Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

Zebra3 · 02-12-2020 11:57PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Taoiseach has said at the Fianna Fail party meeting tonight that retail, gyms etc that closed during level 5 will possibly never close again.

Sure not too long ago he told everyone publicly that there was going to be five levels and then immediately went away from that.

Wouldn't believe a word out of his mouth.

A true FFer tbf though.

Peter Flynt · 02-12-2020 11:59PM

I see FF/FG/GP are refusing to pay student nurses.

****ing scumbags.

weldoninhio · 03-12-2020 12:07AM

Hardyn wrote: »

I see Leo too saying he expects widespread immunity in the population by September.

Leo also said that there’d be no distinction made between gastro and pubs. Lads a spoofer. I wouldn’t believe a leak direct from his mouth.

What Username Guidelines · 03-12-2020 12:09AM

Anyone remember in the March, the narrative was always “12-18 months minimum” for a vaccine, with some experts saying even that was completely impossible. Then after a few months, people would kinda-jokingly say, well sure it’s been going on 3 months, surely it’s now 9-15 months?

We should take a moment to appreciate that it’s not even been 9 months since Leo made his paddy’s day speech, and here we are chatting about multiple vaccines.

Incredible stuff.

What Username Guidelines · 03-12-2020 12:18AM

Also hearing rumours that vaccines have already landed here in Ireland, HSE are using the Clayton Hotel on Pearse Street as a central storage location.

majcos · 03-12-2020 12:20AM

Thats me wrote: »

Bloody stats. No change in number means 30 were released, 1 died and 31 admitted? Or 30 stay in critical state, one admission and one RIP? Or something in between these extremes?

+0.5 dead..

Most likely it means that 30 people remain in critical care with one death and one admission. However, I cannot know this for sure, as you say, based purely on numbers.

The same number of people are in ICU as last night but it doesn’t mean those 31 are the same 31 people. Sadly one has died. So at least one more admitted. In the last two weeks around one a day admitted to ICU nationwide. It could be three were admitted and one died and two improved and were moved out to special care unit or general ward.

One more person was ventilated. That could the person who was admitted to ICU in the last 24 hours or someone who was already in ICU on oxygen via mask or a hood but deteriorated further and needed to be intubated and ventilated.

The rate of survival in Irish ICUs has compared favourably to other developed countries and survival rates in ICUs have improved. Overall about 80% of those admitted to Irish ICUs due to Covid have recovered.

I would not count someone in ICU as being half dead. A person would not be admitted to ICU in the first place unless that person had a meaningful chance of survival and recovery.

Happydays2020 · 03-12-2020 12:21AM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Anyone remember in the March, the narrative was always “12-18 months minimum” for a vaccine, with some experts saying even that was completely impossible. Then after a few months, people would kinda-jokingly say, well sure it’s been going on 3 months, surely it’s now 9-15 months?

We should take a moment to appreciate that it’s not even been 9 months since Leo made his paddy’s day speech, and here we are chatting about multiple vaccines.

Incredible stuff.

Leo is a doctor and knew they would be able to deliver a vaccine.

Rrrrrr2 · 03-12-2020 12:24AM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Sure not too long ago he told everyone publicly that there was going to be five levels and then immediately went away from that.

Wouldn't believe a word out of his mouth.

A true FFer tbf though.

Give him a few days of Nphet tweeting, spooking and moralising on RTE M Martin would fold like cheap tinfoil

bush · 03-12-2020 12:27AM

The inter County travel ban should not come back like its planned on the 6th of January. It kils hotels.

Rrrrrr2 · 03-12-2020 12:31AM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Also hearing rumours that vaccines have already landed here in Ireland, HSE are using the Clayton Hotel on Pearse Street as a central storage location.

Good rumours surrounding Covid for a change!

Rrrrrr2 · 03-12-2020 12:33AM

bush wrote: »

The inter County travel ban should not come back like its planned on the 6th of January. It kils hotels.

It’s ridiculous rule- all counties are different and all
mixed in daily life. Utter nonsense

eagle eye · 03-12-2020 12:35AM

big syke wrote:

I did and you ignored most the post and posted some ****e about spending more money to save the banks which had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to so with your need for facts about the impact of covid on he economy.

