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Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

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  • #1412
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    El Sueño wrote: »
    Granted I would probably class it as fairly likely, but not inevitable

    Of course politicians can be economical with the truth but Martin has suggested neither non essential retail or restaurants will be closed again.


  • #1413
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,151 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    leanin2019 wrote: »
    Is a lockdown really inevitable? It was just about palatable for enough of the public second time round.

    3rd time round, when they have (potentially) started or about to start vaccinating people?

    Would be a much harder sell.

    I guess we'll see a month from now how its looking on all fronts

    I wouldn't say it's 100% inevitable, but, as I said, I'll be quite surprised if something close to it doesn't happen. Maybe retail will be allowed to continue next time around, but I think it's only a matter of time before restaurants and foody pubs are asked to close again. It all depends on where we are really and for now there's no one on planet earth that can say with cast iron certainty how the coming weeks will pan out.

    But there are a few basic facts. Case numbers are higher than what was deemed a sustainable level for going to level three and there is inevitably going to be a lot of mixing over the next few weeks and whenever you have people mixing the virus spreads. People can deny this and get salty about people pointing this out, but it is reality and to ignore it basically requires delusion on the part of the denier.

    Hopefully the vaccination programme can get moving in January, but it won't be a quick fix - it'll take a while.


  • #1414
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I know the difference just impressed with the amount of detail you could observe through a fogged up window whilst moving. As I said impressive.

    There is nothing impressive about being able to see through a fogged up window and make out what's going on inside. I didn't say i could read the texts on their smartphones just that it was full and many wore no masks.


  • #1415
    FinglasFollain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭FinglasFollain


    Don’t NPHET consider the 400 number the magic number to recommend another Level 5? This is surely inevitable given Xmas movements regardless of the “behaviour” that people like to scold others over.

    Whether government accept it is anyone’s guess. Hospitality might be easy to sacrifice again, retail less so.


  • #1416
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Best song of 2020. The lyrics sum the madness up everyone should listen to this.
    https://youtu.be/EMORdmG-jgA


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  • #1417
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    The lectures posted on here every night by certain posters are quite tiring at this stage tbh. If you want to lecture people then maybe send an email to RTE and ask if they're hiring.


  • #1418
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    HSE operations update

    In hospital 226 (decrease of 13)
    In ICU 29 (decrease of 3 but sadly 3 deaths in ICU the last 24 hrs)


  • #1419
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,151 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The lectures posted on here every night by certain posters are quite tiring at this stage tbh. If you want to lecture people then maybe send an email to RTE and ask if they're hiring.

    There's always the ignore button.


  • #1420
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Arghus wrote: »
    There's always the ignore button.
    Do you honestly think I haven't ignored half this thread. Thank God for the mobile version of Boards.


  • #1421
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,501 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Deleted User wrote:
    Having fun... you should try it sometime.

    You have your fun but I don't want to hear you complaining when we are back at level 5.
    You know if everybody had a bit of cop on we wouldn't need any levels.


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  • #1422
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Having fun... you should try it sometime.

    Not that you would know much about it either Jackie boy with all your doom mongering posts. Go out this weekend and have a few pints ....oh that`s right you just stated on the other thread that you don`t care whether pubs are open or closed.


  • #1423
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    eagle eye wrote: »
    You have your fun but I don't want to hear you complaining when we are back at level 5.
    You know if everybody had a bit of cop on we wouldn't need any levels.

    If and when that happens you may be sure that he will be one of the first to do just that.


  • #1424
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    John O.Groats wrote: »
    Not that you would know much about it either Jackie boy with all your doom mongering posts. Go out this weekend and have a few pints ....oh that`s right you just stated on the other thread that you don`t care whether pubs are open or closed.

    No pubs for me this weekend John, you can put the water cannon away


  • #1425
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    eagle eye wrote: »
    You have your fun but I don't want to hear you complaining when we are back at level 5.
    You know if everybody had a bit of cop on we wouldn't need any levels.

    So if we copped on the virus wouldn’t be here...? Strange argument.


  • #1426
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,537 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    eagle eye wrote: »
    You have your fun but I don't want to hear you complaining when we are back at level 5.
    You know if everybody had a bit of cop on we wouldn't need any levels.

    Can't see where he admits to breaking the rules and making up rules that suit him, unlike you who is quite adamant about that.


  • #1427
    FinglasFollain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭FinglasFollain


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    Can't see where he admits to breaking the rules and making up rules that suit him, unlike you who is quite adamant about that.

    A classic case of a “Do as I say, not as I do”.


  • #1428
    nocoverart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    I was “reminiscing” for want of a better word of older threads tonight and found this nugget from Captain Joy himself

    The good news will be arriving for the next 10 years. I don't believe there will ever be a vaccine. I hope that's not the case but I don't think it will be.

    At some point people are going to have to accept, that while we can have hope of comprehensive treatment, the world has changed. We are never going back to the pre Christmas normal in 2019, that's gone in my view.

    And it has changed, not because of this particular virus, but because as a community we screwed things up in a way that 10 years a go would be scarcely believable. We allowed China free pass to ignore global demands after SARS to ensure it would have the minuscule risk of ever happening again.

    We are paying the price now.

    I'm all for hope but word of a vaccine in months or years is all nonsense driven by different agendas and in particular financial motives that is not going to happen.

