Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

fin12 · 30-11-2020 09:27AM

The only way anyone is going to do 12 pubs is by takeaway drinks only cause who in their right mind would buy 12 dinners.

sioda · 30-11-2020 09:46AM

That rte article is a clickbait panic article. I really feel for the publicans who have made the effort to retro their pubs to safely house people. Especially ones who have done extra outdoor set ups.

This paragraph should have been at the top of the article tbf instead of halfway down.

"The report noted, however, that the reopening of pubs on 21 September - everywhere except the capital - also coincided with the opening of universities and specific sporting events"

Gervais08 · 30-11-2020 09:48AM

sioda wrote: »

That rte article is a clickbait panic article. I really feel for the publicans who have made the effort to retro their pubs to safely house people. Especially ones who have done extra outdoor set ups.

This paragraph should have been at the top of the article tbf instead of halfway down.

"The report noted, however, that the reopening of pubs on 21 September - everywhere except the capital - also coincided with the opening of universities and specific sporting events"

Sshh the anti pub Tony acolytes don’t appreciate logic and truth!!

stephenjmcd · 30-11-2020 09:51AM

sioda wrote: »

That rte article is a clickbait panic article. I really feel for the publicans who have made the effort to retro their pubs to safely house people. Especially ones who have done extra outdoor set ups.

This paragraph should have been at the top of the article tbf instead of halfway down.

"The report noted, however, that the reopening of pubs on 21 September - everywhere except the capital - also coincided with the opening of universities and specific sporting events"

Just on the EY article worth noting the below

https://twitter.com/JackHoJo/status/1333335239519821825?s=19

Tazz T · 30-11-2020 09:57AM

John O.Groats wrote: »

Can I have some of what you`re smoking? No chance whatsoever of any of this panning out.

I'm an immunology grad. My last year thesis was on the epidemiology of airborne disease. I'd put money on it.

I'm pretty sure NYPET know these facts too. Either they know something we don't or they're just hedging their bets in case they can't be seem to get it wrong by supporting the easing of restrictions.

Remember we're not really going to level 3 tomorrow, it's closer to level 4 and on Friday when the restaurants/gastro pubs open it's still above 3. We won't get to the 3 until two weeks before Xmas when the schools will be out. That alone will offset any increase of infections of people meeting up over Xmas.

Regardless, we're in the fourth quarter of the second wave. We're not going to go straight into a third wave before it's finished. To my knowledge there is no precedence for this happening at any other time in recent history.

But let's come back to it on January and I'll be happy for you to take the piss out of me if I'm wrong on this.

MrStuffins · 30-11-2020 11:55AM

One day closer lads! I can smell the pints!

irish_goat · 30-11-2020 12:00PM

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Because pubs and restaurants cannot open and sell drink until Friday i wasn't sure if hotel bars would open on Tuesday to residants. And none of the receptionists could clarify it either. I'll have a walk round town tomorrow and drop in to a few and confirm it.

Rang Lough Eske Hotel this morning and they confirmed the bar will be open for residents, no requirement to have food. Wasn't sure if entertainment is allowed. Forgot to ask what time the bar would close as well...

funnydoggy · 30-11-2020 12:04PM

Tazz T wrote: »

I'm an immunology grad. My last year thesis was on the epidemiology of airborne disease. I'd put money on it.

I'm pretty sure NYPET know these facts too. Either they know something we don't or they're just hedging their bets in case they can't be seem to get it wrong by supporting the easing of restrictions.

Remember we're not really going to level 3 tomorrow, it's closer to level 4 and on Friday when the restaurants/gastro pubs open it's still above 3. We won't get to the 3 until two weeks before Xmas when the schools will be out. That alone will offset any increase of infections of people meeting up over Xmas.

Regardless, we're in the fourth quarter of the second wave. We're not going to go straight into a third wave before it's finished. To my knowledge there is no precedence for this happening at any other time in recent history.

But let's come back to it on January and I'll be happy for you to take the piss out of me if I'm wrong on this.

That would be great.

