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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,446 ✭✭✭Wailin


    Bought it start of July so six months. But I did get a very good deal on it, far better than anything over on mainland UK at the time. I've only put 3k miles on it in that time with covid so it's the main reason I had lost interest in the car as it was just sitting on the driveway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    Just thinking about this some more but not to overanalyse, did the chap not try to negotiate at all on your asking price? Did you think anything was fishy at all?
    Hopefully it’s kosher and if so I would definitely take the money now. You’re literally making a small profit on a car you have been able to run for six months and may be much harder to sell in the future.

    Take the money and use it as a deposit on the 99,950 M5.
    Obviously not serious about that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭maddness


    Wailin wrote: »
    Bought it start of July so six months. But I did get a very good deal on it, far better than anything over on mainland UK at the time. I've only put 3k miles on it in that time with covid so it's the main reason I had lost interest in the car as it was just sitting on the driveway.

    My own opinion on this is that the B58 in a five series is a bit of a waste here, it’s bonkers in a 1 series and I’d imagine also brilliant in a 3/4 series too but a 540i is just too big.
    The issue with a big fast car in Ireland is the roads that are fun to drive here are all narrow backroads and a large wide car is just too big to be really enjoyed.
    As much as I’d love something like a M5 I honestly think it’s wasted here whereas a smaller fast car can be enjoyable a lot more often.
    The current 5 series is a brilliant car and I honestly think it’s hard to beat for comfort, style and balance but if it’s fun you are after I’d look elsewhere.
    I’d sell it and pocket whatever profit you get and wait and see how things with Covid develop and buy what you want then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,609 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Wailin, would replacing it then with a different car just mean the same thing, i.e. sitting on the driveway? Maybe the problem here is the lack of using a car rather than the particular car itself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,678 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    Try sell it to him and then don't be disappointed at all if it falls through or he starts to haggle just walk away happy with your car. Then you'll not have regrets about not selling when the offer was there


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭maddness


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Wailin, would replacing it then with a different car just mean the same thing, i.e. sitting on the driveway? Maybe the problem here is the lack of using a car rather than the particular car itself?

    This is something that I’m thinking about a lot too Bazz, I’ve a brilliant car parked on my driveway that I only use for dropping kids and going to the shops. I’d imagine if things were normal I’d be loving it but I do wonder if it’s just wasted there. Problem I have is if I sell it I won’t be able to buy another one for the same money from Braxitland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Anyone have any idea what bmw and audi main dealers are like these days post covid?
    I've a day off work and I'm going to visit Audi Naas (Sheehy motors), audi North Dublin and Joe Duffy bmw while I'm beside it.
    I've a 2014 A6 S Line auto 190bhp with 90,000kms on it to offload, it's just possible I could sell it privately, and looking at either a new model A6 c8 or a 5 series g30.
    Are they still as tight and stingy as ever with valuations on trade ins?
    Not sure if I'm looking for a brand new car or a 2019/2020, sometimes it's easier to get into a new one and there's attractive offers. Going to depreciate a whack anyway.
    Possibly a 530e as my fuel is covered by work no matter if I go phev or diesel. Not going standard petrol though. Depends on the deal and vibe I get from the dealerships and if a particular car tickles my fancy. I do certainly want to explore phev. I think the a6 plug in is going to be a bit too expensive as they are just out.


  • Posts: 18,089 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Buddy Bubs wrote: »
    .................
    I've a day off work and I'm going to visit Audi Naas (Sheehy motors), audi North Dublin and Joe Duffy bmw while I'm beside it.
    I've a 2014 A6 S Line auto 190bhp with 90,000kms on it to offload and ..................
    Are they still as tight and stingy as ever with valuations on trade ins?................

    They'll be offloading your car to the trade so they'll be valuing it at much less than what you see similar advertised at from portocabin dealers.

    If they claim to give you anything over €13/14k the thing you will be buying off them has a very fat sticker price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,921 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Augeo wrote: »
    They'll be offloading your car to the trade so they'll be valuing it at much less than what you see similar advertised at from portocabin dealers.

    If they claim to give you anything over €13/14k the thing you will be buying off them has a very fat sticker price.

    Nothing wrong with the 'fat' sticker price if they at least throw some money at the trade in. Whats teally sickening is when the asking price is stupid high and then offered stupid low trade in.


  • Posts: 18,089 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mickdw wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with the 'fat' sticker price if they at least throw some money at the trade in. .............

    True but I was more referring to cases where folk think they got a great trade in price when they seem oblivious to the fat sticker price.

    mickdw wrote: »
    .......Whats teally sickening is when the asking price is stupid high and then offered stupid low trade in.

    I imagine that's what Buddy Bubs will encounter tbh. Most stuff they won't retail will get a stupid low trade in price. They'll make their margin solely on the car they are selling. Not much fresh used stock about so they won't be under pressure to be chopping their margin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,446 ✭✭✭Wailin


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Wailin, would replacing it then with a different car just mean the same thing, i.e. sitting on the driveway? Maybe the problem here is the lack of using a car rather than the particular car itself?

