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Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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  • #6962
    Gervais08
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Hush and remember the rules.

    We are locking down for two weeks to flatten the curve to make sure there are enough ventilators for us all this is a deadly virus that will kill up to 85'000 people.
    Masks are not recommended wear gloves and sanitise your hands.

    Oh Jesus I am sorry how April and May of me I meant wear masks gloves are not recommend and we must all obey or we are granny killers.

    I actually know someone who works in the same place as one of the “experts” and apparently the figure they wanted to say “could” be reached in 2020 was 250,000 just in the 26 counties!

    Brexit’s “Project Fear” was a blueprint seemingly!!!!


  • #6963
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    John O.Groats wrote: »
    Well as you made clear earlier today you don`t wear masks due to your condition so I don`t know why you are sarcastically posting this.

    I hate the insanity of this whole situation.
    I miss going for a swim I miss going for a meal I miss browsing around a shop.

    I miss not be able to go on holiday.


  • #6964
    Irish Steve
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    So the rule is made up boll1x, with no basis in reality. Why the wall of text to say this??

    The question was asked why a meal prepared off site was different to a meal prepared on site, and these were some of the reasons why.

    The comment about green paint or the letters in the name was a slightly tongue in cheek comment about the criteria that was used to determine how to select which pubs could be opened. The €9 rule wasn't new, it was in place, and an easy way to provide a supposedly simple way to limit the numbers open, but it's caused a firestorm from people that just won't accept the Covid issue as being real.


    The attitudes of a significant number of posters in this thread is a pointer to the reasons why there was a reluctance by NPHET to recommend any hospitality being open over Christmas, and from what I've seen over the last few days, I will be very surprised if there is not another return to significant restrictions shortly after Christmas, possibly even more severe than we've just come out of. That won't be good, but there may not be an alternative at the moment.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • #6965
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,354 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Gervais08 wrote: »
    I actually know someone who works in the same place as one of the “experts” and apparently the figure they wanted to say “could” be reached in 2020 was 250,000 just in the 26 counties!

    Brexit’s “Project Fear” was a blueprint seemingly!!!!

    www.twitter.com/_DHOTYA


  • #6966
    Thats me
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Thats me


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    I miss going for a swim I miss going for a meal I miss browsing around a shop.

    I miss not be able to go on holiday.


    This is only you and nobody around missing anything..


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  • #6967
    Birdie Num Num
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Birdie Num Num


    Irish Steve wrote: »
    Oh dear. You clearly can't cope with the truth of where things are.

    Not in the least surprised, and the people thanking you don't surprise me either.

    RTE has just carried an interesting item on the news about the external research that has been done on the cases caused by different establishments, and it's no surprise that the wet pubs are/were a significant contributor.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1129/1181216-covid-wet-pubs/

    And no, I don't care that you don't like the message, I am entitled to my view as much as you are. That is the principle of Boards, and if you don't like it, there is a simple solution, it's called ignore, and the beauty of that option is that only you know who's on your ignore list.

    Have to admit, I'd not be complaining if I was getting the same money as Holohan.

    I know of two definite clusters from two pubs. One in Dublin from March 13th. One in another county after inter club match celebrations. Can’t imagine they stand alone.


  • #6968
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Thats me wrote: »
    This is only you and nobody around missing anything..

    What makes you say that?

    I am not a lockdown zealot.


  • #6969
    Oscar Bravo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,489 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Irish Steve wrote: »
    The question was asked why a meal prepared off site was different to a meal prepared on site, and these were some of the reasons why.

    The comment about green paint or the letters in the name was a slightly tongue in cheek comment about the criteria that was used to determine how to select which pubs could be opened. The €9 rule wasn't new, it was in place, and an easy way to provide a supposedly simple way to limit the numbers open, but it's caused a firestorm from people that just won't accept the Covid issue as being real.


    The attitudes of a significant number of posters in this thread is a pointer to the reasons why there was a reluctance by NPHET to recommend any hospitality being open over Christmas, and from what I've seen over the last few days, I will be very surprised if there is not another return to significant restrictions shortly after Christmas, possibly even more severe than we've just come out of. That won't be good, but there may not be an alternative at the moment.

    again,so much ****e in one post. Pubs wont miss you anyway.id say 5 pints max for you, chatting about how you got the rescue 116 crash thread so wrong ;)


  • #6970
    PommieBast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    So why is a €9 meal prepared off premises not as effective as a €9 meal prepared on premises?
    It isn't. The rules are intended to minimise the number of establishments that can open, rather than maximise safety of those that do.


  • #6971
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,446 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    So why is a €9 meal prepared off premises not as effective as a €9 meal prepared on premises?

