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Munster vs Zebre, Mon 30th Nov 8:15pm; Eir Sport 1

  • 29-11-2020 12:54pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭


    Munster:
    Matt Gallagher; Calvin Nash, Dan Goggin, Damian de Allende, Darren Sweetnam; JJ Hanrahan, Nick McCarthy;
    Josh Wycherley, Rhys Marshall, Stephen Archer; Fineen Wycherley, Billy Holland (c); Jack O’Donoghue, Chris Cloete, Gavin Coombes.

    Replacements: Diarmuid Barron, Liam O’Connor, Keynan Knox, Thomas Ahern, Jack Daly, Craig Casey, Ben Healy, Seán French.

    Zebre:
    15. Junior Laloifi (15)
    14. Giovanni D’Onofrio* (7)
    13. Giulio Bisegni (104) (Cap)
    12. Enrico Lucchin* (13)
    11. Pierre Bruno (16)
    10. Paolo Pescetto (4)
    9. Alessandro Fusco* (0) permit player delle Fiamme Oro Rugby

    8. Lorenzo Masselli* (12)
    7. Alessandro Mordacci* (1) giocatore invitato del Valorugby Emilia
    6. Mick Kearney (20)
    5. Leonard Krumov* (50)
    4. Gabriele Venditti* (0) giocatore invitato del Rugby Calvisano
    3. Alexandru Tarus (12)
    2. Marco Manfredi (17)
    1.Riccardo Brugnara (4) permit player del Rugby Calvisano

    A disposizione:

    16. Massimo Ceciliani* (32)
    17. Andrea Lovotti* (99)
    18. Matteo Nocera* (6)
    19. Andrea Chianucci (0) giocatore invitato delle Fiamme Oro Rugby
    20. Oliviero Fabiani (123)
    21. Simone Marinaro* (0) giocatore invitato delle Fiamme Oro Rugby
    22. Alessandro Forcucci* (0) giocatore invitato delle Fiamme Oro Rugby
    23. Jamie Elliott (36)


    Unavailable: Iacopo Bianchi*, Tommaso Boni*, Paolo Buonfiglio*, Nicolò Casilio*, Tommaso Castello, Gabriele Di Giulio*, Renato Giammarioli*, Ian Nagle, Samuele Ortis*, Giovanni Licata*, Joshua Renton, Jimmy Tuivaiti

    With Italy: Luca Bigi, Mattia Bellini, Carlo Canna, Danilo Fischetti*, Maxime Mbandà*, Johan Meyer, Federico Mori* (permit player), Guglielmo Palazzani, Daniele Rimpelli*, David Sisi, Cristian Stoian* (permit player), Jacopo Trulla* (permit player), Marcello Violi*, Giosuè Zilocchi*

    There are eight changes from the win at Glasgow, with 5 academy players included. LOC and Cloete take their place in the 23 after spells out injured. Jack Daly and Seán French will make their debuts from the bench. The starting XV remains quite strong. JJ Hanrahan will get some much needed gametime before Europe.

    7 club players included in Zebre's 23. With so many missing it's difficult to see past Munster having the BP wrapped up by half-time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭Paul Weller


    And DDA to get a try!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    if the BP is wrapped up by then, I'd like to see them get the likes of Ahern, Daly and French on the field by the 60th minute and give them meaningful game time, rather than a token 5 minutes at the end

    Must be one of the youngest sub benches we have ever put out, average age of under 22.

    Excited to see Goggin playing outside DDA

    Would have liked to have seen Salanoa involved, get him some game time after returning from injury


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    Not really expecting a masterclass from Goggin. He's not back long and will probably need a few more games to get back to the match pace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Monday Night Rugby time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Wycherly out. Tom Ahearn starts and Tommy O Donnell added to the bench


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    That makes tonight a bit more interesting! If Ahern can replicate his U20s form then Munster have a serious prospect on their hands. I'm guessing he'll play the 80 minutes with no second row replacement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    That makes tonight a bit more interesting! If Ahern can replicate his U20s form then Munster have a serious prospect on their hands. I'm guessing he'll play the 80 minutes with no second row replacement.
    Will be very different to how he played at 20s but yeah serious prospect. Still think there's lots more like him out there.

    County Waterford and other areas like it are a goldmine for potential pros.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    "It was a clear penalty, but I don't know what it was for."

    - Liam Toland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Beautiful try off first phase.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    How has Jack o'donoghue been ignored by Ireland. He is such a good player


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,623 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    I’m pretty sure Toland just called it a “skull cap”...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    ElisaAtWar wrote: »
    How has Jack o'donoghue been ignored by Ireland. He is such a good player

    He's been capped. There's simply better players at his own province and others.


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,831 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Fierce unlucky for gallagher


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    That looks bad for Gallagher. Feck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    Clegg wrote: »
    He's been capped. There's simply better players at his own province and others.

    Time and again o'donoghue is the lynchpin of this secondary Munster team. Which suggests he deserves more consideration as a first team player both for his province and his country


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Delighted for De Allende, well deserved first try. He's transformed the backline. Coombes with a super offload also. Nearly got a great try of his own with 3 hanging off him shortly before this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    DDA scores.

