Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

MOR316 · 25-11-2020 03:25PM

owlbethere wrote: »

There were some clips and scenes onlime from Moycullen in Galway that was like that. They were celebrating a win in a match. There were scenes like that.

That's what I just said and it would have happened under Level 5 and for that reason, I am not counting it

bush · 25-11-2020 03:26PM

froog wrote: »

do people seriously not think there's any risk difference between a restaurant and a pub?

:pac::pac::pac:

Plumbthedepths · 25-11-2020 03:28PM

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Not much evidence that the government has a long-term management strategy, TBF.

The long term strategy is restrictions of one form or another until a vaccine is available.
Which seems to be the strategy of nearly every other country.
I wish I had shares in the pharmaceutical companies, maybe my pension provider is invested.

25-11-2020 03:33PM

froog wrote: »

do people seriously not think there's any risk difference between a restaurant and a pub?

Worst post I have ever seen on any Internet forum.
Well done you.

Now let me go find a picture of a quiet rural pub and a busy Dublin restaurant...

25-11-2020 03:37PM

froog wrote: »

do people seriously not think there's any risk difference between a restaurant and a pub?

Restaurant

Pub

bodhrandude · 25-11-2020 03:48PM

Stop quoting the same photos please.

big syke · 25-11-2020 03:49PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Our government made the decision that risking the health of our kids for financial gain was worth it. It may turn out that kids are fine in schools but it's not proven yet. It'll be proven in the short term if cases get down to low double figures again. It won't be proven as a good long term plan for another couple of years.
Thankfully we'll have a vaccine soon.

What are you actually on about?

This post sounds like a crazy persons post.

25-11-2020 03:55PM

VonLuck wrote: »

Seamus I don't know how you have the patience in trying to explain the whole reasoning behind the pub versus restaurant restrictions. It's clear that there are certain people who do not want to understand and keep batting around the nonsense of "the virus doesn't know if a pub has a kitchen or not". You're never going to win here unfortunately!

There seems to be quite a lack of understanding on the other side too. Photos above for one.

caveat emptor · 25-11-2020 04:00PM

Dr Gabriel Scally is not pussyfooting around this. How many deaths are estimated to occur by Relaxing the restrictions. He's speaking about the UK but same applies hereI guess. It's tricky with vaccines on the horizon. Pretty sure lockdown ini FEB awaits.

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1331515787744522240?s=20

MOR316 · 25-11-2020 04:06PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Dr Gabriel Scally is not pussyfooting around this. How many deaths are estimated to occur by Relaxing the restrictions. He's speaking about the UK but same applies hereI guess. It's tricky with vaccines on the horizon. Pretty sure lockdown ini FEB awaits.

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1331515787744522240?s=20

Susanna Reid makes it very hard to concentrate on what the Doctor is saying

MOR316 · 25-11-2020 04:08PM

I was going to go away for a night in Galway on the 19th of December.

Nothing fancy or major, just wanted a break away for a night, get out of the place I live. Different surroundings, be on my own

Have it booked but, unsure if it's best to cancel or what? Obviously difficult to tell without knowing the new level of restrictions

pauldry · 25-11-2020 04:08PM

Re Pubs v Restaurants EVERY pub I go into at Christmas is choc-a-bloc and will be this year again if allowed.

In a restaurant you sit eat and leave happy

In a pub you stand get shoved and the barman is rude to you and are deafened by music

I wont be crying if pubs stay shut even though I love pints

niallo27 · 25-11-2020 04:09PM

seamus wrote: »

If they were bullsh1tting then they've got hidden photoshop talents I never knew about.

I'm curious though why you think we're currently in level 5 if you believe there was no surge in cases in the late Summer?

Some people would like to believe that restaurants reopened and nothing happened with cases until we suddenly got caught on the hop in September.

The reality is that restaurants reopened and cases started building back up again, right on schedule 3 weeks later.

Now, I'm not blaming restaurants solely. A lot of things reopened, a lot of peoples' attitudes changed around that time.

It would not be correct to say that "nothing changed" after we opened restaurants though.
Again, entirely missing the point I'm making. It's not going to stop bar-hopping. The intention is to minimise it. Hypotheticals about what you could do notwithstanding.

I think you will find it was months before any rises occured.

MOR316 · 25-11-2020 04:11PM

pauldry wrote: »

Re Pubs v Restaurants EVERY pub I go into at Christmas is choc-a-bloc and will be this year again if allowed.

In a restaurant you sit eat and leave happy

In a pub you stand get shoved and the barman is rude to you and are deafened by music

I wont be crying if pubs stay shut even though I love pints

You're seriously missing the point.

No one here has even suggested opening the pubs to that level of crowds. Far from it.

