Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

KrustyUCC · 03-12-2020 07:34PM

"Stark warning from Philip Nolan.

If R number goes to 2 over Christmas... we could see 800-1,200 cases per day by mid-January.

Holohan says modelling data is what could happen. “We’re not trying to scare people... we’re implying very small changes to R number that we had before we went to Level 5.”

Not trying to scare people lol

Yeah right of course they are

lukas8888 · 03-12-2020 07:35PM

George Lee is now asking a question, but it actually seems like he's making a speech.

03-12-2020 07:35PM

George Lee: "We're back in a situation as we were in early October. I'm not comfortable at all with the numbers". Without even posing a question, just to be particularly agreeable to Tony.

What a defiantly miserable imbecile.

hotmail.com · 03-12-2020 07:36PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Things really deteriorating in the United States. Record cases, hospitalisations and deaths.

They could break 3,000 deaths for today.

It's the main population centers leading the resurgence now again.

Americans don't care about the loss of life there, I wouldn't expect Irish people to start caring about their situation.

BrianD3 · 03-12-2020 07:36PM

Just had a quick glance at this evening's press conference and Six One, the usual sh*t with Nolan talking about a graph that we can't see.

George Lee jizzing himself over how worried the CMO is and about a "computer glitch" which has caused cases to be underreported. Really? Or did someone make a balls of an excel spreadsheet?

I wonder how many other computer glitches there have been during this.

Some mention of an issue with PPS number for vaccine rollout? Not sure as I wasn't paying much attention.

Seamai · 03-12-2020 07:36PM

Here comes George Lee, imagine having to put up with a profit of doom 24/7, though maybe his wife is immune to his negativity.

manofwisdom · 03-12-2020 07:37PM

About time the doom and gloom bollix George Lee is left outside for these press briefings.

KrustyUCC · 03-12-2020 07:37PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

George Lee: "We're back in a situation as we were in early October. I'm not comfortable at all with the numbers". Without even posing a question, just to be particularly agreeable to Tony.

What a defiantly miserable imbecile.

Pity George doesn't stay home and hide away for a while

average_runner · 03-12-2020 07:38PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Pity George doesn't stay home and hide away for a while

George lee lives for bad news, economy, weather etc

hotmail.com · 03-12-2020 07:38PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

George Lee: "We're back in a situation as we were in early October. I'm not comfortable at all with the numbers". Without even posing a question, just to be particularly agreeable to Tony.

What a defiantly miserable imbecile.

If he said that, then he's editorialising. His job isn't to feel comfortable or not comfortable.

These kinds of comments journalists makes, on air and on Twitter, just rub people up the wrong way.

Journalists aren't there to advise how people should live, they are there to report the information and hold those in power to account.

KrustyUCC · 03-12-2020 07:40PM

average_runner wrote: »

George lee lives for bad news, economy, weather etc

Can't argue with that lol

Arghus · 03-12-2020 07:40PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

"Stark warning from Philip Nolan.

If R number goes to 2 over Christmas... we could see 800-1,200 cases per day by mid-January.

Holohan says modelling data is what could happen. “We’re not trying to scare people... we’re implying very small changes to R number that we had before we went to Level 5.”

Not trying to scare people lol

Yeah right of course they are

You view it as scaring people.

I view it as them being frank with people

giveitholly · 03-12-2020 07:40PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Ah yeah, sure if you go to a restaurant and get infected and are asymptomatic how many people could you pass it on to before it's gone out of your system.
Tony is stupid to advise caution so we can all have a good Christmas.

How will someone going to a restaurant affect what kind of Christmas you have?

igCorcaigh · 03-12-2020 07:42PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

How in hell do we have IT issues at this stage?

Disappointing

Links between different IT systems can always fall down.
As a software developer, I can say that I'm happy that any of it works at all!

hotmail.com · 03-12-2020 07:42PM

It's going to be interesting to see if people will avoid restaurants etc now given the comments. Shops and streets packed today.

vienne86 · 03-12-2020 07:42PM

I think it's a bit of rubbish reporting the numbers for today, and then saying that they are wrong because of a computer glitch. Would they not have been better just saying that because there was a computer glitch, we can't report numbers for today? I hate this 'here are the numbers, but they're wrong'.