    Zebre are game in defence but they're going to ship a YC in the scrum eventually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Great heads up play from Coombes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    ElisaAtWar wrote: »
    Time and again o'donoghue is the lynchpin of this secondary Munster team. Which suggests he deserves more consideration as a first team player both for his province and his country

    Sounds a lot like Rhys Ruddock. A player also.deemed not good enough by successive coaches at test level. They're good players that obviously have some glaring deficiencies in the eyes of the coaches.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    ElisaAtWar wrote: »
    Time and again o'donoghue is the lynchpin of this secondary Munster team. Which suggests he deserves more consideration as a first team player both for his province and his country
    Unfortunately he will need to be starting more in biggest games for Munster to get game time with Ireland. I agree he needs to be looked at more. Would be great seeing him involved with Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Think JOD has suffered a bit for his versatility. Gets put all across the backrow. Also that injury didn't help either. An amazing player to have, super lineout operator offensively and defensively especially


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    DDA's fend is a sight to behold, every game he sends a couple of opposition flying when out wide


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Class, offloads galore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ahern is quick!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Ahern is quick!

    Played fullback!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,623 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Ahern in open field is something else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Oh, Cloete....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Oh, Cloete....

    Mixed a fantastic passage of play by clearing and winning a turnover by then butchering a try. Kind of sums up his time with us


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭Boscoirl


    The 14 made a great tackle on him to Knock it out of his hands


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Lovely out the back offload by Coombes in the lead up there. Himself and Hanrahan's passing has been great in tight spaces tonight


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,623 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Nice from Coombes, there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Nice finish by French. Earls would be proud!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    Zebre are not a clueless rugby team. But neither are they a professional rugby team. And it's time to call a spade. How many seasons of dragons and Zebre being the whipping boys do we really need.

    You look at fixture lists in these conferences and all you see is non-competitive games. And if that's true then what's the point.

    The basic fundamental is that it's a game, and the outcome is uncertain. When the outcome is certain what's the point of the game


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭Dog Botherer


    ElisaAtWar wrote: »
    Zebre are not a clueless rugby team. But neither are they a professional rugby team. And it's time to call a spade. How many seasons of dragons and Zebre being the whipping boys do we really need.

    You look at fixture lists in these conferences and all you see is non-competitive games. And if that's true then what's the point.

    The basic fundamental is that it's a game, and the outcome is uncertain. When the outcome is certain what's the point of the game

    chill out. half of that team is from the Italian equivalent of the AIL. Zebre and Treviso have very visibly improved over the last couple of years.

    Edinburgh are shipping a huge beating at home to Ulster right now, i assume we need to bin them along with Dragons and Zebre.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    That was such an obvious knock on by Munster but the tmo can't see what's see in front of her face. No wonder folks lose faith


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Lovely snipe by Casey. Not a great second half, good to keep them away from our tryline


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Feck, is that Casey down?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Thats a cheap hit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭budhabob


    Thats a cheap hit

    Very, pretty dirty.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Our handling this season is gone up a notch. Archer being used as a latch, pop passes, offloads galore - kudos to Larkham, he's making his mark.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭theVersatile


    Yes Aherne.

    Justice for that scumbag hit on Casey. Rub their faces in it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    chill out. half of that team is from the Italian equivalent of the AIL. Zebre and Treviso have very visibly improved over the last couple of years.

    Edinburgh are shipping a huge beating at home to Ulster right now, i assume we need to bin them along with Dragons and Zebre.

    That's a really secondary Munster team against a hopeless Zebre team. Even with a first choice Zebre team they are rubbish. Says a lot about the league we play in


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭Dog Botherer


    ElisaAtWar wrote: »
    That's a really secondary Munster team against a hopeless Zebre team. Even with a first choice Zebre team they are rubbish. Says a lot about the league we play in

    a first choice Zebre team would handily beat that Munster side. struggling to tell if you’re half arsedly on the wind up or you just don’t watch much rugby.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    Not much to learn there except that Zebre are decimated at the moment

    Injury to Gallagher looked pretty bad...

    Here's hoping Wycherley and Casey are ok

    A week off now and then 7 games in 7 weeks which will give us a better idea of where this team stands.

    Quins (H)
    Clermont (A)
    Leinster (H)
    Ulster (A)
    Connacht (A)
    Clermont (H)
    Quins (A)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Venditti's hit on Casey was Calum Clark level scumbaggery. Casey is very lucky his season wasn't ended.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    a first choice Zebre team would handily beat that Munster side. struggling to tell if you’re half arsedly on the wind up or you just don’t watch much rugby.

    It wouldn't. It would struggle to beat an AIL team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Losing Matt Gallagher is a significant blow. Since he's broken into the team he's been excellent.

    The back three selection will be interesting. We'll see who out of Conway, Earls or Daly get a run against Scotland. Daly in particular is very short of gametime. Nash and Sweetnam have been racking up Pro14 appearances over the window.

    If Daly doesn't play against Scotland, can he start against Quins? It would be his first start since his injury against Connacht A in September.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,035 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Ahern is quick!

    Was it him that got a 50m runaway try for the U20s last year? Theres something special about a tight 5 forward in the open field.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭Dog Botherer


    ElisaAtWar wrote: »
    It wouldn't. It would struggle to beat an AIL team.

    okay well now i know not to take you seriously anymore. cheers.


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