Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

Irish Steve · 13-12-2020 02:25PM

Ger Roe wrote: »

It is a restriction, designed to keep you at your table for longer and to drink less alcohol in the limited time that you are supposed to have available to you - all designed to limit the spread of the virus, by limiting the potential for an increased amount of contacts per person.

It's just that simple. The only simpler alternative, or maybe the easiest to understand and with less scope for 'clever' workarounds, would be to go back to total closure.

And with the number of people playing the "coot hoor" card over the last few days, that may well be an option that comes into play before Christmas, in order to avoid the sort of lockdown that has just been announced for Germany. It's better than the alternative!

Germany is going into total lockdown from Dec 16 to Jan 10, including schools, and Bavaria are also operating a curfew.

Is that what people here want, because the behaviour of some is certainly going to make that a possible scenario.

mandrake04 · 13-12-2020 02:34PM

Stheno wrote: »

The police have told both venues they must serve food

no serving drink until they clear their plate?

13-12-2020 02:34PM

Irish Steve wrote: »

And with the number of people playing the "coot hoor" card over the last few days, that may well be an option that comes into play before Christmas, in order to avoid the sort of lockdown that has just been announced for Germany. It's better than the alternative!

Germany is going into total lockdown from Dec 16 to Jan 10, including schools, and Bavaria are also operating a curfew.

Is that what people here want, because the behaviour of some is certainly going to make that a possible scenario.

That’s probably why people are trying to squeeze in the partying and shopping while they can

I’ve done most of my Christmas socialising now. Anything more is a bonus

niallo27 · 13-12-2020 02:35PM

Ger Roe wrote: »

It is a restriction, designed to keep you at your table for longer and to drink less alcohol in the limited time that you are supposed to have available to you - all designed to limit the spread of the virus, by limiting the potential for an increased amount of contacts per person.

It's just that simple. The only simpler alternative, or maybe the easiest to understand and with less scope for 'clever' workarounds, would be to go back to total closure.

But your supposed to stay at your table at all times food or not are you not.

GeorgeBailey · 13-12-2020 02:38PM

Irish Steve wrote: »

And with the number of people playing the "coot hoor" card over the last few days, that may well be an option that comes into play before Christmas, in order to avoid the sort of lockdown that has just been announced for Germany. It's better than the alternative!

Germany is going into total lockdown from Dec 16 to Jan 10, including schools, and Bavaria are also operating a curfew.

Is that what people here want, because the behaviour of some is certainly going to make that a possible scenario.

In January? Sure, why not. Worst month of the year. Would far rather have a half normal christmas time followed by a January lockdown than a quiet and lonely December followed by a quiet and lonely January just to keep shops open.

is_that_so · 13-12-2020 02:44PM

Irish Steve wrote: »

And with the number of people playing the "coot hoor" card over the last few days, that may well be an option that comes into play before Christmas, in order to avoid the sort of lockdown that has just been announced for Germany. It's better than the alternative!

Germany is going into total lockdown from Dec 16 to Jan 10, including schools, and Bavaria are also operating a curfew.

Is that what people here want, because the behaviour of some is certainly going to make that a possible scenario.

While a January lockdown is not a given it is widely expected and I think many accept that is the price for a level of semi-normality for Christmas.

mandrake04 · 13-12-2020 02:45PM

Ger Roe wrote: »

It is a restriction, designed to keep you at your table for longer and to drink less alcohol in the limited time that you are supposed to have available to you - all designed to limit the spread of the virus, by limiting the potential for an increased amount of contacts per person.

It's just that simple. The only simpler alternative, or maybe the easiest to understand and with less scope for 'clever' workarounds, would be to go back to total closure.

I would have thought food was primary reason for going there as they supposed to operating like a restaurant rather than a pub, sure you could provide table service in a drink only pub if that’s the case.

Maybe only serving soft drinks with the food is the answer.

Stheno · 13-12-2020 02:52PM

mandrake04 wrote: »

I would have thought food was primary reason for going there as they supposed to operating like a restaurant rather than a pub, sure you could provide table service in a drink only pub if that’s the case.

Maybe only serving soft drinks with the food is the answer.

I think one of the issues is people essentially pub crawling

jackboy · 13-12-2020 03:12PM

So, are the restrictions going to level 2 before Christmas?

martingriff · 13-12-2020 03:23PM

jackboy wrote: »

So, are the restrictions going to level 2 before Christmas?