    Hopefully not bazz with the upcoming vaccine, but who knows what's in store for us in 2021!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,446 ✭✭✭Wailin


    I'm not sure what your practicality requirements are, but with that kind of money I'd be looking at a sorted 997 or if 4 doors and a big boot was a requirement, e39 M5. Both of which could throw up big bills, neither of which will depreciate as much as the 540i & both are a lot more of an event to drive.

    I couldn't deal with €1800 tax or more every year. My own is €570 for a car with 340hp, you just can't beat that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    I'll report back in the afternoon as to what I encounter. 14 audi a6 possibly just at top end of what the private market will buy. Its low kms might help, plenty for sale still in high teens with double the kms.
    I'm aware and fully subscribed to the fact cost to change is the only true way to decipher a deal. I won't get blinded by 20k for my own and an inflated price on new one.
    As a matter of interest if anyone here has enquired recently, are new A6 S Line and 5 series m sports allowing any kind of discounts these days off list price for a straight sale?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,446 ✭✭✭Wailin


    There's always discounts available on a straight sale. How much depends on the dealer and checking around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,962 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Wailin wrote: »
    My own is €570 for a car with 340hp, you just can't beat that.

    you can with an EV :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mickiemcfist


    Wailin wrote: »
    I couldn't deal with €1800 tax or more every year. My own is €570 for a car with 340hp, you just can't beat that.

    I get what you're saying but it's a false economy. (current offer excepted) the 540 will depreciate far more than 1800 annually in excess of the other two. M5s are appreciating.
    But yea that's just what I'd do in your scenario. Interior fit & finish isn't really my thing. I have a daily Mk5 gti while fastish isn't particularly fun & an e46 M3 which is fastish but is a laugh every time I drive it. The road tax is negligable as I've got two cars that aren't really depreciating. The Mrs has a 2018 3 series, that'll cost us more in depreciation this year than the combined running costs of my 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,446 ✭✭✭Wailin


    That's true mick and I'm well aware of it but the thing is, the money I'd save on the depreciation will be spent on some other pointless consumer item/holiday etc but the annual tax of €1800-2400 will still be there. I'd have an e92 m3 in the morning only for the killer tax. Makes driving nice cars in this country almost impossible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭chalky_ie


    Wailin what do you want from a nice car? Do you like going for drives on your own up the mountains, or do you just want something that is quick off the line and handles nicely in everyday life? Do you need space, or just think it's handy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,446 ✭✭✭Wailin


    My criteria is:
    +250bhp (350bhp better!)
    Preferably 3 litre engine but wouldn't turn my nose up at a focus st or the likes
    Tax no higher than 1200
    Space not so much a priority anymore
    Quick, fun, comfortable to an extent, not something like a Ford focus RS that will break your back on rough roads :pac:
    Wife has a Golf so doesn't necessarily need to be the main family car like my 540i, 4 doors better than two but can compromise.
    Petrol obviously, no diesels anymore.
    Not asking much am I?
    The 540i ticks every box except fun, which is not surprising. Still, it's not horrible to drive either. Corners well for a big car with the stiff m sport suspension. Not so much a fan of the xdrive though. Adds a lot of weight (100kg roughly), but it's still lighter than my old 535d.


  • Posts: 18,089 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wailin wrote: »
    ............... Not so much a fan of the xdrive though..

    I think you should sell it if the xdrive feature isn't to your liking :)
    Especially with the current offer on the table....... and you have your Suzuki to tip about in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭maddness


    Wailin wrote: »
    My criteria is:
    +250bhp (350bhp better!)
    Preferably 3 litre engine but wouldn't turn my nose up at a focus st or the likes
    Tax no higher than 1200
    Space not so much a priority anymore
    Quick, fun, comfortable to an extent, not something like a Ford focus RS that will break your back on rough roads :pac:
    Wife has a Golf so doesn't necessarily need to be the main family car like my 540i, 4 doors better than two but can compromise.
    Petrol obviously, no diesels anymore.
    Not asking much am I?
    The 540i ticks every box except fun, which is not surprising. Still, it's not horrible to drive either. Corners well for a big car with the stiff m sport suspension. Not so much a fan of the xdrive though. Adds a lot of weight (100kg roughly), but it's still lighter than my old 535d.

