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Speakerboxx · 08-12-2020 02:40AM

Bambi wrote: »

I do like how everyone is pretending that Kerrys set up is not utterly professional

It certainly wasnt this year loosing to a very poor Cork team.

Cavan_King · 08-12-2020 06:27AM

Bambi wrote: »

I do like how everyone is pretending that Kerrys set up is not utterly professional

How is Kerry’s “set up... professional”? The Kerry chairman is an elected position and the current chairman is an engineer who has his own construction firm.

He is not a full time person dedicated to the role like John Costello.

howiya · 08-12-2020 10:27AM

Cavan_King wrote: »

How is Kerry’s “set up... professional”? The Kerry chairman is an elected position and the current chairman is an engineer who has his own construction firm.

He is not a full time person dedicated to the role like John Costello.

And what does the Dublin chairman do? You're comparing apples and oranges with chairmen and secretaries. Frank Murphy was a full time secretary in Cork since the 70s. County boards having full time employees is not a new thing

ArielAtom · 08-12-2020 11:23AM

The fact that some county boards have been put under investigation due to their spending would suggest that some of them need help. The biggest problem with that is them firstly recognising and then accepting that help. Pride can be a terrible thing.

The Lost Sheep · 08-12-2020 11:25AM

Cavan_King wrote: »

I agree it’s a good thing Dublin have a full time staff member running the county board but why shouldn’t all counties have it? You say “”’more counties should/could look to do it”. Are you aware of how many counties are counting their coffers and struggling financially?

For example, Mickey Graham in Cavan wanted a panel of 40 plus players. It was cut back at the start of this year to just my over 30 because of the cost per player.

And that was at the start of this year. Post Covid, Cavan county board are now saying there are some sponsors that they won’t be able to approach re promised funding as it’s unfair given how their businesses have been hit this year.

The GAA are handing out over ten million in bailouts to different counties each year. Why not employ 32 professionals at a cost of 100k each, 3.2 million, to run the county boards? Chances are they’d save on the bailouts along the line.

Dublin supporters seem to be very defensive when debated about this but people are not always being critical. The Dublin structure has worked so my criticism is of the GAA - why aren’t they rolling it out in all counties?

Cork have had a full time official in Frank Murphy and successor for 30 years. They may be struggling now but how many counties in good times didnt even look to get full time staff in place?
Dublin did most of the work themselves so it isnt near as simple as to say the GAA can replicate it elsewhere

Wildly Boaring · 08-12-2020 11:30AM

Cavan_King wrote: »

How is Kerry’s “set up... professional”? The Kerry chairman is an elected position and the current chairman is an engineer who has his own construction firm.

He is not a full time person dedicated to the role like John Costello.

He has a QS practice in CastleIsland. He has 1 or 2 employees.
Hardly flat out laying tarmac

08-12-2020 02:49PM

As an aside, will Ireland ever win the world cup?

Jaden · 08-12-2020 05:11PM

Deleted User wrote: »

As an aside, will Ireland ever win the world cup?

Yes, in short.

7-10 years after the DCB take over the IRFU. We'll need to sell U2 to pay for it, but worth it in the end.

The_Kew_Tour · 08-12-2020 05:35PM

Cavan_King wrote: »

How is Kerry’s “set up... professional”? The Kerry chairman is an elected position and the current chairman is an engineer who has his own construction firm.

He is not a full time person dedicated to the role like John Costello.

To be fair the likes of Kerry and Mayo are being well looked after. They even get millions from fundraisers in the states.

Plenty of sponsorships. Sadly not getting the rewards they should but again no fear of pennies running out in either at minute

08-12-2020 06:24PM

Jaden wrote: »

Yes, in short.

7-10 years after the DCB take over the IRFU. We'll need to sell U2 to pay for it, but worth it in the end.

Oh I mean in the other garrison game, soccer!

No one expects that we will ever win, as a "small country".

The point I was unsubtly getting at is that everyone is a small country compared to Dublin, with Dublin having between 5 and 18 times the population of other counties.

It's not a funding thing, it's that Dublin have finally capitalised on their largest asset, ie their population, after decades of failing to do so.

I think the gaa, and a lot of Dublin fans, need to be realistic as to what the future can look like here.

(But why aren't the hurlers winning !? Yeah ,again it's failure to capitalise on natural asset. That can change too)

Akesh · 08-12-2020 06:30PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

To be fair the likes of Kerry and Mayo are being well looked after. They even get millions from fundraisers in the states.