    Effective as what?


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  • #6972
    Tazz T
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,237 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    Irish Steve wrote: »
    The question was asked why a meal prepared off site was different to a meal prepared on site, and these were some of the reasons why.

    The comment about green paint or the letters in the name was a slightly tongue in cheek comment about the criteria that was used to determine how to select which pubs could be opened. The €9 rule wasn't new, it was in place, and an easy way to provide a supposedly simple way to limit the numbers open, but it's caused a firestorm from people that just won't accept the Covid issue as being real.


    The attitudes of a significant number of posters in this thread is a pointer to the reasons why there was a reluctance by NPHET to recommend any hospitality being open over Christmas, and from what I've seen over the last few days, I will be very surprised if there is not another return to significant restrictions shortly after Christmas, possibly even more severe than we've just come out of. That won't be good, but there may not be an alternative at the moment.

    We will be under 100 14 day average in January if not before. There will be no more need for a lockdown until February earliest at the onset of the third wave which hopefully will be tempered by the vaccine. In fact I'll go further and say there's a good chance we'll be the first country to green list by the end of December.


  • #6973
    Irish Steve
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    Tazz T wrote: »
    We will be under 100 14 day average in January if not before. There will be no more need for a lockdown until February earliest at the onset of the third wave which hopefully will be tempered by the vaccine. In fact I'll go further and say there's a good chance we'll be the first country to green list by the end of December.

    If that happens, I will be delighted to see it, as it will mean that normal life can start to resume, and we'll ALL be able to participate in events and the like that have been impossible for nearly 12 months.

    That said, looking at some of the attitudes that are being put forward by some of the keyboard warriors in this thread, I'd be concerned at how much damage will be done by the 12 pubs of Christmas gang, who seem determined to do as much damage as possible to social separation during the Christmas period.

    I can only hope that they're all mouth and no trousers, or, even better, the pubs that they choose for their sessions will recognise them for the types that they are, and show them the door before they can cause problems.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • #6974
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Effective as what?

    Effective as a stomach lining to stop you from getting pissed. Which is allegedly why the €9 meal is needed.


  • #6975
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Tazz T wrote: »
    We will be under 100 14 day average in January if not before. There will be no more need for a lockdown until February earliest at the onset of the third wave which hopefully will be tempered by the vaccine. In fact I'll go further and say there's a good chance we'll be the first country to green list by the end of December.

    Can I have some of what you`re smoking? No chance whatsoever of any of this panning out.


  • #6976
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Oh dear. Who appointed you as a concrete authority on the opposing view? "Wilful ignorance" is only your own projection. You're not very good at this I'm afraid.

    Well your argument from a previous posts was “food doesn’t repel Covid” which isn’t really debating the point but more you trying to bolster your argument by insinuating the opposing view has no logic. Which doesn’t reflect well on you or your ability to argue coherently.

    And I’m certainly not claiming to be the authority on the opposing view by any stretch. I’m not an expert in epidemiology pretty much (I’d venture a guess) like you aren’t. But NPHET are so maybe their views are worth considering even if you disagree with them.


  • #6977
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Irish Steve wrote: »
    If that happens, I will be delighted to see it, as it will mean that normal life can start to resume, and we'll ALL be able to participate in events and the like that have been impossible for nearly 12 months.

    That said, looking at some of the attitudes that are being put forward by some of the keyboard warriors in this thread, I'd be concerned at how much damage will be done by the 12 pubs of Christmas gang, who seem determined to do as much damage as possible to social separation during the Christmas period.

    I can only hope that they're all mouth and no trousers, or, even better, the pubs that they choose for their sessions will recognise them for the types that they are, and show them the door before they can cause problems.

    Sadly you will be hoping in vain. These types are determined to flout the rules and will do so by hook or by crook. There will be a large spike in cases early in the new year.


  • #6978
    ShooterSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Effective as a stomach lining to stop you from getting pissed. Which is allegedly why the €9 meal is needed.

    I think its more to do with the fact that they don't want to reopen pubs but want to allow restaurants to open and if they don't let gastro pubs open they will have a mess on their hands. But this time they want the loop hole closed that pub pubs were using to open and my best guess, as someone who works in one of those pubs and knows some others (obviously on a very small local scale) who work in similar, was that those pubs in general weren't enforcing the rules re: time or even ordering food. Which is I suppose more likely in a local style establishment where customers tend to come in for longer, tend to be "regulars" and don't want to order food. There was also evidence of it even in this thread during the last lifting of restrictions. Plenty of posters boasting about never been asked to order food or to finish up.


