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Wibbs wrote: »

Oh that would certainly be true in the US. Indeed in the US actual Africans who emigrate there do far better than the local African Americans. Then again that would be down to wealth and education too because they're legally entering the US so are passing through the usual hoops of having a job and usually a professional job awaiting them.

Again if we look to ex colonies like the US you get European ghettos, or rather enclaves too. Drop into a major city in America and a local would probably be able to point you towards the Chinese/Italian/Jewish/Black neighbourhoods. And in the same country Asians were treated scarily badly for many generations and in media taking the piss out of and stereotyping Asians lasted longer than the same for African Americans. That said America has long been and remains a very deeply divided culture as far as race goes. For all the hollywood window dressing it's very much still a White Anglo Saxon Protestant culture.

But it can happen pretty fast too. So in Ireland after barely two decades of multiculturalism these trajectories and hierarchies are already in place. Which demographic is most likely to be unemployed in Ireland today? Africans. Which are least likely? Asians and EU people. It's quite scary how consistent and seemingly intractable this pattern is and how it's present in every single multicultural western nation.

Almost worse is how it gets questioned. The racist side just thinks "Blacks what do you expect" the non racist side goes to the "it's racism!" or "nothing to see here". Clearly it's far more complex than that. Like I say Africans in the more developed African nations are very different on the same metrics.

Oh certainly and that has increased in recent years IMHO. There are a few reasons for that and the inefficiency of the social welfare system is certainly one, but I would point to American college style identity politics and the creep of also American cultural attitudes towards the poor, libertarianism and the like. We've simply become less charitable towards the poor over time. We're also quick to forget that few enough Irish people weren't dirt poor even two or three generations ago. I suspect that plugs into a certain insecurity with some anyway. We see this class insecurity with our attitudes to accents over time. At one time Ireland had more elocution teachers than anywhere. It was in church run national schools. To take the edge of the rural and inner city accents, especially for girls(who are more socially mobile in general).

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think you unintentionally are coming out of this looking like the racist.

Perhaps looking at a black child as a victim all the time isn't how to stop racism.

Wibbs wrote: »

No cherry picking required. No specific knowledge required either. Show me any western nation where the same narratives aren't in play. Just one will do. You'll find it's remarkably consistent.

You left this bit out:



Empathy sounds lovely and comforting to those going on about it but it doesn't seem to have done much. It's up there with "thoughts and prayers" and the tragedy flag de jour overlay on Arsebook. How has this empathy made the Chinese diaspora do better on average than the Nigerian? And as I pointed out do better on average than the local White diaspora. Did they get more of this empathy going around? Did the Jewish diaspora? The Vietnamese? The Swedes? The Korean? The Indian? The Malay?

I see you also left out this part:

But no, we'll run with the empty feelz, because that's worked so well for so long.