Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

Seamai · 14-12-2020 04:51PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I'm inclined to think that we relaxed our restrictions too early, allowing enough time for cases to build in the community before people travel home to see their families for Christmas (bear in mind the time lag between new infections and test results).

Always the pessimist!

I agree with you on the timing, had it been delayed by a week or maybe even until the first weekend of December it might have been better but the optimist in me (it's not really me speaking, it's my antidepressants) is quietly confident that we wont be like Germany or the Netherlands over Christmas BUT January is be a different matter.

igCorcaigh · 14-12-2020 04:55PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Yeah just saw that. Doesn't sound good.

https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1338510453006274560?s=20

Would this be the same as the Spanish variant that has spread here, or something much newer?

wadacrack · 14-12-2020 04:57PM

Hopefully will not cause any issues with a vaccine

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1338513025389785089

igCorcaigh · 14-12-2020 04:57PM

No swabs today?

MerlinSouthDub · 14-12-2020 05:02PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

No swabs today?

Not yet - keep pressing refresh on this link and they'll pop up as soon as they are available!

https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/

seamus · 14-12-2020 05:04PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Hopefully will not cause any issues with a vaccine

Very unlikely. The nature of the mRNA vaccines in particular mean that a variant which is immune to the vaccine is also unlikely to spread very far in the population.

14-12-2020 05:10PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Hopefully will not cause any issues with a vaccine

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1338513025389785089

''There have been reports of the new variant in 60 local authority areas, and it is believed to be similar to that found in other countries over the last few months."

So not actually new. Just new to the UK.

eagle eye · 14-12-2020 05:10PM

292 positives from 10,220 tests. Positivity rate climbing today to 2.86%

ninebeanrows · 14-12-2020 05:11PM

Positive Swabs
292
in the last 24 hours
Positivity Rate
2.86%
in the last 24 hours
Swabs Completed
10,220
in the last 24 hours

eigrod · 14-12-2020 05:16PM

Anyone have Sunday’s swab & test numbers?

Knine · 14-12-2020 05:16PM

How long is it taking for results does anyone know? My daughter with a disability being tested first thing tomorrow morning.

seamus · 14-12-2020 05:17PM

Yeah, swabs aren't nearly as bad as the numbers yesterday suggest

Sunday - 359/10728 = 3.35%
Today - 292/10220 = 2.86%

We *could* be trending a little in the wrong direction. We'll be able to make a better call on it after Friday and into next week.

The question though was never about whether we would trend back up, just how sharply we would.

bb1234567 · 14-12-2020 05:17PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Yeah just saw that. Doesn't sound good.

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1338511057204244481?s=20

New killer strain! Classy journalist

Stheno · 14-12-2020 05:17PM

Knine wrote: »

How long is it taking for results does anyone know? My daughter with a disability being tested first thing tomorrow morning.

About 24 hours

Kermit.de.frog · 14-12-2020 05:21PM

The only time it will be known whether vaccines are effective is in a reduction in the number of people becoming infected and ill ultimately. That won't be known for months.

The problem we are dealing with is long term, the consequences are long term and the societal changes are long term, driven through restrictions to varying degrees on every day life depending on the circulation of the virus at any given time and the extent to which vaccine efficacy can be maintained to a high level.

It will be some months yet before that's evident or not with the current vaccine candidates.

caveat emptor · 14-12-2020 05:21PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

New killer strain! Classy journalist

Yeah they just added that in themselves. Wonder if it's even a significant variation or they just brought out that language when introducing restrictions in the south east. There's always a few strains swirling around hopefully nothing to worry about.

Jim_Hodge · 14-12-2020 05:22PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

New killer strain! Classy journalist

I'm sorry but I can't see that. Where does it say "New killer strain"?

bb1234567 · 14-12-2020 05:27PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

I'm sorry but I can't see that. Where does it say "New killer strain"?

'He added: "We have identified a new variant of coronavirus which may be associated with the faster spread in South East England.

