Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

bennyl10 · 26-11-2020 07:01PM

manniot2 wrote: »

Tony is some backstabing c1nt. Let the government makes their plans, basically announce them, then wait until the 11th hour to swoop in and undermine them, when they cant change course. Absolute backstabing of the highest order. Some operator.

Nphet were always due to meet today?
If the government planned without awaiting public health advice that’s on them

Seamai · 26-11-2020 07:01PM

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

Sure so rather than actually debate you push the insult and belittle button- it’s how the Nazis used to flatten all dissent- claim opponents were mentally ill. The lowest of the low type comebacks

Godwin alert!

JP Liz V1 · 26-11-2020 07:01PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

3 death 335 cases

RIP

119 in Dublin, 29 in Kilkenny, 23 in Limerick, 20 in Donegal, 19 in Tipperary, 19 in Cork

26-11-2020 07:01PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

3 death 335 cases

And there's the backlog from yesterday, conveniently timed for Tony's statement of intent. Underhanded shenanigans, we're being played.

Stheno · 26-11-2020 07:01PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

3 death 335 cases

Is that the backlog? Or were the swab figures similar today to 335?

froog · 26-11-2020 07:01PM

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

If people want to vote for autocratic rubbish like Nphet they are free to do so.

what?

Necro · 26-11-2020 07:03PM

manniot2 wrote: »

Tony is some backstabing c1nt. Let the government makes their plans, basically announce them, then wait until the 11th hour to swoop in and undermine them, when they cant change course. Absolute backstabing of the highest order. Some operator.

Mod:

Tone it down please, no need for that sort of language

PmMeUrDogs · 26-11-2020 07:03PM

Stheno wrote: »

Is that the backlog? Or were the swab figures similar today to 335?

Backlog

eagle eye · 26-11-2020 07:04PM

Open the Pubs wrote:

It suits Dr Death to leak everything to the media once again, thinks he runs the country. He has our cowardly politicians under his thumb.

Lol, hard to hide your agenda with your username.

shinzon · 26-11-2020 07:05PM

Just for the NPHET is running the country types in here Gavan Reilly just tweeted this

NPHET advice to Government is that restaurants and pubs should allow takeaway service ONLY, throughout ALL of December.

Set to be rejected by Cabinet subcommittee which is meeting right now to consider allowing FOUR households under one roof at Christmas.

NPHET for the bajillionth time gives advice and its upto the government to either take the advice or reject it which there going to do.

This also from Christina Flynn of thejournal.ie

Other than advising that restaurants and pubs should allow takeaway service only throughout all of December, NPHET has also raised concerns around reopening Mass and religious services.

Shin

manniot2 · 26-11-2020 07:05PM

Necro wrote: »

Mod:

Tone it down please, no need for that sort of language

Every need.

blowitupref · 26-11-2020 07:06PM

Stheno wrote: »

Is that the backlog? Or were the swab figures similar today to 335?

64 backlog cases included in today.

KrustyUCC · 26-11-2020 07:06PM

Stheno wrote: »

Is that the backlog? Or were the swab figures similar today to 335?

271 swabs

Was about 100 less cases than swabs yesterday

cameramonkey · 26-11-2020 07:06PM

PmMeUrDogs wrote: »

Backlog

How many in the back log?

fred funk }{ · 26-11-2020 07:08PM

George Lee is some doom merchant. He just can't help himself.

jaffa20 · 26-11-2020 07:09PM

George, the spokesperson for Tony

SEPT 23 1989 · 26-11-2020 07:09PM

The government have backed themselves into a corner no choice now but to open things up

tony is covering his arse to say I told you so when numbers have exploded by Christmas Eve

Richard Hillman · 26-11-2020 07:09PM

Everybody was predicting that the figures were going up today and were called conspiracy theorists. We knew they would try and pull a fast one.

Necro · 26-11-2020 07:09PM

manniot2 wrote: »

Every need.

Mod:

Threadbanned

26-11-2020 07:09PM

Lee on RTÉ: "the numbers are not impressive, we're nowhere near the original target." Twist the knife George.

Pete_Cavan · 26-11-2020 07:10PM

Peter Flynt wrote: »

That's what the argument has been about and I'm delighted that you agree with me.
Schools do contribute to the viral spread.
Period.

Some cases but not nearly enough to justify closing them.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 26-11-2020 07:11PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Go for it!

Do whatever feels right for you. You have a choice.

If I had may way we would have some restrictions eased for December with a greater opening up as the vaccine rolls out in late December and January and February. Gradual opening but when we open we stay open.

Instead I will probably be fairly conservative in my own behaviour. Cases will rise and instead of being fairly open we will probably be in a full lockdown after Christmas for a month.

I know which I'd like but I don't get to choose. I get to be conservative when things are open and to be locked up in level 5 lockdown when it happens.

My choice isn't very important is it?

KrustyUCC · 26-11-2020 07:11PM

This six week lockdown apparently cost €1.5 billion in PUP payments not to mind the cost to businesses not trading

Yet NPHET only wanted to allow retail to open after all that time with enhanced measures mind

Such generosity from them

growleaves · 26-11-2020 07:12PM

I think people are making it too personal with their references to Tony Holohan.

The government are ultimately using NPHET are a shield from criticism even as NPHET seem to be out-flanking them with strong messaging via leaks.

I think the Gov should disband NPHET as a committee and therefore take full responsibility for the authority they exercise.

They could still take advice from from former members and other doctors and scientists but imo the abstraction of "public health" as a standalone concern separate from other aspects of life isn't working.

Covid isn't the New Black Death which is why the mass of people won't any longer accept public health measures as a super-priority overriding all other things. Most people go where they please now.

KrustyUCC · 26-11-2020 07:13PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

If I had may way we would have some restrictions eased for December with a greater opening up as the vaccine rolls out in late December and January and February. Gradual opening but when we open we stay open.

Instead I will probably be fairly conservative in my own behaviour. Cases will rise and instead of being fairly open we will probably be in a full lockdown after Christmas for a month.

I know which I'd like but I don't get to choose. I get to be conservative when things are open and to be locked up in level 5 lockdown when it happens.

My choice isn't very important is it?

funny if enough people are fairly conservative (I plan on that myself) it might mean less of a rise in cases

but yes cases will go up

Seamai · 26-11-2020 07:13PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Lee on RTÉ: "the numbers are not impressive, we're nowhere near the original target." Twist the knife George.

I wonder does George carry a spare pair of jocks in his pocket? I'd say they need changing after every report he does.

CalamariFritti · 26-11-2020 07:13PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

So you would have preferred the hospitals to be overwhelmed? That's what exponential growth will do at the high numbers we saw in September / October.

Easy to paint them as kill joys after the worst has past.

I remember a similar sentiment during the summer and then shock at the increase in numbers.

I expect in January / February as we are entering another lockdown we'll hear the same arguments about unelected experts.

Trumpism is exportable it seems.

I think we must not forget that we were rushed into level 5 without giving level 3 enough time. And then later it turned out that level 3 was probably just fine.

So now level 5 is the gold standard and level 2 or 3 is armageddon or something.

People have very short memories.

stephenjmcd · 26-11-2020 07:13PM

Government not happy

https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1332023778558291969?s=19

iamwhoiam · 26-11-2020 07:13PM

If they make this coming out of L 5 too difficult the people will decide .
They are already deciding what is important and how they can live with this virus

eagle eye · 26-11-2020 07:14PM

Deleted User wrote:

Lee on RTÃ‰: "the numbers are not impressive, we're nowhere near the original target." Twist the knife George.

He's telling the truth in that statement.

Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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