Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

caveat emptor · 12-12-2020 05:03PM

little bess wrote: »

Do you know which pub, we’re booked to go out tonight?

Good luck with that.

Ohmeha · 12-12-2020 05:30PM

little bess wrote: »

Do you know which pub, we’re booked to go out tonight?

Fowlers

AutoTuning · 12-12-2020 05:47PM

There seems to be absolute chaos at Amsterdam / Schiphol. I really would have though things would be a bit more organised:

https://twitter.com/DrZoeHyde/status/1337760806725808130?s=20

Think I’ll be staying put until I can guarantee that’s not a likely experience at hubs.

lukas8888 · 12-12-2020 05:50PM

I expect by now everyone knows the reasoning behind keeping the majority of pubs closed (can't bring myself to use the W name).But after spending time in a number of food pubs since reopening i feel it's a complete con job.The obligatory meal is hardly ever enforced,and has led to overcrowding in the limited few that are open.This is most evident in small to medium sized towns where only a handful are open.I feel the decision has handed a bonanza to a few and the fairest option would have all open or all shut.Its amazing how the virus has had such a positive financial effect on the few at the expense of the majority.

igCorcaigh · 12-12-2020 05:58PM

lukas8888 wrote: »

I expect by now everyone knows the reasoning behind keeping the majority of pubs closed (can't bring myself to use the W name).But after spending time in a number of food pubs since reopening i feel it's a complete con job.The obligatory meal is hardly ever enforced,and has led to overcrowding in the limited few that are open.This is most evident in small to medium sized towns where only a handful are open.I feel the decision has handed a bonanza to a few and the fairest option would have all open or all shut.Its amazing how the virus has had such a positive financial effect on the few at the expense of the majority.

Yes, and globally speaking, a huge transfer of wealth to the mega companies and billionaires.
I hope there is real political will to reverse this trend once the pandemic is "over".

prunudo · 12-12-2020 06:19PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Yes, and globally speaking, a huge transfer of wealth to the mega companies and billionaires.
I hope there is real political will to reverse this trend once the pandemic is "over".

I think we already know the answer to that.

ACitizenErased · 12-12-2020 06:24PM

248 new cases
3 deaths RIP

ACitizenErased · 12-12-2020 06:25PM

Dr Tony Holohan: “Ireland currently has the LOWEST incidence in Europe and has protected against the significant mortality and severe illness that many European countries, as well as the United States.”

Holohan praises young people for huge efforts:
“Our younger generation led the way, with the incidence in the 19-24 year age group reduced from 432 per 100,000 population to 41 per 100,000 population. This is an enormous achievement.”

Holohan: “We all need to recognise how well our younger generation has reduced their contacts and helped to protect the whole population. We all now need to follow this example in the weeks ahead.”

ACitizenErased · 12-12-2020 06:26PM

SusanC10 · 12-12-2020 06:30PM

Does that mean that today's numbers for Cork are likely to be inaccurate?

blowitupref · 12-12-2020 06:31PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

248 new cases
3 deaths RIP

7 day average is 265 cases per day. Last Saturday it was 293

ACitizenErased · 12-12-2020 06:36PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Does that mean that today's numbers for Cork are likely to be inaccurate?

Nope, Cork's numbers have been consistently low for the past week.

polesheep · 12-12-2020 06:43PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Dr Tony Holohan: “Ireland currently has the LOWEST incidence in Europe and has protected against the significant mortality and severe illness that many European countries, as well as the United States.”

Holohan praises young people for huge efforts:
“Our younger generation led the way, with the incidence in the 19-24 year age group reduced from 432 per 100,000 population to 41 per 100,000 population. This is an enormous achievement.”

Holohan: “We all need to recognise how well our younger generation has reduced their contacts and helped to protect the whole population. We all now need to follow this example in the weeks ahead.”

It's likely most of them have had Covid by now, which is why the numbers are dropping.

Stheno · 12-12-2020 06:43PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Dr Tony Holohan: “Ireland currently has the LOWEST incidence in Europe and has protected against the significant mortality and severe illness that many European countries, as well as the United States.”

Holohan praises young people for huge efforts:
“Our younger generation led the way, with the incidence in the 19-24 year age group reduced from 432 per 100,000 population to 41 per 100,000 population. This is an enormous achievement.”