Gervais08 · 30-11-2020 12:08PM

Tazz T wrote: »

I'm an immunology grad. My last year thesis was on the epidemiology of airborne disease. I'd put money on it.

I'm pretty sure NYPET know these facts too. Either they know something we don't or they're just hedging their bets in case they can't be seem to get it wrong by supporting the easing of restrictions.

Remember we're not really going to level 3 tomorrow, it's closer to level 4 and on Friday when the restaurants/gastro pubs open it's still above 3. We won't get to the 3 until two weeks before Xmas when the schools will be out. That alone will offset any increase of infections of people meeting up over Xmas.

Regardless, we're in the fourth quarter of the second wave. We're not going to go straight into a third wave before it's finished. To my knowledge there is no precedence for this happening at any other time in recent history.

But let's come back to it on January and I'll be happy for you to take the piss out of me if I'm wrong on this.

I’d be slightly more convinced you weren’t spoofing had you got NPHET right tbh.

SB71 · 30-11-2020 12:32PM

Effects wrote: »

What term would you rather everybody used instead?

PUBS

The term gastropubs is fine but pubs which dont serve fgood are called PUBS and not "wet pubs"

MrStuffins · 30-11-2020 12:35PM

Gervais08 wrote: »

I’d be slightly more convinced you weren’t spoofing had you got NPHET right tbh.

So..........everyone who disagrees with you is either lying, anti-pub, pro-Holohan or Tony Holohan himself!

Very convenient I must say!

copeyhagen · 30-11-2020 12:51PM

folks, have they given the new guidelines yet? like, do we have to buy food, is the time limit gone etc.

folks are taking kids for a sleepover on Saturday so me and the wife can go out.. thank ****.

but ened to know do we book two places and eat 9e food in each, or can we actually got to a nice restaurant and not have to worry about going to pub after and buying more food for the bin.

hynesie08 · 30-11-2020 12:53PM

copeyhagen wrote: »

folks, have they given the new guidelines yet? like, do we have to buy food, is the time limit gone etc.

folks are taking kids for a sleepover on Saturday so me and the wife can go out.. thank ****.

but ened to know do we book two places and eat 9e food in each, or can we actually got to a nice restaurant and not have to worry about going to pub after and buying more food for the bin.

Same as before, 9 euro meal, table service, 2m or 2h (1.45)

copeyhagen · 30-11-2020 12:55PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Same as before, 9 euro meal, table service, 2m or 2h (1.45)

have they confirmed that yet? i seen some reports saying no time limit if they can social distance? like before.

hynesie08 · 30-11-2020 12:58PM

copeyhagen wrote: »

have they confirmed that yet? i seen some reports saying no time limit if they can social distance? like before.

2 metre distance or 2 hour time limit according to Leo varadkar (it's 1.45 plus 15 for cleaning but he needs the soundbite). Failte ireland releasing their guidelines during the week but nothing major is expected to change.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 30-11-2020 01:00PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

One day closer lads! I can smell the pints!

Over the smell of shìte?

MrStuffins · 30-11-2020 01:16PM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Over the smell of shìte?

My local is actually very clean. Smells delightful!

I actually just read that they're doing a deal where you get a free pint with your substantial €9 meal later this week when they open up.

Free pints? What's not to love??

ginoginelli · 30-11-2020 01:21PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

2 metre distance or 2 hour time limit according to Leo varadkar (it's 1.45 plus 15 for cleaning but he needs the soundbite). Failte ireland releasing their guidelines during the week but nothing major is expected to change.

Talk about operating on old data. 2m has been shown to be of little help when indoors with an airborne virus. No confirmed formite transmission cases out there either as far as I am aware, which renders the cleaning aspect pointless too.

Tenzor07 · 30-11-2020 02:09PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

One day closer lads! I can smell the pints!

Good to see someone is excited about the possibility that pub/restaurant businesses are allowed to open for 2 weeks, they should be grateful of the privilege to serve you...

rob316 · 30-11-2020 02:14PM

What is the closing time for the places opening?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 30-11-2020 02:23PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

My local is actually very clean. Smells delightful!

