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Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

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  • #2402
    Stevieluvsye
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye


    Feisar wrote: »
    It's a fairly universal symbol of solidarity/resistance.

    Black power. That's what it is about. But i'll say that a lot of people haven't a clue what it is supposed to be about


  • #2403
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stevieluvsye wrote: »
    Black power. That's what it is about. But i'll say that a lot of people haven't a clue what it is supposed to be about
    If the hand was open and held at 45degrees, it would be fascist and considered highly offensive/racist.

    Pick -n- mix racism.


  • #2404
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    If the hand was open and held at 45degrees, it would be fascist and considered highly offensive/racist.

    Pick -n- mix racism.

    The origins of both salutes are rooted in racism for sure. You're not wrong.

    Only thing is, one of them came from the oppressor, the other - from the oppressed. There's a bit of a difference like.



    Jez lads ye really do have a quare view of racism in here..


  • #2405
    ingalway
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭ingalway


    Canada is insane.
    https://twitter.com/NEWS1130/status/1339318910718521353?s=19


  • #2406
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,606 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1339255372956176384


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  • #2407
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    Jez lads ye really do have a quare view of racism in here..

    Not really. Just because it was used in the past as a gesture of solidarity and defiance for justifiable reasons, doesn't mean that it signifies the same thing today. Sure, Black people could be using it to show their resistance to discrimination.

    At the same time, it could, just as easily, be used to show Black supremacy, the same as many White supremacy groups use the same gesture.

    I'm always amazed at the lengths that people go to ignore the behavior that went on throughout the BLM protests in the US. The armed Black militia in uniforms (or without) shouting slogans of Black power and their contempt for white people.

    The sad truth is that the raised fist has been taken further than it originally meant to be. The Black Panthers used it, and they were something of a "dodgy" organisation, but they lived in dangerous times. However, we have groups associated with BLM, whether they're chapters or completely independent, using the salute while promoting the view of Black power... in a way that is very similar to the White supremacy groups.

    Now, no doubt, you'll find excuses and justifications for all this, or dismiss it entirely. I've seen so many posters twisting themselves into knots to avoid acknowledging any negativity at all, that might be connected to the Black rights movements.


  • #2408
    Stevieluvsye
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Not really. Just because it was used in the past as a gesture of solidarity and defiance for justifiable reasons, doesn't mean that it signifies the same thing today. Sure, Black people could be using it to show their resistance to discrimination.

    At the same time, it could, just as easily, be used to show Black supremacy, the same as many White supremacy groups use the same gesture.

    I'm always amazed at the lengths that people go to ignore the behavior that went on throughout the BLM protests in the US. The armed Black militia in uniforms (or without) shouting slogans of Black power and their contempt for white people.

    The sad truth is that the raised fist has been taken further than it originally meant to be. The Black Panthers used it, and they were something of a "dodgy" organisation, but they lived in dangerous times. However, we have groups associated with BLM, whether they're chapters or completely independent, using the salute while promoting the view of Black power... in a way that is very similar to the White supremacy groups.

    Now, no doubt, you'll find excuses and justifications for all this, or dismiss it entirely. I've seen so many posters twisting themselves into knots to avoid acknowledging any negativity at all, that might be connected to the Black rights movements.

    Don't waste your time. Sure this is the woke thread


  • #2409
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Stevieluvsye wrote: »
    Don't waste your time. Sure this is the woke thread

    It took me.. what? 3 minutes to type that up. It's not a chore.. and this kind of stuff should be resisted.

    We've seen what happens to society when such movements and the messages they promote aren't resisted (radical feminism, toxic masculinity, etc). Nah. Stand up, and argue what you perceive to be wrong. Ignoring it will simply ensure that your descendants will have to live under it too.

    If we want a country free of the racial/social stresses that the US and the UK has, we need to balance the scales and stop pandering to this rubbish.


  • #2410
    Feisar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Stevieluvsye wrote: »
    Black power. That's what it is about. But i'll say that a lot of people haven't a clue what it is supposed to be about

    Currently yes, however it’s history is more varied:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_fist

    First they came for the socialists...



  • #2411
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It took me.. what? 3 minutes to type that up. It's not a chore.. and this kind of stuff should be resisted.

    We've seen what happens to society when such movements and the messages they promote aren't resisted (radical feminism, toxic masculinity, etc). Nah. Stand up, and argue what you perceive to be wrong. Ignoring it will simply ensure that your descendants will have to live under it too.

    If we want a country free of the racial/social stresses that the US and the UK has, we need to balance the scales and stop pandering to this rubbish.
    Yes, I brought up the "silent majority" point earlier and how it allowed a pro-brexit vote to be passed, another poster instead of commenting on the silent majority point, diverted attention onto what he thought my opinions are about brexit (and getting it completely wrong)!

