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Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

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    #392
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users Posts: 5,190 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Depends on the house and its inhabitants. A cautious house is safer than a cautious pub is safer than an un..cautious.. house.

    Very easy to catch out the pubs and close them


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    #393
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    GazzaL wrote: »
    I tell it like it is Johno.

    Definition of fascism.

    A political system based on a very powerful leader, state control of social and economic life, and extreme pride in country and race, with no expression of political disagreement allowed

    So you believe that the authorities "up in Dublin" fit this definition? Like seriously.


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    #394
    Arghus
    Registered Users Posts: 14,377 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Tony abandoning his objective veneer in the final moments of press conference: "I'm reluctant to blame a particular sector of society but we've seen alcohol as a significant factor in driving case numbers."

    What a dishonest, biased charlatan. What percentage of cases are attributed to pubs Tony? Under 0.3%. Vendetta against traditional publicans all too obvious.

    He doesn't mean pubs and only pubs, he means people drinking, socialising with friends or in groups in general, if you add alcohol into that mix people's inhibitions are lower, adherence to safety guidelines tends to decrease etc, etc.

    People who are willing to just see that as solely an anti booze crusade and nothing else aren't really being honest. Whenever people mix anywhere, full stop, the opportunities for the virus to spread are increased and if you add alcohol people are going to be even less mindful of risk etc, etc. It's naive to say otherwise.


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    #395
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Switzerland, I mean what could go wrong......

    https://twitter.com/RaimitoSG/status/1332708086310694912?s=20


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    #396
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    John O.Groats wrote: »
    Definition of fascism.

    A political system based on a very powerful leader, state control of social and economic life, and extreme pride in country and race, with no expression of political disagreement allowed

    So you believe that the authorities "up in Dublin" fit this definition? Like seriously.

    Jaysus. Sounds a lot like the leadership in NPHET.


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    #397
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Switzerland, I mean what could go wrong......

    Extraordinary stuff. We give out about our political and medical leaders plenty. But, jesus, it could be a lot worse. Our gang don't always make the right decisions but I do think they care.


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    #398
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Switzerland, I mean what could go wrong......

    https://twitter.com/RaimitoSG/status/1332708086310694912?s=20

    sacrebleu

    verdammt

    stronzate

    Merda


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    #399
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    GazzaL wrote: »
    I tell it like it is Johno.

    You keep telling yourself that :pac:


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    #400
    Wombatman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Switzerland, I mean what could go wrong......

    https://twitter.com/RaimitoSG/status/1332708086310694912?s=20

    children-skiing-slalom-racing-track-260nw-750314587.jpg

    Slalom gate will be the next Golf gate I tell ya....


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    #401
    bb1234567
    Registered Users Posts: 5,496 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Extraordinary stuff. We give out about our political and medical leaders plenty. But, jesus, it could be a lot worse. Our gang don't always make the right decisions but I do think they care.

    Yeh I think their intentions are good
    Important to remember that their decisions are generally very reflective of what a majority of the country want. Sometimes the sentiment on here almost seems like consensus that NPHET are somehow controlling a completely unwilling and reluctant population,

    Recent poll
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1333474179400732672
    More Irish people think restrictions are not enough than those who think they are excessive. Anecdotally this seems really surprising to me but I suppose I probably discuss restrictions with people online more than I would with people in real life. Boards views disagreeing with them are extremely unreflective of the general population in actual fact. This is just obvious though, if the decisions were deeply unpopular with large proportions of the population you wouldn't be seeing any face masks around and there would be protests of significance, the public were well able to protest about water charges so it's not like it's unprecedented.

    I think the outdoor face mask rule will be an interesting barometer of public opinion and compliance with what I consider to be a very over the top and frankly nonsense rule. If that is widely complied with then it's pretty clear that NPHET can say jump and the entire country will say how high forever more no questions asked.


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    #402
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users Posts: 5,190 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    That is frankly disturbing, people are getting used to isolation, if we don't socialise and have the desire to I am not sure what seperates us.


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    #403
    CorkRed93
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    https://twitter.com/barratree/status/1333413498353815558


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    #404
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users Posts: 11,639 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    CorkRed93 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/barratree/status/1333413498353815558
    I've never been so stressed in my life. No social outlets, all work, no escape. Very difficult time.


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    #405
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Yeh I think their intentions are good
    Important to remember that their decisions are generally very reflective of what a majority of the country want. Sometimes the sentiment on here almost seems like consensus that NPHET are somehow controlling a completely unwilling and reluctant population,

    Recent poll
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1333474179400732672
    More Irish people think restrictions are not enough than those who think they are excessive. Anecdotally this seems really surprising to me but I suppose I probably discuss restrictions with people online more than I would with people in real life. Boards views disagreeing with them are extremely unreflective of the general population in actual fact. This is just obvious though, if the decisions were deeply unpopular with large proportions of the population you wouldn't be seeing any face masks around and there would be protests of significance, the public were well able to protest about water charges so it's not like it's unprecedented.

    Boards isn't thankfully a reflection of the real world.