Plenty of sponsorships. Sadly not getting the rewards they should but again no fear of pennies running out in either at minute

It's not just about money. It's never been just about money but Dublin receiving more funding is down to the numbers playing GAA in the county.

This isn't rocket science. Dublin have gotten their act together when really this should have happened decades earlier. Dublin is a county of 1.4M, Cavan has 76k in the whole county.

Let's stop patting Dublin on the back for something they should have taken advantage of years before. It's a numbers game and only in the last 15 years have Dublin become in anyway competent considering the major advantage they always had.

Gaelic football is dead and people just need to accept it. It's no shock to anyone except for Dublin GAA, their fans and the GAA themselves that attendances have been in decline for over a decade. Syl Merrins highlighted a lot of the issues back in 2018 and nothing was done thanks to the GAA being centralised in Dublin and John Costello and Croke Park insisting that there is nothing wrong with the game and other counties simply 'need to get their act together'.

The blaming of Kildare, Meath etc. is absolutely nonsense.

All of a sudden John Costello, Jim Gavin etc. are messiahs for beating Peamount United with Bayern Munich. Give me a break. The delusion in this thread is unbelievable.

Cavan_King · 08-12-2020 06:55PM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Cork have had a full time official in Frank Murphy and successor for 30 years. They may be struggling now but how many counties in good times didnt even look to get full time staff in place?
Dublin did most of the work themselves so it isnt near as simple as to say the GAA can replicate it elsewhere

Dublin had the funding to do the work though. You may say all the money is being spent on games development but because Dublin have that money for games development, it means they don't need to siphon it from other areas like other counties do.

I'm not for splitting up Dublin or any of the other items put forward. Dublin were given money and they used it to create a great advantage, on top of other advantages they have - their location, their players would rarely move to other counties, their population etc.

Now I think the GAA need to at least try to replicate it in other counties. I believe they've spent 15 to 16 million bailing out different county boards.

Why not put 32 commercial individuals in place, one for each county, to start overseeing finance, advertising, promotion etc. At a cost of even 100k each, that's 3.2 million and is cheaper than what they are spending bailing counties out.

There's no point waiting for mismanagement and counties to be millions in debt before stepping in like is currently done.

The fact is a county setup is now a multi million pound business and people with proper business acumen need to be in charge. Not some lad that got elected because he's a great GAA stalwart in the area.

kilns · 08-12-2020 07:26PM

Cavan_King wrote: »

Dublin had the funding to do the work though. You may say all the money is being spent on games development but because Dublin have that money for games development, it means they don't need to siphon it from other areas like other counties do.

I'm not for splitting up Dublin or any of the other items put forward. Dublin were given money and they used it to create a great advantage, on top of other advantages they have - their location, their players would rarely move to other counties, their population etc.

Now I think the GAA need to at least try to replicate it in other counties. I believe they've spent 15 to 16 million bailing out different county boards.

Why not put 32 commercial individuals in place, one for each county, to start overseeing finance, advertising, promotion etc. At a cost of even 100k each, that's 3.2 million and is cheaper than what they are spending bailing counties out.

There's no point waiting for mismanagement and counties to be millions in debt before stepping in like is currently done.

The fact is a county setup is now a multi million pound business and people with proper business acumen need to be in charge. Not some lad that got elected because he's a great GAA stalwart in the area.

The problem is local county politics, imagining appointing an outsider to run the Galway County Board for example. The representatives who have been going to county board meetings for years and voting will not like it accept the change and would make their job impossible. It's the problem when you have 32 different entities running their own show

dunnerc · 08-12-2020 07:37PM

Akesh wrote: »

It's not just about money. It's never been just about money but Dublin receiving more funding is down to the numbers playing GAA in the county.

This isn't rocket science. Dublin have gotten their act together when really this should have happened decades earlier. Dublin is a county of 1.4M, Cavan has 76k in the whole county.

Let's stop patting Dublin on the back for something they should have taken advantage of years before. It's a numbers game and only in the last 15 years have Dublin become in anyway competent considering the major advantage they always had.

Gaelic football is dead and people just need to accept it. It's no shock to anyone except for Dublin GAA, their fans and the GAA themselves that attendances have been in decline for over a decade. Syl Merrins highlighted a lot of the issues back in 2018 and nothing was done thanks to the GAA being centralised in Dublin and John Costello and Croke Park insisting that there is nothing wrong with the game and other counties simply 'need to get their act together'.