I actually just read that they're doing a deal where you get a free pint with your substantial €9 meal later this week when they open up.

Free pints? What's not to love??

All is rosy in your world eh? My local is gone. Closed forever. But shur whatever.

MrStuffins · 30-11-2020 02:29PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Good to see someone is excited about the possibility that pub/restaurant businesses are allowed to open for 2 weeks, they should be grateful of the privilege to serve you...

Exactly! It would be a massive shame if they were not allowed to open. Let's be glad that they are!

Hunky Monster wrote: »

All is rosy in your world eh? My local is gone. Closed forever. But shur whatever.

Well that's a shame! Is that the same local you went to when they opened, got pissed off about having to wear a mask while going to the jacks and decided to protest and not go again? Shame they didn't have your support!

I'll make sure to give my full support to the pubs in the local area over the festive period. It's gonna be class!

Gervais08 · 30-11-2020 02:31PM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

All is rosy in your world eh? My local is gone. Closed forever. But shur whatever.

My Main Street had 11 pubs, three boarded up by Easter - we now have one very expensive “dining experience” and two pubs and one small hotel that opened with heated smoking areas/beer gardens.

The posh gaff will open Friday, the hotel will but no one knows for who (residents only ?) and the other two that landlords put a lot of money into making a comfortable and safe outside area likely won’t.

Very sad.

30-11-2020 02:42PM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

All is rosy in your world eh? My local is gone. Closed forever. But shur whatever.

Likewise, bumped into my local barman yesterday. He's utterly crestfallen, pumped thousands of quid into partitions and other safety features. All for nothing, kicked to the kerb by the Government. Now the pub is in danger of going under, rates and bills don't disappear behind closed doors. And then you have ignoramuses faking excitement about delicious creamy pints in "gastro" environments, just to thumb it at traditional publicans and their patrons. Class Crass.

Macy0161 · 30-11-2020 02:57PM

Local pub with food just put out they won't be re-opening (for now), given the likely closure after Christmas.

copeyhagen · 30-11-2020 03:03PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Likewise, bumped into my local barman yesterday. He's utterly crestfallen, pumped thousands of quid into partitions and other safety features. All for nothing, kicked to the kerb by the Government. Now the pub is in danger of going under, rates and bills don't disappear behind closed doors. And then you have ignoramuses faking excitement about delicious creamy pints in "gastro" environments, just to thumb it at traditional publicans and their patrons. Class Crass.

if the business is likely to go under anyway, why the **** would they not just open regardless.. whats he got to lose?

MrStuffins · 30-11-2020 03:07PM

Macy0161 wrote: »

Local pub with food just put out they won't be re-opening (for now), given the likely closure after Christmas.

Sad news!

This is why it's important to support other local pubs this Christmas with your business!

Covid has caused these businesses to struggle. Get out and grab some pints and some €9 meals when you can!

harr · 30-11-2020 03:11PM

Macy0161 wrote: »

Local pub with food just put out they won't be re-opening (for now), given the likely closure after Christmas.

One local pub near who has a full kitchen and does bar food have said the same . With the prospect of having to close again after Christmas.
It must be costing him a bit having to open and close and I know he got stung twice with food ordered in and couldn’t shift it.

Macy0161 · 30-11-2020 03:25PM

harr wrote: »

One local pub near who has a full kitchen and does bar food have said the same . With the prospect of having to close again after Christmas.
It must be costing him a bit having to open and close and I know he got stung twice with food ordered in and couldn’t shift it.

This place would be the same - too much of a food place for me pre-covid.

I guess they also have to consider taking staff off PUP, and getting them back on again, in the run up to Christmas or straight after may not be fair. If it even gets to Christmas.

rob316 · 30-11-2020 03:35PM

Macy0161 wrote: »

Local pub with food just put out they won't be re-opening (for now), given the likely closure after Christmas.

One of our customers owns a group of pubs, I was talking to the management today fishing for an order but they are still deciding on how many of the pubs they are going to open as they have to close again in a few weeks. The opening costs are huge for a couple of their larger premises.

Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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