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Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

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  • #2492
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Arghus wrote: »
    So it follows that you are anti-restrictions because you're not vulnerable or know someone who is vulnerable?

    No, I'm simply open minded. Far too many people have taken extreme positions regarding Covid and aren't open to information that might conflict with their point of view. I try to evaluate all of the available information before I make up my mind.


  • #2493
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Falling victimes to WUM is easier right now.

    Lot of imbeciles creating accounts and WUMing. It's tiresom.

    had a few tonight in the local (is it obvous), quiet, but enjoyable.
    All ok

    but I hear that a recent rumour that the potential cattle treatment has encouraged a risk adverse member to abandon all their risk adverse strategises must mean there is hope!! Hope!


  • #2494
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Falling victimes to WUM is easier right now.

    Lot of imbeciles creating accounts and WUMing. It's tiresom.

    had a few tonight in the local (is it obvous), quiet, but enjoyable.
    All ok

    but I hear that a recent rumour that the potential cattle treatment has encouraged a risk adverse member to abandon all their risk adverse strategises must mean there is hope!! Hope!

    The promise of herd immunity:D


  • #2495
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    God, the pub was good tonight.


  • #2496
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,572 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    polesheep wrote: »
    No, I'm simply open minded. Far too many people have taken extreme positions regarding Covid and aren't open to information that might conflict with their point of view. I try to evaluate all of the available information before I make up my mind.

    Open minded enough to lump everyone who holds a differing view into a nice easily defined catergory.

    Yes, quite open minded.


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  • #2497
    Qiaonasen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Qiaonasen


    Covid-19 has made me delete my facebook. I didn't realise I knew so many conspiracy nut jobs until the pandemic. Holy ****. The antivaxxers. The 5G lads. People thinking the pandemic is fake because they didn't die and don't know anyone who did. Jesus. Humanity is doomed. The anti maskers. People thinking it's a global conspiracy and Tony Holahan is fantasing about taking away their freedom. Jesus. Were people always this retarded? The worst probably the mother who has an asthmatic child who refuses to put a mask on him because he can't oxygen.


  • #2498
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,970 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    So not dramatically different to us in terms of the people affected although the big difference with the North is that their excess deaths are very high at 950 per million which is among the highest reported in Western world, while ours are looking to end several thousand below normal by January.


    What is the source of this excess death data?
    Euromomo does not show any sign of a high excess death rate for NI although there is a modest uplift for Scotland and England.


  • #2499
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    What is the source of this excess death data?
    Euromomo does not show any sign of a high excess death rate for NI although there is a modest uplift for Scotland and England.

    If you read the quotes in the post you quoted.

    Nisra.


  • #2500
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,787 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Qiaonasen wrote: »
    Covid-19 has made me delete my facebook. I didn't realise I knew so many conspiracy nut jobs until the pandemic. Holy ****. The antivaxxers. The 5G lads. People thinking the pandemic is fake because they didn't die and don't know anyone who did. Jesus. Humanity is doomed. The anti maskers. People thinking it's a global conspiracy and Tony Holahan is fantasing about taking away their freedom. Jesus. Were people always this retarded? The worst probably the mother who has an asthmatic child who refuses to put a mask on him because he can't oxygen.

    People who held these sort of views were in the past isolated and did not have a platform to meet other people with the same views or a platform to spread these views. Then social media came along and allowed these people to form groups, spread their views and more importantly (in the negative sense) filters out anything except their views making it one giant echo chamber.

    This is why we have mainstreaming of such nonsense and we have political messes such as Trump/the far right in the US, Brexit in the UK etc.

    Social media is a complete scourge on society for this reason.


  • #2501
    US2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    Kay Burley has had to resign from Sky news after getting caught giving her best friend a hug.


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  • #2502
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    US2 wrote: »
    Kay Burley has had to resign from Sky news after getting caught giving her best friend a hug.

    Proper order. You can't preach to others about how important this all is and then go and be wreckless, unless you work for RTE that is.


  • #2503
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,328 ✭✭✭prunudo


    US2 wrote: »
    Kay Burley has had to resign from Sky news after getting caught giving her best friend a hug.

    Not quite, she has agreed to be off air for 6 months and Beth Rigby off air for 3 months.

    Error of judgement absolutely, sackable offence, nowhere near.


    http://news.sky.com/story/kay-burley-agrees-to-be-off-air-for-six-months-after-covid-19-breach-12157105


  • #2504
    brick tamland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    US2 wrote: »
    Kay Burley has had to resign from Sky news after getting caught giving her best friend a hug.

    6 Months paid gardening leave. Id say she's raging ;).

    They'll have her back on in 6 months, she's important to them.


  • #2505
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    prunudo wrote: »
    Not quite, she has agreed to be off air for 6 months and Beth Rigby off air for 3 months.

    Error of judgement absolutely, sackable offence, nowhere near.


    http://news.sky.com/story/kay-burley-agrees-to-be-off-air-for-six-months-after-covid-19-breach-12157105

    Sky news have often had news stories of other public figures breaking social distance guidelines who were relived of their roles. If they did nothing it would be basically show a lack of consistency and integrity. Better than just apologising which seems to be ok in Ireland. Accountability is important


  • #2506
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Yes but the logical conclusion is those who ARE dying today will be notified at a future date. It is still valid information.
    Sure, but just as those who have been dead up to 3 months or those whose deaths ultimately end up being denotified will become part of future reporting. It is data and useful enough in terms of fatality rates but that we now have a tenth of the deaths we saw in the year is far more important as it shows we are managing things far better.