I was responding to the money we've spent and owe. It was very relevant.

big syke wrote:

Doesnt matter how long you have posted here or the fact that you are 13 years posting you are coming across like the most self centred ignorant selfish poster.

I'm self-centred because I posted an aside as regards my own situation? Some of you have no understanding of what a paragraph means.

big syke wrote:

You wont send your kids to school fine - their loss. Doesnt affect anyone but them. Their friends will move on and they will be left being the odd ones out when they go back eventually. And this will have a social impact on them.

You haven't a clue. I'd guess you don't have kids.

big syke wrote:

You want the entire country shut down but say to hell with the 5km limit due to very personal circumstances because you feel like its stupid.

Not personal circumstance, I'm making a decision to stay safe.

big syke wrote:

Can you not see how hypocritical that is?

Not at all, nothing hypocritical about my not abiding by a 5km rule in order to stay safer and wanting the lockdown to go on longer.

spookwoman · 03-12-2020 01:08AM

Hse op report on cases.

Table 1 = cases in Hospital

Table 2 Cases confirmed in the last 24 hours

Table 3 Critical Care Cases

Widdensushi · 03-12-2020 01:10AM

eagle eye wrote: »

I was responding to the money we've spent and owe. It was very relevant.

I'm self-centred because I posted an aside as regards my own situation? Some of you have no understanding of what a paragraph means.

You haven't a clue. I'd guess you don't have kids.

Not personal circumstance, I'm making a decision to stay safe.

Not at all, nothing hypocritical about my not abiding by a 5km rule in order to stay safer and wanting the lockdown to go on longer.

Your kids are very lucky to have you homeschooling them, how does that work? Have you many children, primary or secondary school age? Do you go to a similar timetable as schools? Do you think that living in isolation with just you and I presume your partner will affect their social skills going forward? Obviously you have great social skills so it that will set them up well.

Always_Running · 03-12-2020 01:37AM

spookwoman wrote: »

Hse op report on cases.

Table 1 = cases in Hospital

Table 2 Cases confirmed in the last 24 hours

Table 3 Critical Care Cases

Connacht hospitals faring well. Just 4 covid cases among Mayo, Galway and Sligo.

frank8211 · 03-12-2020 01:49AM

Widdensushi wrote: »

Your kids are very lucky to have you homeschooling them, how does that work? Have you many children, primary or secondary school age? Do you go to a similar timetable as schools? Do you think that living in isolation with just you and I presume your partner will affect their social skills going forward? Obviously you have great social skills so it that will set them up well.

They are safer and The family is safer and that is of primary concern short term. Ask anyone in the parts of |Kilkenny where families of children at school are paying heavily for it. Look at the numbers in hospital in St Lukes down there. Education need not be confined to a forum where 30 people from 30 houses are cluttered up in small classrooms

Goldengirl · 03-12-2020 02:47AM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

It’s an absolute fcukin disgrace that nurses were sent out annual retention fee letters yesterday.
100 euro to be paid to keep their name and pin on the register. The same pin they studied and worked for 4 years to earn.it should have been waved this year as a good will gesture.
The year that’s in it then and they working flat out during a pandemic and putting their lives at risk and they barely earning pennies.
A total fcukin farce

Agree totally.
Many nursing staff had months where they had to pay well over the odds for childcare earlier in this pandemic when no creches and both parents working frontline .

What is worse is student nurses working shifts through this whole thing and rostered as part of staff but not getting paid except 50 euro a week student allowance ..
and not allowed to work elsewhere, even if work available , due to Covid risk .

This is abuse and slave labour .
Expected to work shifts in a frontline job for no pay , and option to sit at home and do zoom lectures like other students not available to them
Government parties today voted against paying student nurses , even as healthcare assistants , despite two ministers for health saying they would .
Stephen Donnelly absented himself for the debate .
Yet all those ministers gave themselves a fvckin payrise.

All non government TDs voted in favour of paying them .

Goldengirl · 03-12-2020 02:51AM

is_that_so wrote: »

Why? Not all of them have been working "flat out". FYI, almost 95% of registrants have renewed to date so they clearly don't feel the same as you.

How do you know this ?
Source ?
Most nurses have not paid it yet as it would not be due till year end anyway .