    From Kermit the frog, such an optimistic poster


  • #1429
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Deleted User wrote: »
    No pubs for me this weekend John, you can put the water cannon away

    As someone who constantly whinges and moans about businesses that had to close due to the restrictions you should be out supporting the ones that opened this week if you profess to care so much about them. Why would you not want to do this?


  • #1430
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    John O.Groats wrote: »
    As someone who constantly moans about the restrictions you should be out supporting the businesses that opened this week if you profess to care so much about them. Why would you not want to do this?

    I did, just no pubs.
    I know it might be surprising, but not everything is about pubs.


  • #1431
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,501 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Widdensushi wrote:
    Can't see where he admits to breaking the rules and making up rules that suit him, unlike you who is quite adamant about that.

    Well you see a bit of, and not much, intelligence would tell you that walking in a secluded area is much safer in these times than in an urban area. So it's a sensible decision to go to a secluded area rather than an urban one.

    Same as I'll stay at home and cook up a delicious meal.for my family while others will go into a restaurant and eat in the company of others who they know nothing about. Now neither of those is breaking any rules but ones taking unnecessary risks and the other is remaining safe.
    It'll probably be difficult for you to figure out which is which but I'll leave you at it.


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  • #1432
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    I will sell my soul to get a vaccine against this bloody virus. I would definitely pay money privately to jump the queue ahead of the the high priority list. Would that be allowed when the vaccine gets the go ahead? Could we skip the queue ahead of the oaps in the nursing homes if I pay the money for a vaccine?


  • #1433
    BryanMartin21
    Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭BryanMartin21


    eagle eye wrote: »
    You have your fun but I don't want to hear you complaining when we are back at level 5.
    You know if everybody had a bit of cop on we wouldn't need any levels.

    The mask slips.


  • #1434
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Should the government be sitting urgently to bring in emergency legislation for exetremely heavy penalties in case the covid vaccine storage areas is found and large quantities of the vaccine is robbed? There should be zero tolerance towards something like that.


  • #1435
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,398 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    A surge in line with every other country in the developed world is inevitable with the easing of restrictions. I think it will be by some distance the worst we have seen to date in cases, admissions and deaths.

    But people want to have fun. The cost will come reasonably quickly.


    Based on what exactly?


  • #1436
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    owlbethere wrote: »
    I will sell my soul to get a vaccine against this bloody virus. I would definitely pay money privately to jump the queue ahead of the the high priority list. Would that be allowed when the vaccine gets the go ahead? Could we skip the queue ahead of the oaps in the nursing homes if I pay the money for a vaccine?

    It makes you wonder when it's approved (not via emergency approval like the UK), would the likes of Pfizer not contemplate selling doses privately?
    One would assume with the deals struck within countries, that could be prohibited?

    But maybe Larry Goodman would accept a few euro to put you on his books, seeing as how there's rumblings, meat plant workers would be a priority list (I'm surprised they haven't achieved heard immunity yet based on the LOKdown)


  • #1437
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    owlbethere wrote: »
    I will sell my soul to get a vaccine against this bloody virus. I would definitely pay money privately to jump the queue ahead of the the high priority list. Would that be allowed when the vaccine gets the go ahead? Could we skip the queue ahead of the oaps in the nursing homes if I pay the money for a vaccine?

    No and thankfully your selfishness will not be satisfied by a price.


  • #1438
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    BryanMartin21 wrote: »
    The mask slips.

    The mask not only slipped but fell off completely 2 days ago.


  • #1439
    BryanMartin21
    Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭BryanMartin21


    nocoverart wrote: »
    I was “reminiscing” for want of a better word of older threads tonight and found this nugget from Captain Joy himself

    The good news will be arriving for the next 10 years. I don't believe there will ever be a vaccine. I hope that's not the case but I don't think it will be.

    At some point people are going to have to accept, that while we can have hope of comprehensive treatment, the world has changed. We are never going back to the pre Christmas normal in 2019, that's gone in my view.

    And it has changed, not because of this particular virus, but because as a community we screwed things up in a way that 10 years a go would be scarcely believable. We allowed China free pass to ignore global demands after SARS to ensure it would have the minuscule risk of ever happening again.

    We are paying the price now.

    I'm all for hope but word of a vaccine in months or years is all nonsense driven by different agendas and in particular financial motives that is not going to happen.

    From Kermit the frog, such an optimistic poster

    I think the fact restrictions are still being imposed shows that people are eager to get on with their lives.

    Talk of masks and social distancing staying beyond a vaccination of the vulnerable drop dead as a result.

    Restrictions would not be imposed if people were worried enough to take their own measures but the reality is seen with restaurants being booked out, flights being filled with emigrants returning home, shops being full etc. The reality being that people are happy enough to dump all the nonsense and reducing the restrictions to mere guidance will mean they basically no longer apply to most people.


  • #1440
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    No and thankfully your selfishness will not be satisfied by a price.

    LOL 😂


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  • #1441
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Should the government be sitting urgently to bring in emergency legislation for exetremely heavy penalties in case the covid vaccine storage areas is found and large quantities of the vaccine is robbed? There should be zero tolerance towards something like that.

    Should be zero tolerance on crimes committed in a persons home (Burglary) etc... We've heard the home is protected by the constitution in regard to house parties not so long ago etc...

    Stealing a truck load of vaccine, i'm afraid the courts would see that as some Robinhood style crime. Easy to justify stealing a truckload to protect your family.... ya know ya don't wanna break up the batch, as reported on the news etc...


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