The blaming of Kildare, Meath etc. is absolutely nonsense.

All of a sudden John Costello, Jim Gavin etc. are messiahs for beating Peamount United with Bayern Munich. Give me a break. The delusion in this thread is unbelievable.

Your right Gaelic football is dead , its not Kildare or Meaths fault
Totally Dublins , John Costelloes . Jim Gavins and Croke Parks fault
Take a break now , you deserve it .

gaffer91 · 08-12-2020 09:47PM

dunnerc wrote: »

Your right Gaelic football is dead , its not Kildare or Meaths fault
Totally Dublins , John Costelloes . Jim Gavins and Croke Parks fault
Take a break now , you deserve it .

It's not Dublin's or Jim Gavin's fault either. The fault lies with the GAA as an organisation for allowing this crazy situation to develop. No team would refuse a legal leg-up on others. When the GAA, AIG and other sponsors offer Dublin bags of cash, literally tens of millions more than other counties, of course Dublin will say yes. Or when the semi-final and finals are offered to be played in your home ground year after year, of course a team will not refuse.

We know Dublin are unfairly advantaged because of their population, funding, home pitch advantage and other things. But it's on the GAA to deal with this issue by splitting Dublin (not giving them ever more funding) not anyone else.

Akesh · 08-12-2020 10:08PM

dunnerc wrote: »

Your right Gaelic football is dead , its not Kildare or Meaths fault
Totally Dublins , John Costelloes . Jim Gavins and Croke Parks fault
Take a break now , you deserve it .

As I said, the level of delusion in this thread is unbelievable

Yes, you're correct Dublin just work harder than everyone else. Nothing to do with the 1m more people in the county. It's all the messiahs doing, great work Jim Gavin and John Costello. Truly remarkable achievement in modern GAA.

There is no point in this argument as there is a complete delusion within Dublin over what is happening to Gaelic Football in Ireland.

Dyr · 08-12-2020 10:16PM

gaffer91 wrote: »

It's not Dublin's or Jim Gavin's fault either. The fault lies with the GAA as an organisation for allowing this crazy situation to develop. No team would refuse a legal leg-up on others. When the GAA, AIG and other sponsors offer Dublin bags of cash, literally tens of millions more than other counties, of course Dublin will say yes. Or when the semi-final and finals are offered to be played in your home ground year after year, of course a team will not refuse.

Biggest sponsor in the GAA by far is Kerry group, have been sponsoring Kerry since the 90s and will continue to do so as long as they exist, but we were saying something about bags of cash I believe?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/arid-30947162.html#:~:text=One%20can%20safely%20venture%20that,up%20jersey%20sponsorship%20for%20business.

ArielAtom · 08-12-2020 10:24PM

Akesh wrote: »

It's not just about money. It's never been just about money but Dublin receiving more funding is down to the numbers playing GAA in the county.

This isn't rocket science. Dublin have gotten their act together when really this should have happened decades earlier. Dublin is a county of 1.4M, Cavan has 76k in the whole county.

Let's stop patting Dublin on the back for something they should have taken advantage of years before. It's a numbers game and only in the last 15 years have Dublin become in anyway competent considering the major advantage they always had.

Gaelic football is dead and people just need to accept it. It's no shock to anyone except for Dublin GAA, their fans and the GAA themselves that attendances have been in decline for over a decade. Syl Merrins highlighted a lot of the issues back in 2018 and nothing was done thanks to the GAA being centralised in Dublin and John Costello and Croke Park insisting that there is nothing wrong with the game and other counties simply 'need to get their act together'.

The blaming of Kildare, Meath etc. is absolutely nonsense.

All of a sudden John Costello, Jim Gavin etc. are messiahs for beating Peamount United with Bayern Munich. Give me a break. The delusion in this thread is unbelievable.

I suggest you look back through the many threads that have dealt with this and review the figures posted.

You will of course get the requisite thanks from the usual suspects. It’s a given.

gaffer91 · 08-12-2020 10:25PM

Bambi wrote: »

Biggest sponsor in the GAA by far is Kerry group, have been sponsoring Kerry since the 90s and will continue to do so as long as they exist, but we were saying something about bags of cash I believe?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/arid-30947162.html#:~:text=One%20can%20safely%20venture%20that,up%20jersey%20sponsorship%20for%20business.

Dublin get much more from their partners. And this is before we even start on the money from the Irish sports council and from the GAA which has been widely shared many times. But I agree that all sponsorship should be centrally pooled and shared more equally/proportionately between all counties.