Goldengirl · 03-12-2020 02:56AM

jojofizzio wrote: »

All frontline healthcare workers are expected to pay their statutory registration (and professional registration also in many cases) and are at the same risk of contracting Covid as their nursing colleagues-no waiving of fees this year for them either

Factually incorrect there .
While other healthcare workers are high risk, those highest risk are nurses , more per any other group , followed by HCAs .
Physios would be at risk to some degree but not as much as nurses, even those physios attending to patients in ICU , as nurses there would still be involved in aerosol producing activities more frequently.
But nice to see you support your colleagues

Goldengirl · 03-12-2020 03:04AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Calm down. All healthcare workers have to pay registration fees. You are lucky it's only a 100 euro. I pay a lot more.

No offence but you earn a lot more and are not high risk frontline .

As other poster thank you so much for supporting your nursing colleagues : (

Doctors room ghost · 03-12-2020 09:38AM

Goldengirl wrote: »

How do you know this ?
Source ?
Most nurses have not paid it yet as it would not be due till year end anyway .

The letters only went out Tuesday and nurses have until end of January to pay it.
There’s not a fcukin hope that 95% of Ireland’s nurses paid it on the first day.
I don’t know any nurse who has it payed yet

Doctors room ghost · 03-12-2020 10:48AM

A 500£ gift paid to nurses in Scotland as a once off payment.
100€ annual fee to remain on the register in Ireland.and a 350€ fine if it’s paid late.

Joke of a set up.

AlmightyCushion · 03-12-2020 11:01AM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

A 500£ gift paid to nurses in Scotland as a once off payment.
100€ annual fee to remain on the register in Ireland.and a 350€ fine if it’s paid late.

Joke of a set up.

In Scotland they have to pay an annual fee of £120.

Plumbthedepths · 03-12-2020 11:03AM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

A 500£ gift paid to nurses in Scotland as a once off payment.
100€ annual fee to remain on the register in Ireland.and a 350€ fine if it’s paid late.

Joke of a set up.

€1.92 a week or €100 a year , many professionals pay a registration fee every year well in excess of €100.
A demand has been submitted by the unions for recognition of working through the pandemic with the health authorities.

Doctors room ghost · 03-12-2020 11:03AM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

In Scotland they have to pay an annual fee of £120.

Yeah and in Ireland nurses pay €100 annually without the 500£ gift.

03-12-2020 11:04AM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

A 500£ gift paid to nurses in Scotland as a once off payment.
100€ annual fee to remain on the register in Ireland.and a 350€ fine if it’s paid late.

Joke of a set up.

I think that the issue is not the fee - that is something that would be ringfenced for the administration system and probably best left alone. The issue is that nurses are not getting a one off bonus like seems to be the case in other countries. That would come from a different pot of money and I don't think that there would be many would begrudge nurses a Christmas bonus (especially given how much is being spent on other supports)

Doctors room ghost · 03-12-2020 11:09AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think that the issue is not the fee - that is something that would be ringfenced for the administration system and probably best left alone. The issue is that nurses are not getting a one off bonus like seems to be the case in other countries. That would come from a different pot of money and I don't think that there would be many would begrudge nurses a Christmas bonus (especially given how much is being spent on other supports)

Nurses pay the retention fee annually.my original point was that for the year we’ve had,these fees should have been waived as a good will gesture and that would equate to a Christmas bonus similar to Scotland

D.Q · 03-12-2020 11:10AM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Also hearing rumours that vaccines have already landed here in Ireland, HSE are using the Clayton Hotel on Pearse Street as a central storage location.

Pls no

ednwireland · 03-12-2020 11:14AM

https://www.donegallive.ie/news/coronavirus/593246/over-100-members-of-staff-affected-by-covid-19-at-letterkenny-university-hospital.html

HSE finally admitting where cases are coming from in donegal

outbreak going a month, mass testing started yesterday

speckle · 03-12-2020 11:32AM

ednwireland wrote: »

https://www.donegallive.ie/news/coronavirus/593246/over-100-members-of-staff-affected-by-covid-19-at-letterkenny-university-hospital.html

HSE finally admitting where cases are coming from in donegal

outbreak going a month, mass testing started yesterday

Anyone here from Donegal that would like to tell us what the building is like on the inside... how old... how laid out... windows...what ventillation like... is it cramped... room for proper isolation areas... enough staff normally etc.?

Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

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