Holohan: “We all need to recognise how well our younger generation has reduced their contacts and helped to protect the whole population. We all now need to follow this example in the weeks ahead.”

If only the HSE, and HIQA could do the same in their oversight of the care homes

ElJeffe · 12-12-2020 06:45PM

polesheep wrote: »

It's likely most of them have had Covid by now, which is why the numbers are dropping.

Source?

polesheep · 12-12-2020 06:49PM

ElJeffe wrote: »

Source?

Look up the word 'likely'.

spookwoman · 12-12-2020 06:50PM

No Trolley Watch numbers at the weekend

Widdensushi · 12-12-2020 06:51PM

polesheep wrote: »

It's likely most of them have had Covid by now, which is why the numbers are dropping.

No need for the vaccine so, open up now, right!!!

prunudo · 12-12-2020 06:53PM

I dare say it, looks like Donegal are finally getting a handle in their numbers.

Wicklow look to be back on track too, 2 days in a row with less than 5.

Plumbthedepths · 12-12-2020 06:54PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

No need for the vaccine so, open up now, right!!!

Why? Have the elderly and vulnerable stopped being elderly and vulnerable?

polesheep · 12-12-2020 06:58PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

No need for the vaccine so, open up now, right!!!

No. There is an urgent need for a vaccine, just not among that age group. They continue to mix freely, despite what the CMO said and yet the numbers are dropping. It's quite possible that cohort is reaching herd immunity, which, if true, would further bolster the effect of the vaccine.

igCorcaigh · 12-12-2020 07:06PM

I wonder if there is any country or region in the world where the virus has spread completely throughout the local population, or to the 70% to achieve herd immunity.
I would doubt it though.

igCorcaigh · 12-12-2020 07:11PM

Positive swabs (red line) seem to be capturing the recent slight increase better than the cases (blue line).

https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/

Widdensushi · 12-12-2020 07:13PM

polesheep wrote: »

No. There is an urgent need for a vaccine, just not among that age group. They continue to mix freely, despite what the CMO said and yet the numbers are dropping. It's quite possible that cohort is reaching herd immunity, which, if true, would further bolster the effect of the vaccine.

Don't be ridiculous, there was never that many younger people with it, don't let the facts get in the way of pointing the finger though.

polesheep · 12-12-2020 07:13PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I wonder if there is any country or region in the world where the virus has spread completely throughout the local population, or to the 70% to achieve herd immunity.
I would doubt it though.

I would think it very unlikely, however, it may be possible that there is herd immunity within certain cohorts. It would be interesting to do antibody testing on 18-24 year olds to check. Certainly a lot more scientific than simply saying that if the numbers are dropping then they must be reducing their contacts. Especially when cursory observation would seem to contradict that statement.

ElJeffe · 12-12-2020 07:15PM

polesheep wrote: »

Look up the word 'likely'.

So you're making it up.

Grand

BurgundyRose · 12-12-2020 07:15PM

Flicked through the Christmas rte guide and God, its awful. I was able to pick out one movie that I really want to sit down and watch this year - (the greatest showman on Xmas day). I can't see anything else. They could have made more effort to show more movies and some better movies too. Especially with the year that's in it where we are required to go out less and meet less people. Not everyone has sky or Netflix. I wouldnt blame anyone going out and breaking the guidelines of they are relying on rte to keep them entertained this Christmas and new year. Shocking TV schedule and line up for the Christmas.

is_that_so · 12-12-2020 07:15PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I wonder if there is any country or region in the world where the virus has spread completely throughout the local population, or to the 70% to achieve herd immunity.
I would doubt it though.

There are a few localities that got to about 50% but any testing has come up with numbers between about 5% and 20%.

polesheep · 12-12-2020 07:16PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

Don't be ridiculous, there was never that many younger people with it, don't let the facts get in the way of pointing the finger though.

I'm not pointing the finger. I have always advocated that young people should be allowed to get on with their lives. Most of them could have had it by now without even knowing. Without testing them for antibodies I don't know what 'facts' you could be referring to.

polesheep · 12-12-2020 07:17PM

ElJeffe wrote: »

So you're making it up.

Grand

Giving my opinion. It's allowed you know.

Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

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