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Boundary Extension for City?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭azimuth17


    The only point to make at this stage, is that the piece of land at issue and recommended by the Boundary Commission for transfer to Waterford city, is the historic Northern Liberty of Waterford city which was administered by the city for hundreds of years. It will eventually happen, but should be given with good grace as a positive contribution to Waterford city by Kilkenny Co Co, if such a thing is possible,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 772 ✭✭✭Dunmoreroader


    https://soundcloud.com/kclr96fm/green-party-cllr-jody-power-waterford-extending-its-boundary-into-south-kilkenny-on-the-way-it-is

    Jesus wept, the level of discourse on this topic has not improved in the intervening years. Is Sue Nunn an actual journalist? "I'm joined on the line from eeeh, eeeh,...Cheekpoint?....I think"(Sue, it's a village in your neighbouring county, he's not phoning you from Basra) It goes downhill from there.."uproar in South Kilkenny", blah blah, "GAA", blah blah. She can't even get the name of the local authority right referring to Waterford County Council repeatedly.
    It's like every time this issue gets raised again (which it will until it gets done) the debate defaults to pure ignorance again despite much sensible information on the pros and cons out there to debate on, like try reading the boundary commission report Sue.
    Sun Nunn: "Everybody is against this including the GAA, including business" Bullsh1t - most of the businesses in the area recommended to be moved would welcome this. As for this figure of over 20,000 locals against this - more bullsh1t. There were just under 20,000 submissions in total of which approx. 300 came from the area chosen to be moved which has a population of 4,500.
    This fake news that the vast majority of people affected in the actual area actually chosen to change are vehemently against this needs to be called out.
    It didn't help that Cllr. Jody Power didn't raise this, he doesn't seem to be on top of his brief despite being the one to raise this at Council again.
    I wouldn't have expected much better from KCLR but it doesn't seem to be debated any better on WLR as Damien Tiernan's recent discussion with the union guy bears out.
    This is an important topic for the city and region. Can local journalists(I use the term advisedly) not debate and discuss this in their papers and on their radio stations without defaulting to lazy trite uninformed 3rd-hand ****e arguements?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    These British borders are such trouble! Would 2021 be a good year to consider thier value as they stand? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭azimuth17


    In all the verbiage about this issue from people in the media who know nothing about it I wonder would Sue Nunn or Damien Tiernan know the piece of land to be transferred as mentioned in my post of Dec 2nd? Most of the opposition comes from and came from Kilkenny "city" town. The constant reference to Waterford County Council is simply because Kilkenny only has a county council now. They cannot understand how Waterford could have a city and county council when they do not for that would be to believe that Waterford city was different to their Kilkenny "city".

    Before the Waterford city and county amalgamation both Waterford local authorities were independent county councils. The county of the City of Waterford and Waterford county council. That was not the situation in Kilkenny where Kilkenny Borough (like Wexford, Clonmel etc) was a subsidiary part of Kilkenny co co. I am not trying to offend anyone, but also am not sure that trying to inject sensible points into this discussion will ever get anywhere. Kilkenny "city" is against anything which might add to the status of Waterford city. Its sad. Nevertheless, the issue will eventually be solved and the extension will happen. A sensible Minister for the Environment will see to that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 772 ✭✭✭Dunmoreroader


    azimuth17 wrote: »
    In all the verbiage about this issue from people in the media who know nothing about it I wonder would Sue Nunn or Damien Tiernan know the piece of land to be transferred as mentioned in my post of Dec 2nd? Most of the opposition comes from and came from Kilkenny "city" town. The constant reference to Waterford County Council is simply because Kilkenny only has a county council now. They cannot understand how Waterford could have a city and county council when they do not for that would be to believe that Waterford city was different to their Kilkenny "city".

    Before the Waterford city and county amalgamation both Waterford local authorities were independent county councils. The county of the City of Waterford and Waterford county council. That was not the situation in Kilkenny where Kilkenny Borough (like Wexford, Clonmel etc) was a subsidiary part of Kilkenny co co. I am not trying to offend anyone, but also am not sure that trying to inject sensible points into this discussion will ever get anywhere. Kilkenny "city" is against anything which might add to the status of Waterford city. Its sad. Nevertheless, the issue will eventually be solved and the extension will happen. A sensible Minister for the Environment will see to that.


    Eamonn Ryan....sensible?.....Hmmm....:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,794 ✭✭✭Bards


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    Eamonn Ryan....sensible?.....Hmmm....:rolleyes:

    Just tell him that we will promise to install window boxes and grow lettuce in the new Waterford Suburb should he grant the extension


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Well you joke but if the extension area were indeed sold on the promise of being built on cutting edge technologies for power creation and consumption and would be a showcase for the work of WIT research then maybe Mr Ryan would look kindly upon a request! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭Dum_Dum


    Well you joke but if the extension area were indeed sold on the promise of being built on cutting edge technologies for power creation and consumption and would be a showcase for the work of WIT research then maybe Mr Ryan would look kindly upon a request! :D


    Agreed, why not? Well insulated, low energy, higher density living - 'walkable' with well managed public spaces. A new kind of urbanism. It's about the right scale too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭spaceCreated


    Well you joke but if the extension area were indeed sold on the promise of being built on cutting edge technologies for power creation and consumption and would be a showcase for the work of WIT research then maybe Mr Ryan would look kindly upon a request! :D

    I'd say he finds it difficult to look past the pale tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭BBM77


    https://www.wlrfm.com/news/kilkenny-council-owe-waterfords-fire-service-over-half-a-million-euro-282042

    What the actual f*%$? Why the hell are we paying for fire services in South Kilkenny? If they are not going to pay for it end the agreement.



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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal



    Yeah, you should end it, to hell people in an emergency, sure whats the worst that can happen!

    Priority is people's lives but sure don't worry about that 😏

    One thing to note in the news report is "Councillor Dónal Barry says what's owed should be charged." If you read the story it explains that an audit identified a shortfall that is not being recouped by Waterford.

    So essentually Waterford hasn't actually charged Kilkenny cc for the amount and instead they've allowed the shortfall to build up. There's nothing to say Kilkenny won't pay and I'm sure it'll be all sorted.

    I'd be more concerned about why Waterford CC spent up to €740,000 clearing plastic waste from land owned by Councillor Declan Doocey's company (it appears he owns a farm plastic collection company). Every penny should be recouped from him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭BBM77


    Kilkenny are more than willing to toss our lives aside with things like 24 hr Cardiac care. So lives only matter when it is theirs apparently. Just find it irritating that Kilkenny CC will do everything to block a boundary extension in an area they clearly don’t give a dam about. Then won’t provide services expecting Waterford to do so and not even fully paying for the services.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    You've clearly not read the story,

    Hard for Kilkenny to pay when Waterford hasn't charged for it and Waterford only identified the miss after an audit.

    Sounds like bad book keeping by Waterford to be honest

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