But it's not just one advantage in isolation. For instance, Dublin's population advantage was always ridiculous but that was only really grounds for a two way split. If Dublin's only advantage was playing all their games in Croke park, then we could just take them out of there. If Dublin had a normal population, played away occasionally but had received only two or three years of excess funding from AIG and the GAA then we could equalise things and leave it at that.

But instead we have a situation where Dublin have a crazy population advantage AND have been massively overfunded by the GAA and their sponsors for over 15 years AND play their finals and semi-finals at their home stadium. This isn't even an exhaustive list of the unfair advantages they have on other counties. Ten years ago, a two way split and a funding equalisation would maybe have been enough. But that horse has bolted now and we've had a decade of ever building advantage. So they need to be split into four (and possibly more) teams to try and level the playing field, save the inter-county game and help all counties.

The Lost Sheep · 08-12-2020 10:40PM

gaffer91 wrote: »

Dublin get much more from their partners. And this is before we even start on the money from the Irish sports council and from the GAA which has been widely shared many times. But I agree that all sponsorship should be centrally pooled and shared more equally/proportionately between all counties.

But it's not just one advantage in isolation. For instance, Dublin's population advantage was always ridiculous but that was only really grounds for a two way split. If Dublin's only advantage was playing all their games in Croke park, then we could just take them out of there. If Dublin had a normal population, played away occasionally but had received only two or three years of excess funding from AIG and the GAA then we could equalise things and leave it at that.

But instead we have a situation where Dublin have a crazy population advantage AND have been massively overfunded by the GAA and their sponsors for over 15 years AND play their finals and semi-finals at their home stadium. This isn't even an exhaustive list of the unfair advantages they have on other counties. Ten years ago, a two way split and a funding equalisation would maybe have been enough. But that horse has bolted now and we've had a decade of ever building advantage. So they need to be split into four (and possibly more) teams to try and level the playing field, save the inter-county game and help all counties.

What exactly is a normal population by the way?
You cant just pool all sponsorship from every inter county team as that disadvantages many counties and artificially boosts many other counties. By all means help smaller counties with some pooling of sponsorships but it cant be all sponsorship

Talking about splits to 4 or more teams benefits very few. Completely hampers gaelic in Dublin. One of the major benefits/successes is identity within the GAA. Artifically creating teams that have no history is not good for anyone.

ArielAtom · 08-12-2020 10:49PM

gaffer91 wrote: »

Dublin get much more from their partners. And this is before we even start on the money from the Irish sports council and from the GAA which has been widely shared many times. But I agree that all sponsorship should be centrally pooled and shared more equally/proportionately between all counties.

But it's not just one advantage in isolation. For instance, Dublin's population advantage was always ridiculous but that was only really grounds for a two way split. If Dublin's only advantage was playing all their games in Croke park, then we could just take them out of there. If Dublin had a normal population, played away occasionally but had received only two or three years of excess funding from AIG and the GAA then we could equalise things and leave it at that.

But instead we have a situation where Dublin have a crazy population advantage AND have been massively overfunded by the GAA and their sponsors for over 15 years AND play their finals and semi-finals at their home stadium. This isn't even an exhaustive list of the unfair advantages they have on other counties. Ten years ago, a two way split and a funding equalisation would maybe have been enough. But that horse has bolted now and we've had a decade of ever building advantage. So they need to be split into four (and possibly more) teams to try and level the playing field, save the inter-county game and help all counties.

So having an large sponsorship pot it the reason?

gaffer91 · 08-12-2020 11:25PM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

What exactly is a normal population by the way?

It's open to interpretation. The mean is obviously the mean but two, or maybe even three standard deviations away from that could be arguably acceptable. Dublin are at over four and almost five standard deviations away from average. You can't say that about any other county. So they are very far from normal.

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

You cant just pool all sponsorship from every inter county team as that disadvantages many counties and artificially boosts many other counties. By all means help smaller counties with some pooling of sponsorships but it cant be all sponsorship

There's nothing artificial about it. Better that all counties benefit than just a chosen few. And yes, it should be 100%

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Talking about splits to 4 or more teams benefits very few. Completely hampers gaelic in Dublin. One of the major benefits/successes is identity within the GAA. Artifically creating teams that have no history is not good for anyone.

It benefits all counties. Splitting Dublin literally helps every single county, including Dublin.

