Your favourite unsolved mystery?

auspicious · 16-10-2020 1:36am

Kingp35 wrote: »

Link about it here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Paulides

Statistically, there is nothing strange about it at all. The fact that above 'author' also wrote about Bigfoot tells you all you need to know.

Not sure about all the fringe stuff but the fact that experienced hikers etc go missing on nondescript trails seems strange. High strangeness lol idk.
Thousands have gone missing in national parks worldwide but the 411 only refers to the US recorded missing since someone deemed a record should be taken.

doughef · 16-10-2020 2:19pm

Kauto0709 wrote: »

https://www.thecut.com/2018/11/the-haunting-of-657-boulevard-in-westfield-new-jersey.html

Crazy story - I know people that live near it and it’s a well known story.

There’s also a podcast which I listened to on it .
Can’t remember what it was called.

Lady Spangles · 12-11-2020 9:08pm

Someone posted about Spring-heeled Jack at the start of this thread (so, 9 years ago now!?) so instead of replying to that I'll post again.

I always thought Spring-heeled Jack was just a stupid story from a Victorian Penny Dreadful, given the era and how strange it is. But no, there was a serious police investigation into it and everything. So yeah, I want to know what that was all about too. Here's a PODCAST about it, if you're interested.

Another one I thought was just a scary story was "Who Put Bella in the Wych Elm?" My grandmother worked in a munitions factory in the area and remembered it, told me about it and I put it down to her trying to scare us kids. Turns out that happened too.

Potential-Monke · 13-11-2020 2:46am

It's a mystery to me, but how am I able to easily attract women into the friendzone, but unable to attract women into bed... Has baffled me so much, I've given up trying to figure it out.

Monolake · 13-11-2020 2:58am

My favourite unsolved mystery is a personal one. A friend and I, both aged about 15 at the time and star watching on a summer night, saw a bright light in the sky moving in very definite triangular shapes and bolting around at a rapid speed. Then it stopped, flashed twice and accelerated away in a straight line at what looked like, from the ground at least, an absolutely astonishing pace.

I am the most cynical and sceptical person imaginable. If it can't be examined, measured or otherwise verified then I don't believe in it. And yet we both saw the same thing that night and to this day, nearly 25 years later, I can't even muster up a layman's explanation of what it was, except that it was definitely, in its most literal sense, an unidentified flying object.

ShineOn7 · 08-12-2020 9:16pm

He's been back in the new a lot recently:

What do you think happened to Trevor Deely?

Beechwoodspark · 08-12-2020 9:46pm

ShineOn7 wrote: »

He's been back in the new a lot recently:

What do you think happened to Trevor Deely?

Don’t know but it’s very odd how this “man in black” in the footage has never come forward

MonkieSocks · 08-12-2020 9:51pm

ShineOn7 wrote: »

He's been back in the new a lot recently:

What do you think happened to Trevor Deely?

20 Years missing today

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 08-12-2020 9:57pm

ShineOn7 wrote: »

He's been back in the new a lot recently:

What do you think happened to Trevor Deely?

Has to be something to do with his Alaska trip, if that's where he went.

Mehaffey1 · 08-12-2020 10:18pm

ShineOn7 wrote: »

He's been back in the new a lot recently:

What do you think happened to Trevor Deely?

Always wonder about his disappearance too.

I personally think he ran into the wrong psycho that night and an attempted mugging, mistaken identity or similar occurred. Fairly certain that there was more than one offender involved and he was bundled into the back of a car and they did a very good job of burying the evidence. Not their first crime.

Mehaffey1 · 08-12-2020 10:21pm

MattS1 wrote: »

Has to be something to do with his Alaska trip, if that's where he went.

Never could put the Alaska trip and his disappearance together. Apparently, the girl he went to visit wasn't all that excited about his trip over. You would've had to have pissed off someone beyond belief or robbed them of thousands for them to travel over and commit murder. Didn't know the lad personally but from friends and family statements seem his was a genuinely nice lad.

barrymanilow · 08-12-2020 10:21pm

Mary Celeste

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 08-12-2020 11:14pm

Mehaffey1 wrote: »

Never could put the Alaska trip and his disappearance together. Apparently, the girl he went to visit wasn't all that excited about his trip over. You would've had to have pissed off someone beyond belief or robbed them of thousands for them to travel over and commit murder. Didn't know the lad personally but from friends and family statements seem his was a genuinely nice lad.

It just seems very coincidental. Maybe he did something else in Alaska or didn't go but his character doesn't show he was into crime at all. All very odd.

08-12-2020 11:39pm

Definitely not related to Alaska. Far easier to go missing over there.

ArnoldJRimmer · 08-12-2020 11:59pm

Gardai have definitely ruled out the trip to Alaska as having anything to do with it. Its a little odd, but not a completely outrageous thing for a young person to do.

