrote: »
    They done ok for you, there would be a twist in them and that's what we all want. In fairness them middle of the road cattle can leave a right twist when the get a chance.

    Took a chance on the two aax to be honest. Seen the cows and bull they came out of, but the farmer hadn't the ground to put weight on stores. Once they came off milk it was grass v rushes. They took off here. I bought two yearling aax for 425 this year that have grown like weeds since they got here. Again came off ground that wouldn't and couldn't put weight on an animal. The LM was bought for 830 16 months ago 365kg. Finished super well. Was the smallest/youngest bullock in the shed last year and turned the highest price this year. A man with a good eye picked that lad up for me. : )


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    cute geoge wrote: »
    What sort of management have ye all to get them results ,is is like 21day rotation like the dairy cows stocked tight like over 1 animal to the acre or have each animal a big roam .Is it prime land reseeded or older type grass

    Something similar.
    All 1.2 to 3 acre paddocks. Get them out early as possible. Rotate them for summer. Ive 2 areas of land with areas that I can feed cattle meal. They are fed meal from July on. If they are finishing early in the year they would be getting 2kg per head per day with the good early grass. From July on id slowly increase meal as the year progresses and the grass proof goes. Towards the end id supplement with high dmd silage with the grass and the meal, again fed in the feeding areas not to fcuk up the land. I dont finish anything from the shed no matter how late it gets. Ive a lot of reseeding done. I possibly put a bit too much thought into shoulders of the seasons grass and I get a bit burnt up then in the middle of summer. But as Say My Name says the brix is high on grass that has plenty of sun and they thrive on feck all with the sugar content off that. Ive had to feed silage 2 of the last 3 years due to burning up. Have lashings of grass early and late on ant that helps. I've a dry shed so rotate fields for FYM yearly. Super stuff for getting life back into the soil. Have got a lot of tips from Leslie Dwyer in APS Bio Ag on improving the fertility of the ground so I can cut back on fert. Starting to show good results and hopefully I'll be better prepared for next summer and with a deeper root structure I won't be burning up as much and producing fields of stem from lack of moisture stress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭FeelTheBern


    Grueller wrote: »
    Costs based on 40 cows off the top of my head and a 4 month winter
    €150 silage
    €50 for vet and dosing
    €30 for straw (2 bales at €15 each for life backs and calving pens)
    €30 for contractor (slurry, fym)
    €30 for insurance
    €40 for fertiliser for grassland
    Meal for weanlings/ calves €70

    That is €410 on a short winter with no meal for the cow, which imo she shouldn't get. I have included no cost for machinery depreciation, repairs, payments, maintenance, fencing, reseeding, lime, no hedgecutting in that contractors bill.
    A suckler cow cannot be kept sub €400.

    This post is from a week ago. Saw good few comments afterwards suggesting that €50 per suckler cow for vet and dosing was crazy.

    Just paid my own vet bill today and it’s a bit over €50 per cow for 35 sucklers. Herd test, private test to sell weanlings not born at last test, Rotavec Corona, some dosing, treat pneumonia in some calves, couple of call outs. Nothing crazy in what I was doing but think the estimate which was given is bang on - and would actually be higher in reality in a lot of places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,488 ✭✭✭tanko


    Haven't had a vet in the yard this year apart from the herd test, first time i've managed that. Every vet visit is going to be €100 of a cost at least. Prevention is better than cure in every way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,218 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    tanko wrote: »
    Haven't had a vet in the yard this year apart from the herd test, first time i've managed that. Every vet visit is going to be €100 of a cost at least. Prevention is better than cure in every way.

    Had a 18 month heifer get a right going over with Ibr, bought in, all the others vaccinated.

    Presumed she was, presumption is a sure route to a kicked hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,488 ✭✭✭tanko


    Is marteye working for people?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭grassroot1


    yep


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,488 ✭✭✭tanko


    I deleted it and downloaded again, working ok now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,994 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Have 4 aax fr second calvers to sell. Calving in the spring to an aa bull. Plenty of milk and stars. What are they worth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭Grueller


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Have 4 aax fr second calvers to sell. Calving in the spring to an aa bull. Plenty of milk and stars. What are they worth?

    My guess is €1000 - €1050 a head without seeing them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    Sold a nice red Zag heifer yesterday 590kgs €1,540. You would look at her for another while before she would kill into it.
    Sold two other lighter ones
    430 kg €1080 (a twin to a bull) & 450kgs €1120.
    The first one was just over 25 months and the other two were 17 months. I thought it was a price for them.


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