Not splitting Dublin will result in the death of the inter-county game. Splitting them into at least four is the only hope of saving it. And it even helps Dublin by letting more of their excellent club players play at the highest level, just not concentrated in a single team. And of course Dublin players will also benefit from the inter-county game not dying a death.

gaffer91 · 08-12-2020 11:26PM

ArielAtom wrote: »

So having an large sponsorship pot it the reason?

There are multiple reasons for Dublin's success but some of the main ones are the combination, scale, nature and duration of the advantages of huge population, home pitch advantage and decades of funding. This combination of unfair advantages is unique to Dublin.

The Lost Sheep · 08-12-2020 11:47PM

gaffer91 wrote: »

It's open to interpretation. The mean is obviously the mean but two, or maybe even three standard deviations away from that could be arguably acceptable. Dublin are at over four and almost five standard deviations away from average. You can't say that about any other county. So they are very far from normal

You cant have every team sorted by population like that. Name any sport that does that?
We dont do it in international sport and you can have andorra, san marino taking on france, germany in international soccer.

There's nothing artificial about it. Better that all counties benefit than just a chosen few. And yes, it should be 100%

Yes there is. Pooling all sponsorships artificially boosts some teams income. Do division 4 teams get near what division 1 teams will get in sponsorship. No they dont.

It benefits all counties. Splitting Dublin literally helps every single county, including Dublin.

No it doesnt. Dublin being split will have zero impact on Wicklow, Louth, Clare, Waterford, Leitrim, Antrim, Carlow, Fermanagh and many others.

Not splitting Dublin will result in the death of the inter-county game. Splitting them into at least four is the only hope of saving it. And it even helps Dublin by letting more of their excellent club players play at the highest level, just not concentrated in a single team. And of course Dublin players will also benefit from the inter-county game not dying a death.

You keep saying the inter county game will die. It wont. Do you want these changes to happen at club level as well?
There would be no identity, affiliation with these sides. There would just be artificial teams with no home venues, no history. The GAA is all about identity, heritage and history. Doing this doesnt tie in with any of that.

gaffer91 · 09-12-2020 12:12AM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

You cant have every team sorted by population like that. Name any sport that does that?
.

It won't be fully sorted by population. There will still be some leeway between counties, but not a single glaring outlier in a sport where transfers are banned.

Again, pre- financial doping I was happy for a two way split, like the GAA suggested in the early 2000s, but now it will unfortunately be more.

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

We dont do it in international sport and you can have andorra, san marino taking on france, germany in international soccer.

A fairer analogy would be a competition where Manchester United are put in League 2, play all their games at home, and then get annoyed when people claim it is unfair.

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Yes there is. Pooling all sponsorships artificially boosts some teams income. Do division 4 teams get near what division 1 teams will get in sponsorship. No they dont.
.

It doesn't matter who raises the money. It's an amateur community and sporting organisation. Everyone should reap the benefits, not just a handful of counties. Not pooling sponsorships artificially boosts some team's incomes (e.g Dublin's)

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

No it doesnt. Dublin being split will have zero impact on Wicklow, Louth, Clare, Waterford, Leitrim, Antrim, Carlow, Fermanagh and many others.

Splitting Dublin helps all those counties by ensuring the survival of the competition.

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

You keep saying the inter county game will die. It wont.

It will die. It currently is in the process of dying. It will go the way of the Railway Cup/ Inter-pros without a split of Dublin. Everyone can see that the unfair advantages they have mean their current dominance is endless.

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

There would be no identity, affiliation with these sides. There would just be artificial teams with no home venues, no history. The GAA is all about identity, heritage and history. Doing this doesnt tie in with any of that.

There will still be identity as club players will be playing for Dublin subdivisions.

Not splitting Dublin will result in the death of identity, heritage and history of every county (including Dublin) as the game dies at inter-county level, so if you care about those things you should be 100% behind a split.

beggars_bush · 09-12-2020 12:20AM

ArielAtom wrote: »

The fact that some county boards have been put under investigation due to their spending would suggest that some of them need help. The biggest problem with that is them firstly recognising and then accepting that help. Pride can be a terrible thing.

Most counties have debts due to financing structural development.
Wheras Dublin have spent feck all on their ground or on training facilities
Choosing instead to piggyback on the stadium funded by all other counties and the tax payer
and training facilities funded by the tax payer - 3rd level colleges.

The Lost Sheep · 09-12-2020 12:34AM

gaffer91 wrote: »

It won't be fully sorted by population. There will still be some leeway between counties, but not a single glaring outlier in a sport where transfers are banned.