"It is growing faster than existing variants, with over 1,000 cases."

There are over 60 areas affected, and similar strains have been identified in other countries, he said.

The World Health Organsiation and Public Health England are continuing to look into the new killer strain.

It comes hours after Boris Johnson led a "Covid O" meeting to agree the measures, which will close pubs and restaurants.'

caveat emptor · 14-12-2020 05:28PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

I'm sorry but I can't see that. Where does it say "New killer strain"?

Sorry I had a link to a sun article there but found one with the actual words matt hancok used.

Here's that sun article. I'd take it all with a massive pinch of salt. The timing is too suspect.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13474181/new-coronavirus-strain-spreading-hancock/

ACitizenErased · 14-12-2020 05:31PM

More virulent usually suggests less deadly based on how viruses usually try to survive as long as possible. Interesting to see how that pans out.

igCorcaigh · 14-12-2020 05:31PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Sorry I had a link to a sun article there but found one with the actual words matt hancok used.

Here's that sun article. I'd take it all with a massive pinch of salt. The timing is too suspect.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13474181/new-coronavirus-strain-spreading-hancock/

Absolute gutter journalism. How some people still buy the red tops is beyond me.

Always_Running · 14-12-2020 05:32PM

Last seven days (Monday to Sunday)

Cases 1984
Tests 80851

Previous seven days

Cases 2050
Tests 75567

landofthetree · 14-12-2020 05:33PM

New mutation of Covid won't be stopped by vaccine.

We won't be back to normal pre summer 2023 at the earliest.

https://news.sky.com/story/new-variant-of-coronavirus-identified-in-uk-health-secretary-says-12161416

It is "highly unlikely" the new mutation will not respond to a coronavirus vaccine, Mr Hancock told the Commons today.

Stheno · 14-12-2020 05:34PM

landofthetree wrote: »

New mutation of Covid won't be stopped by vaccine.

We won't be back to normal pre summer 2023 at the earliest.

https://news.sky.com/story/new-variant-of-coronavirus-identified-in-uk-health-secretary-says-12161416

Did you actually read what you pasted there?

See the double negative?

ACitizenErased · 14-12-2020 05:34PM

landofthetree wrote: »

New mutation of Covid won't be stopped by vaccine.

We won't be back to normal pre summer 2023 at the earliest.

https://news.sky.com/story/new-variant-of-coronavirus-identified-in-uk-health-secretary-says-12161416

Do you even read what you post?

brick tamland · 14-12-2020 05:35PM

landofthetree wrote: »

New mutation of Covid won't be stopped by vaccine.

We won't be back to normal pre summer 2023 at the earliest.

https://news.sky.com/story/new-variant-of-coronavirus-identified-in-uk-health-secretary-says-12161416

Try reading that again

Deeper Blue · 14-12-2020 05:36PM

landofthetree wrote: »

New mutation of Covid won't be stopped by vaccine.

We won't be back to normal pre summer 2023 at the earliest.

https://news.sky.com/story/new-variant-of-coronavirus-identified-in-uk-health-secretary-says-12161416

Is that a pisstake?

landofthetree · 14-12-2020 05:36PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Do you even read what you post?

I was mocked here last March for saying 2023.

I was mocked here for saying a second lockdown would happen

Governments aren't telling it like it is. All the evidence suggest it will take at least 3 years to get back to normal. Everything else is wishful thinking in the face of all the evidence.

Deeper Blue · 14-12-2020 05:37PM

landofthetree wrote: »

I was mocked here last March for saying 2023.

I was mocked here for saying a second lockdown would happen

Governments aren't telling it like it is. All the evidence suggest it will take at least 3 years to get back to normal. Everything else is suggest wishful thinking in the face of all the evidence.

Please provide us with this evidence

landofthetree · 14-12-2020 05:37PM

Stheno wrote: »

Did you actually read what you pasted there?

See the double negative?

You believe Hancock the Tory liar?:D

Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

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