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Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

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  • #1712
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,898 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    weldoninhio wrote:
    You can wear a seatbelt, drive perfectly, and still have an idiot drive into you. You never know what’s going to happen.
    It's a lot less likely though, same as wearing a mask, social distancing and washing your hands makes it a lot less likely you'll get covid-19.


  • #1713
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,898 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    weldoninhio wrote:
    You can wear a seatbelt, drive perfectly, and still have an idiot drive into you. You never know what’s going to happen.
    It's a lot less likely though, same as wearing a mask, social distancing and washing your hands makes it a lot less likely you'll get covid-19.


  • #1714
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It's a lot less likely though, same as wearing a mask, social distancing and washing your hands makes it a lot less likely you'll get covid-19.

    Hold on. That’s patent nonsense. How does me wearing a seatbelt and driving perfectly make it less likely for an idiot to drive into me? Do idiots only crash into people not wearing seatbelts? Do they follow drivers and decide to crash into bad ones??

    Or are they just idiots who don’t pay attention/drive under the influence and hit anyone at random.


  • #1715
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,594 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Hold on. That’s patent nonsense. How does me wearing a seatbelt and driving perfectly make it less likely for an idiot to drive into me? Do idiots only crash into people not wearing seatbelts? Do they follow drivers and decide to crash into bad ones??

    Or are they just idiots who don’t pay attention/drive under the influence and hit anyone at random.

    With the safety precautions the repercussions of any collision are greatly different. Hence why they are in place.


  • #1716
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,898 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    weldoninhio wrote:
    Hold on. That’s patent nonsense. How does me wearing a seatbelt and driving perfectly make it less likely for an idiot to drive into me? Do idiots only crash into people not wearing seatbelts? Do they follow drivers and decide to crash into bad ones??

    Or are they just idiots who don’t pay attention/drive under the influence and hit anyone at random.
    Sorry, I was talking about likelyhood of surviving it.


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  • #1717
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    ElTel wrote: »
    Perhaps his illness is causing fever.
    Could an antibody test be used instead? Your not infectious if you've antibodies, right?
    If he is still having a fever, he would not be retested. In that situation, he would still be in hospital because of the fever and would not be out of isolation yet, but it’s not because he has not received a not detected result.

    Antibody testing would not be helpful. IgM antibodies versus IgG antibodies if present would distinguish between a current versus a previous infection but if still have a fever after a recent positive swab, he would still be isolated. And should also be assessed for other sources/reasons for the prolonged fever.

    A viral culture could potentially be used to distinguish if he is still actively infectious but I have only heard of this being done in the context of research. And if he still has other medical issues and/or a fever, he would not be sent back to a nursing home anyway so it would make no difference to his discharge although it could help re isolation decisions.

    It should not be that he remains in hospital because hospital and nursing home are waiting for negative/not detected swab, but there must be some other reason why he has not been transferred back to nursing home.


  • #1718
    Wombatman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    pc7 wrote: »
    I can totally see why the roaring 20’s happened after 1918! I can’t wait until this sh1t show is over. Going to holiday, eat out, hug family and friends again, bring it on!!!

    Have the same intentions but will most likely revert back to my cyclical, misanthropic cnut ways, after a couple of weeks.


  • #1719
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    They just don't care. Totally agree on that one.

    Or they do care and are behaving exactly in line with what is allowed under the current guidelines. Or do you think that everyone who is meeting people doesn’t care?

    I’m very much looking forward to pizza and pints with friends next week, but do not intend to break any rules


  • #1720
    BeefeaterHat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭BeefeaterHat


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I've acted sensibly all along so I've every right to say what I do.

    You admitted yourself to breaking the rules when it suits you. You also said that you're not economically affected by the lockdowns so you don't know how or why anyone else can be. You're the Lionel Messi of hypocrites and double standards.


  • #1721
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Or they do care and are behaving exactly in line with what is allowed under the current guidelines. Or do you think that everyone who is meeting people doesn’t care?

    I’m very much looking forward to pizza and pints with friends next week, but do not intend to break any rules

    And some people don't care. You heard the stories. Care worker going into work despite her son testing positive. Coming home from holidays and not self isolating.


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  • #1722
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    And some people don't care. You heard the stories. Care worker going into work despite her son testing positive. Coming home from holidays and not self isolating.

    And yet the vast vast majority of people have been compliant. And yet still vilified for doing what is not risky.

    A good chunk of us will have the vaccine by March and things will start to normalise then.


  • #1723
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    BeefeaterHat wrote: »
    You admitted yourself to breaking the rules when it suits you. You also said that you're not economically affected by the lockdowns so you don't know how or why anyone else can be. You're the Lionel Messi of hypocrites and double standards.

    In all fairness, I think that poster said they went out of the way to walk their dogs. The restrictions were brought in because people are thick, and travelling down the country and mixing, into shops, restaurants, house parties, I won't say bars because they weren't open.

    Along comes the second lockdown and you can travel anywhere to visit a grave, which normally doesn't involve a huge gathering and a p!ss up, so makes sense.

    They can travel outside the allowed limit to go to a shop and mix with people in the shop. But can't walk their dogs on their own outside the allowed limit. The whole thing is stupid.


  • #1724
    Ireland2020
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 214 ✭✭Ireland2020


    Why have we all these rules, when the car park in the retail park and shopping centre in Dundalk is full of cars with Northern reg plates.

    Why are the Gardaí not doing something about it? A simple presence at the car park entrance and turn them away would be a start


  • #1725
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,071 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    You can wear a seatbelt, drive perfectly, and still have an idiot drive into you. You never know what’s going to happen.