No

harr · 13-12-2020 03:30PM

jackboy wrote: »

So, are the restrictions going to level 2 before Christmas?

Level 3 with some differences, travel outside your own County allowed from the 18th to midnight on the 6th of January. Then back into level 3 from the 7th

igCorcaigh · 13-12-2020 03:45PM

Are house visits currently allowed?

Jim_Hodge · 13-12-2020 03:51PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Are house visits currently allowed?

Christmas changes here
https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/ad569-level-3/

Happydays2020 · 13-12-2020 03:51PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Are house visits currently allowed?

No. But many people have continued to do them in a limited fashion. People are deciding for themselves safe practices. However, NPHET have lost many with the negative messaging.

niallo27 · 13-12-2020 03:53PM

Fair play to the GAA for getting the all irelands run off without much fuss.

is_that_so · 13-12-2020 04:29PM

A piece about the possible influence of autoantibodies on long COVID.

Further tests revealed that the more “autoantibodies” patients had in their blood, the worse their disease. The Covid-19 patients had more antibodies that had turned on them than people with lupus, an autoimmune disease caused by similar wayward antibodies.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/dec/13/autoantibodies-may-be-driving-severe-covid-cases-study-shows

Zebra3 · 13-12-2020 05:00PM

Irish Steve wrote: »

And with the number of people playing the "coot hoor" card over the last few days,

What number is that?

ACitizenErased · 13-12-2020 05:17PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Fair play to the GAA for getting the all irelands run off without much fuss.

Indeed, very smooth and well run season with lots of drama

DebDynamite · 13-12-2020 05:40PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Fair play to the GAA for getting the all irelands run off without much fuss.

Lowest incidence rate in Europe and the players still can’t have a couple of family members attend the finals in a stadium with over 80,000 capacity.

Coillte_Bhoy · 13-12-2020 05:48PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Fair play to the GAA for getting the all irelands run off without much fuss.

Been much smoother than i expected, only one game not played

hynesie08 · 13-12-2020 05:48PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Lowest incidence rate in Europe and the players still can’t have a couple of family members attend the finals in a stadium with over 80,000 capacity.

Probably shouldn't have messed it up for themselves during the club championships then......

Coillte_Bhoy · 13-12-2020 05:51PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Lowest incidence rate in Europe and the players still can’t have a couple of family members attend the finals in a stadium with over 80,000 capacity.

Ya thought an exception might have been made for the finals, few hundred tickets for each team. It would also have been a chance to trial new procedures etc for allowing limited attendances which is going to have to happen at some stage in 2021. Even the U-20's today couldnt wait on for the Senior final, its a bit much imo

oceanman · 13-12-2020 05:52PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Lowest incidence rate in Europe and the players still can’t have a couple of family members attend the finals in a stadium with over 80,000 capacity.

thats one of the reasons we have the lowest incidence rate in europe.

martingriff · 13-12-2020 05:55PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Lowest incidence rate in Europe and the players still can’t have a couple of family members attend the finals in a stadium with over 80,000 capacity.

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Ya thought an exception might have been made for the finals, few hundred tickets for each team. It would also have been a chance to trial new procedures etc for allowing limited attendances which is going to have to happen at some stage in 2021. Even the U-20's today couldnt wait on for the Senior final, its a bit much imo

Were family allowed into soccer finals in the last 2 weeks

is_that_so · 13-12-2020 05:55PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Lowest incidence rate in Europe and the players still can’t have a couple of family members attend the finals in a stadium with over 80,000 capacity.

It was after some county club finals that things really took off a few months ago!

Coillte_Bhoy · 13-12-2020 06:02PM

martingriff wrote: »

Were family allowed into soccer finals in the last 2 weeks

No and i think they should have been, it would only have been a few games, national finals.

Coillte_Bhoy · 13-12-2020 06:03PM

is_that_so wrote: »

It was after some county club finals that things really took off a few months ago!

They were completely different situations in fairness

martingriff · 13-12-2020 06:04PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

No and i think they should have been, it would only have been a few games, national finals.

That be reason of no one at the All Ireland then.

also the camogie finals also

martingriff · 13-12-2020 06:05PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

They were completely different situations in fairness

How so its all GAA

is_that_so · 13-12-2020 06:06PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

They were completely different situations in fairness

While not their fault, it was still very bad optics for the GAA and we got a lot of cases from those events in some parts of the country. They were never going to get any dispensation for this especially as the current public health message is not to congregate.

Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

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