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No Nut November.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭46 Long


    Why do people get weird because some men choose to abstain from masturbation for a short period?

    Mostly the bizarre puritanism of it.

    We've gone from thinking of porn and masturbation as being sinful and harmful, to being accepted as normal aspects of human sexual behavior and back to being sinful and harmful again.

    The pseudo-scientific claptrap doesn't help either. We have access to the sum total of all human knowledge at our fingertips and yet we have young men thinking that forgoing a daily **** will grant them superpowers. I despair.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,341 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    I tried it a couple of times before but I always end up getting a terrible pain in my balls every time I fart. So I end up abstaining from farting then as well. Both semen and fart retention can't be good for you.

    God no, dont give up the farting. Theres nothing as good as a good fart.... except maybe a good ****


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,074 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    46 Long wrote: »
    The pseudo-scientific claptrap doesn't help either. We have access to the sum total of all human knowledge at our fingertips and yet we have young men thinking that forgoing a daily **** will grant them superpowers. I despair.
    It's standard operational BroScience(tm) at play. ChickThink(tm) is the female equivalent. Both are primary exports of American culture of late. The fact it's called "no nut" or "no fap" reveals its origin. Nobody in Ireland twenty, even ten years ago would use that word for a ****.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,086 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Is no nut November comes to an end have you all got your lube and porn magazines ready?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,040 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Is no nut November comes to an end have you all got your lube and porn magazines ready?
    Magazines? How old fashioned. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭Kraftwerk


    Nothing wrong with a bit of abstinence. It's interesting the hatred this stuff gets though. I know it's bull**** about getting supreme mental clarity etc but while people claim its natural and necessary it's also an addiction for a lot of people and tightly coupled with porn addiction and consumption.

    And as with all actual addictions it can have varied negative effects on peoples lives and they either refuse to accept its a problem or are incapable of stopping.

    No harm in practicing a bit of self control once in a while.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,086 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Magazines? How old fashioned. :)

    Well a pornhub online subscription these days I suppose


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭46 Long


    Kraftwerk wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with a bit of abstinence. It's interesting the hatred this stuff gets though. I know it's bull**** about getting supreme mental clarity etc but while people claim its natural and necessary it's also an addiction for a lot of people and tightly coupled with porn addiction and consumption.

    And as with all actual addictions it can have varied negative effects on peoples lives and they either refuse to accept its a problem or are incapable of stopping.

    No harm in practicing a bit of self control once in a while.

    Give me one negative effect of a daily ****.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭Kraftwerk


    46 Long wrote: »
    Give me one negative effect of a daily ****.

    I didn't say there was any. I said for some people it's an addiction and coupled with porn addiction.

    It's interesting you say daily **** as if it's a must do daily activity. What if you're not at home? You're travelling or working. You still squeeze in that daily ****? Even though the situation/location may not be appropriate?

    As with anything else the act itself may not necessarily be bad and some people can do it regularly without issue. Some people however develop a dependance on it and need to do it as a matter of priority in their life. And that need to do it and prioritise it can have detrimental effects on your life which isn't healthy.

    Take that teacher caught **** in school as an example. Nothing wrong with having a **** and watching porn. But if you get to the point you feel the need to do it in a classroom of a school because you think nobody is around then you've got a problem.


  • Posts: 17,381 [Deleted User]


    No nut November isn't a legitimate way to deal with an addiction, though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,170 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    46 Long wrote: »
    ... We have access to the sum total of all human knowledge at our fingertips and yet we have young men thinking that forgoing a daily **** will grant them superpowers. I despair.

    The sum total of human knowledge, ask any dietician what that means, or any 'personal trainer'....

    Its amazing how far we've come, and yet we have no ****ing clue about how our bodies work or what nutrients they need and what they actually do,,,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭Kraftwerk


    No nut November isn't a legitimate way to deal with an addiction, though.

    I never said it was, I said masturbation/porn consumption can be an addiction and there's no harm in practicing some self control once in a while. If you cant go a couple days before you're in sweats and getting the horn from the Cadburys caramel bunny then your habits may not be as healthy as you think.

    As for the promise of mental clarity due to increased testosterone or whatever people say happens, it's probably bull**** but I'm sure there are some mental health benefits to abstaining from habitual behaviour. Even in terms of knowing you have the willpower to stop doing it and it's not an uncontrollable addictive habit it's good.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,170 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    No nut November isn't a legitimate way to deal with an addiction, though.

    It's as.legitimate as any other month off any other addiction... no alcohol April, ... no fags February..., it's what you do after that that matters, that makes the difference


  • Posts: 17,381 [Deleted User]


    It's as.legitimate as any other month off any other addiction... no alcohol April, ... no fags February..., it's what you do after that that matters, that makes the difference

    Well I don't think any of those are legitimate. With fags and drink, people do those months off for reasons like just wanting a break, or wanting to lose weight, or improve skin, or focus on something else etc.

    A masturbation or porn addiction is more about identifying triggers and doing something about reducing their frequency, or doing something else when they hit, like walking to the shop instead of just doing it out of boredom.