    Resisting extreme"woke-ness" is every bit as important as opposing extremism, in reality woke is another form of extremism where minority views are forced into the mainstream and all opposition is bulldozed out of the way using tactics such as comparing opponents to fascists.


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  • #2412
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    [/LIST]
    retalivity wrote: »
    As long as it takes for you to stop being a fascist dammit

    Oh deary me


  • #2413
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    [/LIST]

    Oh deary me

    He did a hate speech i believe .


  • #2414
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Laws are about to be passed halting the spread of hate speech online in Ireland now in the next few days.

    I wonder will it affect boards?


  • #2415
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    He did a hate speech i believe .

    On 2nd thoughts I think he might've been joking.


  • #2416
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Laws are about to be passed halting the spread of hate speech online in Ireland now in the next few days.

    I wonder will it affect boards?
    Extreme censorship will be the most likely outcome, no one wants to risk a criminal conviction by being too "relaxed" with what is or isn't hate speech, this is such a subjective matter.


    All it needs are a few Karen's to flag something for it to be added to the "banned" list.


  • #2417
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    How can they do this without amending the Constitution?


  • #2418
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Extreme censorship will be the most likely outcome, no one wants to risk a criminal conviction by being too "relaxed" with what is or isn't hate speech, this is such a subjective matter.


    All it needs are a few Karen's to flag something for it to be added to the "banned" list.
    I for one welcome our new Karen over lords!

    I SAY ladies ...you do look well! Kisses arse! :)


  • #2419
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    I for one welcome our new Karen over lords!

    I SAY ladies ...you do look well! Kisses arse! :)

    I wouldn't be in such a rush if I were you. You've come out with some really oddball comments in threads which could be interpreted as being 'suspect'.

    This is the problem with such things. Agendas will decide what/who gets censored, and punished for their words...


  • #2420
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    Stepping point my hole, that's horseshīt, frankly.

    That's the aul gay marriage argument "sure what's next, lads marrying horses wha?".

    That's actually been vindicated. Since gay marriage abortion has been brought in, they're trying to overturn the citizenship referendum and now they're forcing so-called hate speech laws on us.

    Given them an inch...


  • #2421
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Deleted User wrote: »
    You've come out with some really oddball comments in threads which could be interpreted as being 'suspect'.

    ..
    I can throw even balls!;)


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  • #2422
    Dufflecoat Fanny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    https://i.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/123715517/its-definitely-appropriation-use-of-t-moko-in-cyberpunk-2077-video-game


  • #2423
    Montage of Feck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,948 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    “One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words ‘Socialism’ and ‘Communism’ draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, ‘Nature Cure’ quack, pacifist, and feminist in England.”

    ― George Orwell, The Road to Wigan Pier

    🙈🙉🙊



  • #2424
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ingalway wrote: »
    Canada is insane.
    https://twitter.com/NEWS1130/status/1339318910718521353?s=19

    Stupid / cunts


  • #2425
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    How can they do this without amending the Constitution?
    The same way they are trying to reverse the 27th amendment (anchor babies) to the Constitution that 80% of us voted for.


  • #2426
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Dufflecoat Fanny wrote: »
    https://i.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/123715517/its-definitely-appropriation-use-of-t-moko-in-cyberpunk-2077-video-game
    Cultural appropriation. Ah yeah, here we go again... Sometimes there's a point to be made over clumsy nicking of cultural bits and bobs and Lord knows indigenous peoples can have good reasons for being twitchy about such things, but having a meltdown over it? No.

    In my brief time with twitter a couple of years ago I saw a tweet by a Chinese American guy ranting about cultural appropriation by the usual boogeyman of White Westerners. I pointed out in reply that in the accompanying pic of him in his room, about the only thing in the picture that was Chinese was him and the rest was "appropriated" and mostly from the West, including the glasses perched on his offended nose. This didn't go over well.

    Never mind that I thought the current western ideal for some was a melting pot of diversity with free exchange of ideas, fashions even totems? Apparently not or only OK in one direction.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #2427
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Never mind that I thought the current western ideal for some was a melting pot of diversity with free exchange of ideas, fashions even totems? Apparently not or only OK in one direction.
    A melting pot, yes.
    However, melting pots also separate out as well as meld together, the issue is who controls the sieve being used to "syphon off" the bad stuff!
    All I see is culture replacement as opposed to culture integration.


  • #2428
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Transgender tweets were freedom of speech, British judge rules


  • #2429
    1800_Ladladlad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    During the holiday season, HO HO HO is yet another reminder of the patriarchy and the fight against oppressive language directed towards women on OnlyFans ...


  • #2430
    the purple tin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    There's a period drama set during the early 1800s coming up on Netflix about a black duke :confused:
    I trhink the writers should have payed more attention during history class.


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  • #2431
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    the purple tin wrote: »
    There's a period drama set during the early 1800s coming up on Netflix about a black duke :confused:
    I trhink the writers should have payed more attention during history class.

    Othello ?


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