  • #6979
    Gervais08
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    John O.Groats wrote: »
    Sadly you will be hoping in vain. These types are determined to flout the rules and will do so by hook or by crook. There will be a large spike in cases early in the new year.

    Screenshots taken by a few I’d say ready to make you eat those stupid words - one of “those types” ?? Ffs.


  • #6980
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,446 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Effective as a stomach lining to stop you from getting pissed. Which is allegedly why the €9 meal is needed.

    That's not what the meal is about.

    If your follow up is to ask what the meal is for, my suggestion is to go back a few months when this conversation was had for the first, second, third and fourth times.


  • #6981
    Gervais08
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    That's not what the meal is about.

    If your follow up is to ask what the meal is for, my suggestion is to go back a few months when this conversation was had for the first, second, third and fourth times.

    All that will do is regurgitate what you want to believe it’s for.


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  • #6982
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,446 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Gervais08 wrote: »
    All that will do is regurgitate what you want to believe it’s for.

    There's no "believe" about it. The reasons for the regulations have been discussed at length on this thread already. Going back over it again is futile


  • #6983
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    That's not what the meal is about.

    If your follow up is to ask what the meal is for, my suggestion is to go back a few months when this conversation was had for the first, second, third and fourth times.

    Weren’t you boasting about circumventing the meal rule last time? €9 for nachos and a pint?


  • #6984
    Gervais08
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Weren’t you boasting about circumventing the meal rule last time? €9 for nachos and a pint?

    I believe the technical term is “hoist by one’s own petard”.


  • #6985
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,446 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Weren’t you boasting about circumventing the meal rule last time? €9 for nachos and a pint?

    €9 for a meal, with a free pint, is not circumventing the rules.

    According to you.....
    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Effective as a stomach lining to stop you from getting pissed. Which is allegedly why the €9 meal is needed.

    The nachos did the trick. Rules obeyed ;)

    Again, I suggest you go back a few months if wish to go over ground that's already been trampled over.


  • #6986
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    SB71 wrote: »
    Can people please not keep referring to pubs as "wet pubs" whoever came up with that word along with the equally as cringe "staycation" deserves to be ridiculed, awful.
    the person who came up with the term "wet pub" is probably long dead, its a very old term, just use google.

    That goes for the ignorant people who think meal laws are something new. Still waiting for anybody to give answers about why they think the meal laws in relation to children in pubs are in place.
    Children aged 15 and over, who are accompanied by their parent or guardian, can stay on the premises after 9:00 (10:00 pm from May to September) if they are attending a private function where a substantial meal is being served
    I won't hold my breath, they don't want to show themselves up as the laughable ignorant procreating vaginal idiots they know they are. (have to be careful as I know there are some sadly pathetic poor petals who get awful upset)


  • #6987
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,446 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Just as I suspected. Hypocrite. Covid is still very much a daily topic, no matter how much you want your hypocrisy buried in the past.

    If free pints are wrong, baby, lock me up and throw away the key!

    Tell ya what, the €9 nachos were only ok but the pint I got with it was extraordinary!

    The only thing more delicious was the value. A free pint, especially one as delicious as that one, is one of the most beautiful things known to man! Can't wait for my next one!


  • #6988
    Suckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    rubadub wrote: »
    the person who came up with the term "wet pub" is probably long dead, its a very old term, just use google.

    That goes for the ignorant people who think meal laws are something new. Still waiting for anybody to give answers about why they think the meal laws in relation to children in pubs are in place.


    I won't hold my breath, they don't want to show themselves up as the laughable ignorant procreating vaginal idiots they know they are. (have to be careful as I know there are some sadly pathetic poor petals who get awful upset)


    I don't think it's used in the same way.

    A 'wet bar' was somewhere that used to wash their glasses to serve to others because it had soapwater or a running tap.

    That could make it more annoying for many reasons,


  • #6989
    Gervais08
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    rubadub wrote: »
    the person who came up with the term "wet pub" is probably long dead, its a very old term, just use google.

    That goes for the ignorant people who think meal laws are something new. Still waiting for anybody to give answers about why they think the meal laws in relation to children in pubs are in place.


    I won't hold my breath, they don't want to show themselves up as the laughable ignorant procreating vaginal idiots they know they are. (have to be careful as I know there are some sadly pathetic poor petals who get awful upset)

    Google Translate couldn’t help with that!!


  • #6990
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Suckit wrote: »
    I don't think it's used in the same way.
    it was, as I said, try using google, there is a date fuction to only find hits before a certain date, very useful.


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  • #6991
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Gervais08 wrote: »
    Google Translate couldn’t help with that!!

    aww bless your ignorance, maybe look up the phrase "read between the lines".


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