    I don't really agree with any all or nothing methods. Too many people hit failure and go back to where they were before. And it's really easy to fail No Nut November since it's a base urge, and in moderation, is good for you, unlike pretty much everything else people try to give up.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,216 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It's as.legitimate as any other month off any other addiction... no alcohol April, ... no fags February..., it's what you do after that that matters, that makes the difference

    This makes no sense to me. I've a sweet tooth. I don't drink or smoke and I try to eat reasonably well. I do love my chocolate and crisps and if I find that when I give them up for lent I'm back on them Easter Sunday. Going completely off is counterproductive. Moderation and discipline are what you need to be practicing, not some imported US internet nonsense.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭Kraftwerk


    This makes no sense to me. I've a sweet tooth. I don't drink or smoke and I try to eat reasonably well. I do love my chocolate and crisps and if I find that when I give them up for lent I'm back on them Easter Sunday. Going completely off is counterproductive. Moderation and discipline are what you need to be practicing, not some imported US internet nonsense.

    Given we're talking about addiction this sounds a bit like a smoker saying that he's fine, he's just having the one a day but he's not going to overdo it. And there's no point quitting because he'll just be back on it come Monday etc.

    If someone has an unhealthy relationship with something then a period of abstinence can remove the dependance and let you make decisions with a clear mind. As the other poster said what you do after is key. Accept there's an issue and try to address it through moderation or prolonged abstinence or go back to old habits.

    Whether it's no nut or not it's all just abstinence. And it's not really a novel concept in terms of dealing with addiction or bad habits.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,216 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Kraftwerk wrote: »
    Given we're talking about addiction this sounds a bit like a smoker saying that he's fine, he's just having the one a day but he's not going to overdo it. And there's no point quitting because he'll just be back on it come Monday etc.

    If someone has an unhealthy relationship with something then a period of abstinence can remove the dependance and let you make decisions with a clear mind. As the other poster said what you do after is key. Accept there's an issue and try to address it through moderation or prolonged abstinence or go back to old habits.

    Whether it's no nut or not it's all just abstinence. And it's not really a novel concept in terms of dealing with addiction or bad habits.

    That's not really the same thing though. A minor indulgence and an addiction are completely different things. Moderate masturbation has no ill effects. Moderate smoking, drinking, drug use, etc do.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭Kraftwerk


    That's not really the same thing though. A minor indulgence and an addiction are completely different things. Moderate masturbation has no ill effects. Moderate smoking, drinking, drug use, etc do.

    You're the one that compared your minor indulgence of eating crisps to alcohol and nicotine addiction by saying you don't understand abstinence in relation to those because you prefer moderation over abstinence when eating crisps.

    But it depends on what your definition of moderate is. One beer a day isn't unhealthy. One **** a day watching porn isn't unhealthy. One bet a day isn't unhealthy. One sugary drink a day isn't necessarily unhealthy.

    The problem is regular moderate consumption or indulgence in something turning into habitual behaviour and becoming unhealthy and affecting your priorities.

    There's benefit in interrupting that regular indulgence even if it is moderate and exercise self control and discipline by removing them from your daily habits for a while so you're not overly dependent on them as part of your daily life.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭mr_fegelien


    I've began taking 40mg of the antidepressant fluoxetine (Prozac), and so far my urge to masturbate has gone down the drain. I haven't nutted in a week and a half.

    It's not bad at all, don't get people who complain about a low sex drive to be honest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 691 ✭✭✭jmlad2020


    Anyone else somewhat agree with the "superhuman benefits" abstaining is said to have? I absolutely do.

    Personally I'm more confident, my skin looks healthier, thicker hair, manlier voice and generally the opposite sex give you more attention when abstaining.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,232 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Last day lads!!

    :D :P

    Tug Tuesday will be messy !

    :D:D:D:D :P

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... "



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,040 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    And 5k restrictions lifted then as well. A double celebration.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,232 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    30 days is about 25 days to long for that kind of dedication to abstain ...

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... "



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,086 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Has everyone cleaned the pipes by now after November


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,232 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    non stop....

    :D :P :D

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... "



  • Registered Users Posts: 481 ✭✭mr.anonymous


    Two more months and you could have been levitating :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,888 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    I am late to this thread, but I once read a self help book which promoted only one **** per week. Scheduled. And never to porn. It has to be done using imagination only. Use your imagination about someone you have actually met, but not slept with.

    I did it for about a month, it was very good. I might revisit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,040 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    All that panic buying of toilet paper came in handy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,232 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    I am late to this thread, but I once read a self help book which promoted only one **** per week. Scheduled. And never to porn. It has to be done using imagination only. Use your imagination about someone you have actually met, but not slept with.

    I did it for about a month, it was very good. I might revisit.

    1 a week ?

    A day , maybe .... :D

    Imagination ones are the best - porn only every so often.

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... "



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,286 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    50 nut November for me - well about that number, I don't keep a spreadsheet.

    There is a doctor in the US who advises that you should nut 300 or preferably 700 times per year for various health benefits, to feel energised and young etc. Sounds good to me :)


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