Russman · 03-12-2020 07:43PM

Arghus wrote: »

Do you really honestly believe that Tony Holohan's main motivation is to needlessly destroy people's enjoyment?

You’re trying to bringing logic to a thread like this ??

KrustyUCC · 03-12-2020 07:43PM

Arghus wrote: »

You view it as scaring people.

I view it as them being frank with people

Seeing as their worst case scenario modelling predictions have been far off the mark previously I don't think it's being frank with people but fair enough that's your viewpoint

ACitizenErased · 03-12-2020 07:45PM

Being frank (and honest) would be telling people that they haven’t got a clue what’s going to happen in the coming weeks, because they don’t. They model, it’s an estimation. Could be no increase, could be a decrease, could have 1000 cases per day, nobody actually knows.

igCorcaigh · 03-12-2020 07:46PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Seeing as their worst case scenario modelling predictions have been far off the mark previously I don't think it's being frank with people but fair enough that's your viewpoint

Are you sure you're not mistaking projections based on certain criteria with forecasts? Because they are very different things.

Widdensushi · 03-12-2020 07:47PM

Today's number is between 180 and 280, not too bad either way.

Arghus · 03-12-2020 07:48PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Being frank (and honest) would be telling people that they haven’t got a clue what’s going to happen in the coming weeks, because they don’t. They model, it’s an estimation. Could be no increase, could be a decrease, could have 1000 cases per day, nobody actually knows.

They did say that - these are things that could happen, not something that will happen. Holohan said those exact literal words.

Jim_Hodge · 03-12-2020 07:50PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Seeing as their worst case scenario modelling predictions have been far off the mark previously I don't think it's being frank with people but fair enough that's your viewpoint

Do you not realise that worse case scenarios are just that. The clue's in the term.
Any preventative actions alter those predictions.

Benimar · 03-12-2020 07:50PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Being frank (and honest) would be telling people that they haven’t got a clue what’s going to happen in the coming weeks, because they don’t. They model, it’s an estimation. Could be no increase, could be a decrease, could have 1000 cases per day, nobody actually knows.

Tony Holohan pretty much said that word for word as it happens.

igCorcaigh · 03-12-2020 07:50PM

I think we have been well served by the NPHET team, I don't understand the hostility towards them.

Polar101 · 03-12-2020 07:50PM

vienne86 wrote: »

I think it's a bit of rubbish reporting the numbers for today, and then saying that they are wrong because of a computer glitch. Would they not have been better just saying that because there was a computer glitch, we can't report numbers for today? I hate this 'here are the numbers, but they're wrong'.

Maybe, but then we'd have 0 cases today and x hundred tomorrow - people would go crazy. Now it's slightly less wrong if they're missing 1/3 of the cases. Worst case scenario would have been not to mention the "glitch" at all.

mr zulu · 03-12-2020 07:50PM

Arghus wrote: »

They did say that - these are things that could happen, not something that will happen. Holohan said those exact literal words.

Sound like something out of a Christmas Carol

Arghus · 03-12-2020 07:52PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Seeing as their worst case scenario modelling predictions have been far off the mark previously I don't think it's being frank with people but fair enough that's your viewpoint

I don't know really what people would rather they said instead to be honest. They have to keep banging that drum.

"Go for it lads, meet as many people as you can."

I don't think their predictions re numbers are all that ridiculous to be honest

niallo27 · 03-12-2020 07:52PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I think we have been well served by the NPHET team, I don't understand the hostility towards them.

Because they are pretty pointless at this stage, only advice is lock down everything or thousands will die. Do we really need a team of experts to tell us the same advice over and over again.

ACitizenErased · 03-12-2020 07:53PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I think we have been well served by the NPHET team, I don't understand the hostility towards them.

Some families of nursing home residents and healthcare workers would disagree

Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

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