    Sitting in a Focus ST after a 5 Series will not feel good!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭chalky_ie


    Wailin wrote: »
    My criteria is:
    +250bhp (350bhp better!)
    Preferably 3 litre engine but wouldn't turn my nose up at a focus st or the likes
    Tax no higher than 1200
    Space not so much a priority anymore
    Quick, fun, comfortable to an extent, not something like a Ford focus RS that will break your back on rough roads :pac:
    Wife has a Golf so doesn't necessarily need to be the main family car like my 540i, 4 doors better than two but can compromise.
    Petrol obviously, no diesels anymore.
    Not asking much am I?
    The 540i ticks every box except fun, which is not surprising. Still, it's not horrible to drive either. Corners well for a big car with the stiff m sport suspension. Not so much a fan of the xdrive though. Adds a lot of weight (100kg roughly), but it's still lighter than my old 535d.

    PDK 981 Cayman?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,446 ✭✭✭Wailin


    maddness wrote: »
    Sitting in a Focus ST after a 5 Series will not feel good!

    Yep, I know! That's the pickle isn't it? Give up comfort and tech for fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭Sexual Chocolate


    Wailin wrote: »
    Yep, I know! That's the pickle isn't it? Give up comfort and tech for fun.

    Might not be as bad going to an S3 or RS3 in that case ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,106 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Stage 1 that 540i, unleash the torque.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Well, this is what I was offered, only got into 1 audi dealer because weather too bad and traffic is muck.

    20k offered for my own 2014 A6
    Price of new A6 Inc tech pack and a metallic paint upgrade 59.5k
    So cost to change and come up 7 years is 39.5k
    My car as deposit, leaving 545 per month for 36 months and a gfmv of 22,000. Finance is 2.9%

    Tempting. I've been paying 500 odd for my own car for last few years, although on hp not pcp I've never bought anything up at 60k before.

    At 22k gfmv, what deposit do you think I'd be left with if I went again in 3 years?
    It won't be worth 40k, maybe 30k ish?
    That would only leave me 10k equity. Higher payments then. I could reduce deposit now of course and up the payments to reflect true monthly cost of car and keep it more level in 3 years time.

    I'll visit another tomorrow morning and not mention my own car and see how I fare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,921 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Buddy Bubs wrote: »
    Well, this is what I was offered, only got into 1 audi dealer because weather too bad and traffic is muck.

    20k offered for my own 2014 A6
    Price of new A6 Inc tech pack and a metallic paint upgrade 59.5k
    So cost to change and come up 7 years is 39.5k
    My car as deposit, leaving 545 per month for 36 months and a gfmv of 22,000. Finance is 2.9%

    Tempting. I've been paying 500 odd for my own car for last few years, although on hp not pcp I've never bought anything up at 60k before.

    At 22k gfmv, what deposit do you think I'd be left with if I went again in 3 years?
    It won't be worth 40k, maybe 30k ish?
    That would only leave me 10k equity. Higher payments then. I could reduce deposit now of course and up the payments to reflect true monthly cost of car and keep it more level in 3 years time.

    I'll visit another tomorrow morning and not mention my own car and see how I fare.

    Will you be happy to throw 10k cash at it in 3 years time to upgrade and keep similar monthly?

    The alternative is to pay off the 22k with cash or finance and keep it. If you finance the outstanding amount, you will likely be another 3 or 4 years paying it so you are looking down the barrell or 6 to 7 years payments one way or another.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    Buddy Bubs wrote: »
    Well, this is what I was offered, only got into 1 audi dealer because weather too bad and traffic is muck.

    20k offered for my own 2014 A6
    Price of new A6 Inc tech pack and a metallic paint upgrade 59.5k
    So cost to change and come up 7 years is 39.5k
    My car as deposit, leaving 545 per month for 36 months and a gfmv of 22,000. Finance is 2.9%

    Tempting. I've been paying 500 odd for my own car for last few years, although on hp not pcp I've never bought anything up at 60k before.

    At 22k gfmv, what deposit do you think I'd be left with if I went again in 3 years?
    It won't be worth 40k, maybe 30k ish?
    That would only leave me 10k equity. Higher payments then. I could reduce deposit now of course and up the payments to reflect true monthly cost of car and keep it more level in 3 years time.

    I'll visit another tomorrow morning and not mention my own car and see how I fare.
    Max deposit on pcp is 30 per cent which is circa 18k so you should get 2k back if they really are offering 20k on your own. Otherwise they are reducing the price of the new one by 2 k ish.


  • Posts: 18,089 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Buddy Bubs wrote: »
    ................

    20k offered for my own 2014 A6
    Price of new A6 Inc tech pack and a metallic paint upgrade 59.5k
    ........................
    I'll visit another tomorrow morning and not mention my own car and see how I fare.

    Very interesting. ........ 20k is forecourt money for yours IMO :)

    https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/audi/a6/fpa/202010134965003?journey=Search


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,921 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Augeo wrote: »
    Very interesting. ........ 20k is forecourt money for yours IMO :)

    https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/audi/a6/fpa/202010134965003?journey=Search

    Vw and audi tend to be like that. They have discount built into
    new price and often manufacturer contributions etc but certsinly seems to be a more customer friendly strategy thst bmw use - insulting the returning customer with trade in offer.


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