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    #406
    jackboy
    Registered Users Posts: 4,502 ✭✭✭jackboy


    CorkRed93 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/barratree/status/1333413498353815558

    Interesting. Those who have the greatest chance of dying are the least susceptible to depression due to the pandemic.


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    #407
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I've never been so stressed in my life. No social outlets, all work, no escape. Very difficult time.

    Sorry to hear that. Have you thought of talking to someone who specialises in the area and may help.


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    #408
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Boards isn't thankfully a reflection of the real world.

    Fúck it, you're right

    the-matrix-neo-sees-matrix.jpg


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    #409
    Ficheall
    Registered Users Posts: 9,027 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I've never been so stressed in my life. No social outlets...
    Ah now - you've got us :p


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    #410
    WhiteMemento9
    Registered Users Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Yeh I think their intentions are good
    Important to remember that their decisions are generally very reflective of what a majority of the country want. Sometimes the sentiment on here almost seems like consensus that NPHET are somehow controlling a completely unwilling and reluctant population,

    Recent poll
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1333474179400732672
    More Irish people think restrictions are not enough than those who think they are excessive. Anecdotally this seems really surprising to me but I suppose I probably discuss restrictions with people online more than I would with people in real life. Boards views disagreeing with them are extremely unreflective of the general population in actual fact. This is just obvious though, if the decisions were deeply unpopular with large proportions of the population you wouldn't be seeing any face masks around and there would be protests of significance, the public were well able to protest about water charges so it's not like it's unprecedented.

    It not really that surprising and I have commented on this before that it is more a microcosm of this forum. I used to post a bit to at least try and give opposing arguments but the thread became so overrun with this anti lockdown stuff that I read a page or two, laugh, and hop out of the thread. The most off-putting thing is generally the very polar views without nuance in a situation that has so many grey areas. I don't think I have ever been as sure of anything in my life as some of these posters seem in this thread about an incredibly complex situation. I think most people ended up feeling the same, left the thread, and it became very one sided.

    There are other forums on board where you can see opinions on the topic which are far more representative in the threads of that poll you posted.


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    #411
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Did I read correctly that the R number is now at 1? Should we be easing restrictions at all if that is the case? At the same time I seem to be seeing again that a lot of cases are in HSE operated or regulated environments.


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    #412
    GeorgeBailey
    Registered Users Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I've never been so stressed in my life. No social outlets, all work, no escape. Very difficult time.

    Utterly sh!te times. If it wasn't for the vaccine shaped light at the end of the tunnel I shudder to think what my state of mind would be.


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    #413
    Arghus
    Registered Users Posts: 14,377 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Yeh I think their intentions are good
    Important to remember that their decisions are generally very reflective of what a majority of the country want. Sometimes the sentiment on here almost seems like consensus that NPHET are somehow controlling a completely unwilling and reluctant population,

    Recent poll
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1333474179400732672
    More Irish people think restrictions are not enough than those who think they are excessive. Anecdotally this seems really surprising to me but I suppose I probably discuss restrictions with people online more than I would with people in real life. Boards views disagreeing with them are extremely unreflective of the general population in actual fact

    It's an anonymous Internet forum, so there'll always be a much higher of proportion of people expressing dissatisfaction than there necessarily is in the general population - the very nature of the place lends itself to it.


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    #414
    Leftwaffe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    McConkey is on CBLive tonight. “Hear How Professor Sam McConkey thinks that COVID vaccines might live up to their expectations”.

    In all fairness just f**k off Sam.


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    #415
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Redordeadqwwer wrote: »
    McConkey is on CBLive tonight. “Hear How Professor Sam McConkey thinks that COVID vaccines might live up to their expectations”.

    In all fairness just f**k off Sam.

    Why should he?


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    #416
    bb1234567
    Registered Users Posts: 5,496 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I've never been so stressed in my life. No social outlets, all work, no escape. Very difficult time.

    Sorry to hear that ACE. I think most of us can relate. I feel like I'm living groundhog day every day. Hopefully we all have a much deserved and socially vibrant christmas run up now


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    #417
    ElJeffe
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    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Did I read correctly that the R number is now at 1? Should we be easing restrictions at all if that is the case? At the same time I seem to be seeing again that a lot of cases are in HSE operated or regulated environments.

    It's madness to be opening everything up now tbh. Almost 300 cases per day. It's going to be a very bleak January and February im afraid.


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    #418
    Arghus
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    Is he pushing doubts? I mean the programme hasn't even been broadcast yet.


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    #419
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users Posts: 11,639 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Arghus wrote: »
    Is he pushing doubts? I mean the programme hasn't even been broadcast yet.
    ah yeah i'd say mcconkey will come out and be all positive, as always


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    #420
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Arghus wrote: »
    Is he pushing doubts? I mean the programme hasn't even been broadcast yet.

    Theres an uplifting programme on rte1 before hand to get us in the mood


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    #421
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    ah yeah i'd say mcconkey will come out and be all positive, as always

    Every silver lining has a big cloud.


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