    Sure, but if everyone drove around with no seatbelts, didn't look before crossing the road etc you'd see an awful lot more road deaths. Lots of our life has safety measures already in place that we use so should be same with covid. Hopefully not long term but for the short term at least


  • #1726
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,359 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    titan18 wrote: »
    Sure, but if everyone drove around with no seatbelts, didn't look before crossing the road etc you'd see an awful lot more road deaths. Lots of our life has safety measures already in place that we use so should be same with covid. Hopefully not long term but for the short term at least
    Exactly you reduce the risk by using belts and children in car seats etc
    Same with Covid , you reduce the risk with masks , sanitizer and distancing . As long as needed I will continue but also I think will be cautious about airports etc and continue to bring hand sanitizer in certain places
    I saw a documentary done long before Covid and they swabbed airport hand rails and arm rests on seats etc and they were teeming with bacteria and viruses
    Maybe we will all be more aware of surfaces used my thousands


  • #1727
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ireland2020 wrote: »
    Why have we all these rules, when the car park in the retail park and shopping centre in Dundalk is full of cars with Northern reg plates.

    Why are the Gardaí not doing something about it? A simple presence at the car park entrance and turn them away would be a start

    On what basis would they be turned away?


  • #1728
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,585 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Why would northern reg cars drive down here for shopping? It'd be the other way around surely?


  • #1729
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Does anyone know what's happening with the Christmas sales this year? They can't have people queuing and gathering at 6am on St. Stephen's Day. Hopefully this year shop workers get a break at Christmas.


  • #1730
    Ireland2020
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 214 ✭✭Ireland2020


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    On what basis would they be turned away?

    Well your not meant to be outside your county


  • #1731
    Ireland2020
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 214 ✭✭Ireland2020


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Why would northern reg cars drive down here for shopping? It'd be the other way around surely?

    Non essential stores are closed in the 6 counties until next week


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  • #1732
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Does anyone know what's happening with the Christmas sales this year? They can't have people queuing and gathering at 6am on St. Stephen's Day. Hopefully this year shop workers get a break at Christmas.

    I saw on the Examiner site yesterday that many pubs (serving food) are also planning to stay closed on St. Stephen's Day also.


  • #1733
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Does anyone know what's happening with the Christmas sales this year? They can't have people queuing and gathering at 6am on St. Stephen's Day. Hopefully this year shop workers get a break at Christmas.

    I guess they will work especially as those shops will have been closed for about 16 weeks this year.

    I would prefer them to be closed every Stephen’s Day.


  • #1734
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,594 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Why would northern reg cars drive down here for shopping? It'd be the other way around surely?

    They're closed at the moment. Dundalk shopping centre gets huge numbers from NI at the weekends at the best of times anyway.


  • #1735
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,898 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    BeefeaterHat wrote:
    You admitted yourself to breaking the rules when it suits you. You also said that you're not economically affected by the lockdowns so you don't know how or why anyone else can be. You're the Lionel Messi of hypocrites and double standards.
    No I said back in March, and I linked to the post a couple of days back, that making a distance rule made no sense.
    I said then and I'm still saying that I'm safer walking my dogs in a secluded area 8km from my home than I am remaining within 5km and being in an urban area.
    Nothing hypocritical about ensuring you are safer.

    If you don't agree that I'm safer doing what I'm doing then have that argument with me. Otherwise you have no basis for your accusation.


  • #1736
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ireland2020 wrote: »
    Well your not meant to be outside your county

    But they are within the county into which they entered, when they crossed the border, and the border is not closed. So I am not sure what the Gardaí are expected to do


  • #1737
    maebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭maebee


    Deleted User wrote: »
    But they are within the county into which they entered, when they crossed the border, and the border is not closed. So I am not sure what the Gardaí are expected to do

    Technically, anyone shopping in Dundalk should be from Co. Louth. Nobody from Antrim, Dublin, Meath or anywhere else should be shopping there.


  • #1738
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Deleted User wrote: »
    But they are within the county into which they entered, when they crossed the border, and the border is not closed. So I am not sure what the Gardaí are expected to do


    But they left another county to enter that county so crossed a county boundary as well as an international one.


  • #1739
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    But they left another county to enter that county so crossed a county boundary as well as an international one.

    County rules don’t apply to the north and nor is crossing the international border banned. UK cars are arriving in Dublin port every day. So while I don’t agree with them all coming to the Republic to shop, I don’t see what the Gardai can do to turn them back


  • #1740
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,594 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Deleted User wrote: »
    But they are within the county into which they entered, when they crossed the border, and the border is not closed. So I am not sure what the Gardaí are expected to do

    That makes zero sense. Firstly it your own county not one you entered. Anybody could travel to another county and then say they are only within the second county - absurd.


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  • #1741
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Exactly you reduce the risk by using belts and children in car seats etc
    Same with Covid , you reduce the risk with masks , sanitizer and distancing . As long as needed I will continue but also I think will be cautious about airports etc and continue to bring hand sanitizer in certain places
    I saw a documentary done long before Covid and they swabbed airport hand rails and arm rests on seats etc and they were teeming with bacteria and viruses
    Maybe we will all be more aware of surfaces used my thousands

    You do realise that living in a completely sanitary bubble and constantly using hand sanitizer and disinfecting things is bad for us? We need to be exposed to a certain level of bacteria or viruses or we'll catch everything going. Wash your hands regularly and before eating and you'll be grand.


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