Myself and others are merely saying that the way the pubs were allowed open between June and September, should be the same now. No pub between June and September were you made to stand and get shoved around or put on top of one another

No one is suggesting for a second to open them up to the level of what it's like every other Christmas. That's insanity and even more insane to get that idea from what you're reading

manniot2 · 25-11-2020 04:11PM

Irish Independent now headlining with "The lockdown All stars". Good grief

MerlinSouthDub · 25-11-2020 04:11PM

361 swabs, 12411 tests, 2.91% + rate

stephenjmcd · 25-11-2020 04:12PM

361 positive swabs from 12,411.
2.9% positivity

seamus · 25-11-2020 04:13PM

12,411 swabs, 361 positive, 2.91%

7-day down to 2.72%

Compared to yesterday, it doesn't look stellar, but then you realise that 2.91% is still one of the lowest we've had in two months. And it's a Wednesday

BringBackMick · 25-11-2020 04:13PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

361 positive swabs from 12,411.
2.9% positivity

Uh oh!

Jasper79 · 25-11-2020 04:14PM

pauldry wrote: »

Re Pubs v Restaurants EVERY pub I go into at Christmas is choc-a-bloc and will be this year again if allowed.

In a restaurant you sit eat and leave happy

In a pub you stand get shoved and the barman is rude to you and are deafened by music

I wont be crying if pubs stay shut even though I love pints

i think non food pubs should be allowed reopen as long a they follow the same rules- Seated service only, 90 mins stays or even up to 120 mins.

pauldry · 25-11-2020 04:14PM

Bad news for pubs on the swabs

Apparently under 200 is the aim to give green light

stephenjmcd · 25-11-2020 04:15PM

seamus wrote: »

12,411 swabs, 361 positive, 2.91%

7-day down to 2.72%

Compared to yesterday, it doesn't look stellar, but then you realise that 2.91% is still one of the lowest we've had in two months. And it's a Wednesday

Just thinking here after seeing the number. Wasn't there a poster(could have been yourself) who noticed either last week or the week before that for a period of a few weeks on a Wednesday there seemed to be an increase each Wednesday then a decrease again the next day. As in when looking at the charts you could clearly see a weekly spike which came on Wednesdays.

stephenjmcd · 25-11-2020 04:16PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

Uh oh!

2.9% is still down there with the lowest in a while off a decent number of tests to be fair, as pointed out by Seamus.

wadacrack · 25-11-2020 04:17PM

This is one year I am looking forward to Christmas being over. Hopefully some news on rolling out a vaccine in the next few weeks.

wadacrack · 25-11-2020 04:19PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

2.9% is still down there with the lowest in a while off a decent number of tests to be fair, as pointed out by Seamus.

One way of looking at it. But if we said at the start of this lockdown we would be looking at 250-350 cases daily most would accept that would be a disappointing number

eigrod · 25-11-2020 04:20PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Just thinking here after seeing the number. Wasn't there a poster(could have been yourself) who noticed either last week or the week before that for a period of a few weeks on a Wednesday there seemed to be an increase each Wednesday then a decrease again the next day. As in when looking at the charts you could clearly see a weekly spike which came on Wednesdays.

It’s possibly because of weekend lag where people who develop symptoms on Saturday or Sunday don’t talk to GP until Monday and thus not referred for a test until Monday afternoon or Tuesday.

stephenjmcd · 25-11-2020 04:23PM

wadacrack wrote: »

One way of looking at it. But if we said at the start of this lockdown we would be looking at 250-350 cases daily most would accept that would be a disappointing number

I think most at the start questioned if 100 a day was realistic.

I'm not sure what would have been classified as realistic but personally being down around 1k cases a day in 6 weeks isn't a disappointment for me, means there can be some sort of Christmas.

Ficheall · 25-11-2020 04:25PM

niallo27 wrote: »

I think you will find it was months before any rises occured.

You mean in keeping with the slow start as seen in exponential growth in general?

eagle eye · 25-11-2020 04:26PM

niallo27 wrote:

I think you will find it was months before any rises occured.

It didn't take long to go from 200 cases per day to 1k cases per day.

Treepole · 25-11-2020 04:36PM

MOR316 wrote: »

I was going to go away for a night in Galway on the 19th of December.

Nothing fancy or major, just wanted a break away for a night, get out of the place I live. Different surroundings, be on my own

Have it booked but, unsure if it's best to cancel or what? Obviously difficult to tell without knowing the new level of restrictions

Definitely go and do it.
I'd be very confident hotels will be fully open for business.
People need to get over this fear of doing things. Go do what you want to do but take all the sensible precautions to keep yourself and other safe.

Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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