  • #2507
    brisan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭brisan


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Sky news have often had news stories of other public figures breaking social distance guidelines who were relived of their roles. If they did nothing it would be basically show a lack of consistency and integrity. Better than just apologising which seems to be ok in Ireland. Accountability is important

    As you said
    Actions should have consequences
    Not something parts of Irish society seem to realise should apply to everybody and not just other people


  • #2508
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    US2 wrote: »
    Kay Burley has had to resign from Sky news after getting caught giving her best friend a hug.
    Stepped down for 6 months, not resigned and it's for a bit more than a hug.


  • #2509
    SusanC10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    Anyone know what is going on in Claremorris, Co. Mayo that has such a high incidence of the Virus? Meat factory?


  • #2510
    BeefeaterHat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭BeefeaterHat


    brick tamland wrote: »
    6 Months paid gardening leave. Id say she's raging ;).

    They'll have her back on in 6 months, she's important to them.

    If it was anyone else id feel a bit sorry for them but she's a nasty bit of work. No story could be gory or gruesome enough for her.


  • #2511
    BeefeaterHat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭BeefeaterHat


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Sky news have often had news stories of other public figures breaking social distance guidelines who were relived of their roles. If they did nothing it would be basically show a lack of consistency and integrity. Better than just apologising which seems to be ok in Ireland. Accountability is important

    Yeah Beth Rigby gave Dominic Cummings the third degree that time he did the interview in his garden. Good god how lacking in self awareness are these people?


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  • #2512
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,328 ✭✭✭prunudo


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Sky news have often had news stories of other public figures breaking social distance guidelines who were relived of their roles. If they did nothing it would be basically show a lack of consistency and integrity. Better than just apologising which seems to be ok in Ireland. Accountability is important

    As I said, it was bad judgement and she should be reprimanded over it but people calling on her to loose her job over it is a step to far.


  • #2513
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    prunudo wrote: »
    As I said, it was bad judgement and she should be reprimanded over it but people calling on her to loose her job over it is a step to far.
    I don't buy this "error in judgement" bull tbh. Nobody has forgotten there's a pandemic on, nobody has forgotten the rules.

    In reality it's, "I knowingly disregarded the health guidelines because it suited me to do so at the time", but "error in judgement" sounds more benign, more accidental.

    To be fair though, I do agree that being fired would be a bit. Even six months is a bit harsh. It's not like she's typhoid Mary. She does have a certain level of responsibility because of her position, but at the same time the actual impact of what she did was very small.


  • #2514
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    What is the source of this excess death data?
    Euromomo does not show any sign of a high excess death rate for NI although there is a modest uplift for Scotland and England.

    Yeh I'm not quite sure what the reason for the massive discrepancy is. Euromomo can have long lags before getting updated information from countries but even that does not explain it as Euromomo has been showing this trend for months now while NISRA has shown very high excess deaths in NI for the last few months.


  • #2515
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    BurgundyRose wrote: »
    No, they don't. They are doing their very best.

    It was always in the hand of the people and the population. The more virus in the communities, the more of chances it has of reaching into more vulnerable people like nursing homes.

    It was always it the hands of the population to follow the guidelines to hammer down on infection rates. A lot of people did what was required of them to do and continue to do so. Other people don't care about protecting themselves and their circles and communities from the virus. It was always in the hands of the population to get the infection rates down as low as possible and that was the best way to protect vulnerable people and homes.

    Was it in the hands of the people and the population when the HSE made deals to move non-critical patients out of hospitals and into nursing homes, without testing them for Covid??


  • #2516
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    This has been billed by the Irish Post as Ireland's first ever Covid-free pub. The pub in Aghamore in County Mayo claims to have rapid testing kits for any would-be customer for the price of 10 Euro, after 15 minutes if you test negative you can sit in the pub all day. How long do you think this pub is going to stay open for. :)https://www.irishpost.com/news/irelands-first-ever-covid-free-pub-set-to-open-in-mayo-199682

    He was arrested and the pub shut

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/publican-who-opened-with-covid-testing-is-arrested-39850819.html


  • #2517
    klose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,299 ✭✭✭✭klose


    Stheno wrote: »
    He was arrested and the pub shut

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/publican-who-opened-with-covid-testing-is-arrested-39850819.html

    he said "food does not stop or prevent Covid, but testing does."

    Can't debate that really, of course the accuracy of the way he was testing people would come into question


  • #2518
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stheno wrote: »
    He was arrested and the pub shut

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/publican-who-opened-with-covid-testing-is-arrested-39850819.html

    I heard him on the radio yesterday. What did he think he was going to achieve by going and telling the nation that he was breaking the law? It’s not going to influence a change in the rules. He just came across to me like a belligerent d***


  • #2519
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Best news this year.

    Ivermectin folks.
    It's game over, no more lockdowns, no rush to take a vaccine. Sooner we get this out there the better. It's a cheap drug, been on the market for 40 years, FDA approved. It's a medicine not a vaccine with impressive results when you take it for and prior to treatment.

    No more lockdowns, back.to normal.

    https://www.healio.com/news/primary-care/20201208/this-was-a-gift-to-us-ivermectin-effective-for-covid19-prophylaxis-treatment

    The people are waiting. You have promised much. Any update from you're Brother. Based on the upon post we'll all be back in the boozer in a few weeks


  • #2520
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,328 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Stheno wrote: »
    He was arrested and the pub shut

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/publican-who-opened-with-covid-testing-is-arrested-39850819.html

    Wonder what offence he was arrested for?


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  • #2521
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭growleaves


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I heard him on the radio yesterday. What did he think he was going to achieve by going and telling the nation that he was breaking the law? It’s not going to influence a change in the rules. He just came across to me like a belligerent d***

    He is "heightening the contradictions" as Marxists used to say.

    Assuming the tests he used were accurate, the bureaucratic rules become in this case an end in themselves rather than a way to stop covid from spreading.


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