I think the most logical theory is that he was in wrong place at the wrong time on his walk home, was attacked, and then taken to another location. There are some nasty scrotes around Dublin at night time, had enough nervous walks home myself when I lived there. Its just horrific that the family have not gotten closure yet

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 09-12-2020 12:04am

ArnoldJRimmer wrote: »

Gardai have definitely ruled out the trip to Alaska as having anything to do with it. Its a little odd, but not a completely outrageous thing for a young person to do.

I think the most logical theory is that he was in wrong place at the wrong time on his walk home, was attacked, and then taken to another location. There are some nasty scrotes around Dublin at night time, had enough nervous walks home myself when I lived there. Its just horrific that the family have not gotten closure yet

Weird that guy's were waiting outside. And that someone followed him. It seems to have been planned. Which brings Alaska into the frame. Nothing else rings a bell.

Day Lewin · 09-12-2020 12:23am

MattS1 wrote: »

Weird that guy's were waiting outside. And that someone followed him. It seems to have been planned. Which brings Alaska into the frame. Nothing else rings a bell.

'Twould be an impressive Alaskan that could plan a walk and a kidnapping, at 4 a.m. along a deserted street in Dublin, many months later.

I think local is a touch more probable!

The area is a traditional red-light district and also at the time there were criminal gangs operating various crime rings - drugs, pimping, extortion - including a possible link to the murder of Sinead Kelly, a sex worker, in the exact same area in 1998 - only eighteen months before Trevor disappeared.

HalloweenJack · 09-12-2020 12:40am

Two Irish cases that have captured my interest recently.

The disappearance of Larry Griffin. Though this seems to have been explained, they never found the body and there's never been admission of what happened.

Fr. Niall Molloy. I would love to know how he ended up dying in those circumstances.

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 09-12-2020 12:40am

Day Lewin wrote: »

'Twould be an impressive Alaskan that could plan a walk and a kidnapping, at 4 a.m. along a deserted street in Dublin, many months later.

I think local is a touch more probable!

The area is a traditional red-light district and also at the time there were criminal gangs operating various crime rings - drugs, pimping, extortion - including a possible link to the murder of Sinead Kelly, a sex worker, in the exact same area in 1998 - only eighteen months before Trevor disappeared.

Not saying it was anything to do with an Alaskan. He may not have even gone there, or went there for a different reason. Obviously if there was a connection, it would to organised crime in Dublin.

punchdrunk · 09-12-2020 12:41am

I don’t think Alaska had anything to do with it.m

I think far more likely was some watched him as he entered the bank and maybe wrongly presumed from that action that he was more senior in the bank and thus was a wealthy soft target (it would seem unusual for low pay-grade workers to be entering the bank at that hour to most people )
maybe Trevor knew he was being followed and entered work hoping to shake whoever was following him?

either way the delay of several days in contacting the Gardai really hamstrung any chance of a decent evidentiary investigation.

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 09-12-2020 12:44am

punchdrunk wrote: »

I don’t think Alaska had anything to do with it.m

I think far more likely was some watched him as he entered the bank and maybe wrongly presumed from that action that he was more senior in the bank and thus was a wealthy soft target (it would seem unusual for low pay-grade workers to be entering the bank at that hour to most people )
maybe Trevor knew he was being followed and entered work hoping to shake whoever was following him?

either way the delay of several days in contacting the Gardai really hamstrung any chance of a decent evidentiary investigation.

But why was there at least one person waiting outside the bank? How did they know he would come back?

mrsdewinter · 09-12-2020 12:47am

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Don’t know but it’s very odd how this “man in black” in the footage has never come forward

I don't know if it's that odd. I believe the mystery man was selling drugs or pimping girls. If the man was part of that lifestyle, there's a chance he has died in the years since then. There's an even better chance he didn't have a great relationship with the gardaí. In his own mind, he'd only chatted to the missing chap for a minute or two in a conversation that went nowhere (TD's body language looks guarded to me), so why wd he bring a world of pain on himself by ringing Garda crime lines? The footage only came out, when? in 2016 or so?

punchdrunk · 09-12-2020 1:17am

MattS1 wrote: »

But why was there at least one person waiting outside the bank? How did they know he would come back?

Well if he’d visibly had a few drinks they maybe surmised that he wasn’t going in to start a days work at that hour? again pimps and dealers are wel used to hanging around

Hamsterchops · 09-12-2020 8:30am

barrymanilow wrote: »

Mary Celeste

Mary (Marie) Celeste

The British brig Dei Gratia was about 400 miles east of the Azores on December 5, 1872, when crew members spotted a ship adrift in the choppy seas. Capt. David Morehouse was taken aback to discover that the deserted vessel was the Marie Celeste. She had left New York City eight days before him and should have already arrived in Genoa, Italy. He changed course to offer help.