Name any sport that has done as you are suggesting?

Again, pre- financial doping I was happy for a two way split, like the GAA suggested in the early 2000s, but now it will unfortunately be more.

No split should happen. Pre this so called financial doping how many titles had Dublin actually won?

A fairer analogy would be a competition where Manchester United are put in League 2, play all their games at home, and then get annoyed when people claim it is unfair.

It isnt. Man United if in League 2 would have dropped based on their standing on the pitch. Countless teams have went from top divisions in soccer down the divisions based on their ability. Dublin should play more championship games outside of Croke Park and Dublin but that was in power of counties on many occasions who chose not to let it happen.

It doesn't matter who raises the money. It's an amateur community and sporting organisation. Everyone should reap the benefits, not just a handful of counties. Not pooling sponsorships artificially boosts some team's incomes (e.g Dublin's)

Splitting Dublin helps all those counties by ensuring the survival of the competition.

The competition isnt dying. It is an amatuer organisation but pooling all resources just leads to less money in long term. Why would AIG or Kerry Group give 4million to their county if that money isnt going towards who they are sponsoring. That makes no sense. How is Dublin or Kerrys income artificially boosted. Dublin being split primarily and overwhelmingly helps the counties who are regularly in finals and all ireland semi finals and does nothing for a lot of counties.

There will still be identity as club players will be playing for Dublin subdivisions.

It will be completely artificial. There would be no affiliation with a made up team which has no history, no past or anything else beyond being set up in 202x

Not splitting Dublin will result in the death of identity, heritage and history of every county (including Dublin) as the game dies at inter-county level, so if you care about those things you should be 100% behind a split.

No it wont. Most counties have never challenged for all irelands. Most counties see a provincial title as the height of success and anything after as a bonus.

The Lost Sheep · 09-12-2020 12:37AM

beggars_bush wrote: »

Most counties have debts due to financing structural development.
Wheras Dublin have spent feck all on their ground or on training facilities
Choosing instead to piggyback on the stadium funded by all other counties and the tax payer
and training facilities funded by the tax payer - 3rd level colleges.

Why would you build a major training facility when you dont have to? Limerick and many other counties with 3rd level institutes could have chosen to work more with those institutions but didnt.

The_Kew_Tour · 09-12-2020 05:04AM

Akesh wrote: »

It's not just about money. It's never been just about money but Dublin receiving more funding is down to the numbers playing GAA in the county.

This isn't rocket science. Dublin have gotten their act together when really this should have happened decades earlier. Dublin is a county of 1.4M, Cavan has 76k in the whole county.

Let's stop patting Dublin on the back for something they should have taken advantage of years before. It's a numbers game and only in the last 15 years have Dublin become in anyway competent considering the major advantage they always had.

Gaelic football is dead and people just need to accept it. It's no shock to anyone except for Dublin GAA, their fans and the GAA themselves that attendances have been in decline for over a decade. Syl Merrins highlighted a lot of the issues back in 2018 and nothing was done thanks to the GAA being centralised in Dublin and John Costello and Croke Park insisting that there is nothing wrong with the game and other counties simply 'need to get their act together'.

The blaming of Kildare, Meath etc. is absolutely nonsense.

All of a sudden John Costello, Jim Gavin etc. are messiahs for beating Peamount United with Bayern Munich. Give me a break. The delusion in this thread is unbelievable.

So how much would you split Dublin into?

From your post it's at least 5, maybe few more?

Mehapoy · 09-12-2020 05:52AM

gaffer91 wrote: »

It's not Dublin's or Jim Gavin's fault either. The fault lies with the GAA as an organisation for allowing this crazy situation to develop. No team would refuse a legal leg-up on others. When the GAA, AIG and other sponsors offer Dublin bags of cash, literally tens of millions more than other counties, of course Dublin will say yes. Or when the semi-final and finals are offered to be played in your home ground year after year, of course a team will not refuse.

We know Dublin are unfairly advantaged because of their population, funding, home pitch advantage and other things. But it's on the GAA to deal with this issue by splitting Dublin (not giving them ever more funding) not anyone else.

Everything else may be true but this Croker being Dublin's home ground is ridiculous stuff, you'd think the GAA only started using Croke Park for finals and semi finals in the last 10 years! Sure Dublin should be playing Leinster games outside CP more, provided the expected crowd is approved for the ground, but semi finals and finals are for Croker.
Think one measure that should be implemented is counties sponsorship should be shared into a central pot to be shared equally among all inter county squads.

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