Morehouse sent a boarding party to the ship. Upon boarding they discovered the ship's charts had been tossed about, and the crewmen's belongings were still in their quarters. The ship's only lifeboat was missing, and one of its two pumps had been disassembled. Three and a half feet of water was sloshing about in the ship's hold, though the cargo of 1,701 barrels of industrial alcohol was largely intact.
There was a six-month supply of food and water—but not a soul to consume it, for there was nobody aboard the Mary Celeste, now a "ghost ship" the most famous ghost ship in history!

Spooky.

Beechwoodspark · 09-12-2020 9:17am

Another one is the disappearance of Tina satchwell in youghal

Beechwoodspark · 09-12-2020 9:23am

mrsdewinter wrote: »

I don't know if it's that odd. I believe the mystery man was selling drugs or pimping girls. If the man was part of that lifestyle, there's a chance he has died in the years since then. There's an even better chance he didn't have a great relationship with the gardaí. In his own mind, he'd only chatted to the missing chap for a minute or two in a conversation that went nowhere (TD's body language looks guarded to me), so why wd he bring a world of pain on himself by ringing Garda crime lines? The footage only came out, when? in 2016 or so?

The footage was recovered shortly after the disappearance in December 2000.

As far as I remember the family and friends went knocking doors around the area and got the footage of TD walking on Haddington road and then the man following him and gave it to the guards

They were very lucky to get the footage as it was going to be wiped. This was an era where videotapes were used and regularly re recorded over.

There’s a long article on the Irish times site about the disappearance.

Personally I think it’s beyond coincidence that the man appears to be waiting for ages outside the bank then steps out onto the road looking in TDs direction while on a mobile THEN gets to the gate before TD arrives and interacts with him.

Somehow the man in black knew TD was going to pass by and also it appears he knew he was going to the gates of the bank?

Then the video experts are of the view that the same man is seen in the footage from Haddington road. All very odd.

Oink · 09-12-2020 9:44am

God there must the equivalent of a small town buried in all the bogs on this island.

Imagine if one day they announce a full scan of all bogs/fields to a depth of 5meters, using revolutionary new satellite technology. There won’t be a shovel left in Woodies...

khalessi · 09-12-2020 10:49am

Oink wrote: »

God there must the equivalent of a small town buried in all the bogs on this island.

Imagine if one day they announce a full scan of all bogs/fields to a depth of 5meters, using revolutionary new satellite technology. There won’t be a shovel left in Woodies...

Bog bodies are fascinating

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 09-12-2020 11:27am

punchdrunk wrote: »

Well if he’d visibly had a few drinks they maybe surmised that he wasn’t going in to start a days work at that hour? again pimps and dealers are wel used to hanging around

So why do you think they didn't just go after him before they go in? Very odd to have a guy waiting outside for 30mins on the phone who also speaks to him at the gate if it was just a random encounter.

oneilla · 09-12-2020 2:09pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

The footage was recovered shortly after the disappearance in December 2000.

As far as I remember the family and friends went knocking doors around the area and got the footage of TD walking on Haddington road and then the man following him and gave it to the guards

They were very lucky to get the footage as it was going to be wiped. This was an era where videotapes were used and regularly re recorded over.

Yeah that's right, family&friends got the ATM footage from Haddington Rd.

There was also a couple who walked by that camera within 90 seconds as well as someone who was described as being underdressed for the weather (or something to that effect). The couple contacted Guards and said they saw nothing out of the ordinary. A 2001 Irish Independent article mentions the Haddington Rd footage.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

There’s a long article on the Irish times site about the disappearance.

Personally I think it’s beyond coincidence that the man appears to be waiting for ages outside the bank then steps out onto the road looking in TDs direction while on a mobile THEN gets to the gate before TD arrives and interacts with him.

Somehow the man in black knew TD was going to pass by and also it appears he knew he was going to the gates of the bank?

Then the video experts are of the view that the same man is seen in the footage from Haddington road. All very odd.

If I remember correctly Trevor was on the phone to a security guard named Peter to check if the gate was open - Peter had taken in a deliver shortly beforehand and left the chain unlocked. Trevor stops on the footpath out of camera to finish the call. The mystery man could have overheard the call thus knew Trevor was headed to the gate and this allowed him get there first as Trevor had stopped on the path.

Obviously I can't explain why he was at that corner for ~30 and he steps out to look toward Leeson St shortly before Trevor's arrival.

Edit: the Irish Independent article from Feb 2001 is being a paywall now. It and Barry Cummins' book Missing had a few details which weren't rehashed over the past few years with the renewed appeals.

Your favourite unsolved mystery?

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