Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

kippy · 19-11-2020 5:10pm

Denny61 wrote: »

When we allowed to move more freely. Expect cases to rise .simple as..and by god will they rise after the holiday period.we are only fooling ourselves..people on here with the stupid cliché..Great news ...its heading in the right direction..wake up..its nothing got to do with ridding this virus from our community

There's very few asleep.
It's heading in the right direction for a loosening of restrictions and move into another phase.

eigrod · 19-11-2020 5:11pm

https://twitter.com/juneshannon/status/1329448486576803840?s=21

bennyineire · 19-11-2020 5:15pm

Denny61 wrote: »

When we allowed to move more freely. Expect cases to rise .simple as..and by god will they rise after the holiday period.we are only fooling ourselves..people on here with the stupid cliché..Great news ...its heading in the right direction..wake up..its nothing got to do with ridding this virus from our community

So what exactly is your point ?

I fully expect numbers to get down to a manageable level in a couple of weeks, then we can have a responsible Christmas.

I would also expect numbers to go up again in January with possibly further lockdown.

But all of the above is OK with me TBH, January is always a crap month.

I think people like would only be happy if we were in Level 5 lockdown until the vaccine rollout. I don't understand your point of view, please explain in your opinion what we should do ?

alentejo · 19-11-2020 5:19pm

Cillian De Gascun was saying the increase in numbers was due to Halloween.

Halloween this year was very subdued - Is there any evidence to back this claim. Seems to me that hospitals and some workplace settings were to blame

meanwhile in the safe supermarket!

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-supermarkets-most-common-exposure-setting-for-catching-coronavirus-in-england-latest-data-shows-12136418

eagle eye · 19-11-2020 5:21pm

alentejo wrote:

meanwhile in the safe supermarket!

Well it's the only place you can't avoid the idiot.

froog · 19-11-2020 5:23pm

alentejo wrote: »

Cillian De Gascun was saying the increase in numbers was due to Halloween.

Halloween this year was very subdued - Is there any evidence to back this claim. Seems to me that hospitals and some workplace settings were to blame

meanwhile in the safe supermarket!

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-supermarkets-most-common-exposure-setting-for-catching-coronavirus-in-england-latest-data-shows-12136418

The only thing that study shows is that people with covid go to the supermarket more than other locations. No evidence of transmission there whatsover.

Non solum non ambulabit · 19-11-2020 5:27pm

brick tamland wrote: »

But its definitely the schools

Close the schools

The positivity rate is dropping yet 4,000 schools remain open for the last 12 weeks.

Can we maybe have one day where schools are not blamed for Covid cases increasing.

kippy · 19-11-2020 5:28pm

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Close the schools

The positivity rate is dropping yet 4,000 schools remain open for the last 12 weeks.

Can we maybe have one day where schools are not blamed for Covid cases increasing.

Don't worry, the cover-up brigade will be in soon enough.

Hector Savage · 19-11-2020 5:30pm

10000maniacs wrote: »

A lot of people spout rubbish here on this thread that people are going to die with or without COVID and that its no worse than the flu in terms of numbers. And then a dozen other morons thank them for their post. Here is the true ratio of COVID vs flu for deaths based on current USA statistics.

Heavily front loaded with the death rate with Covid ..

Fact is the IFR is rapidly decreasing and verging toward flu - new paper was stating around 0.14% IFR for CV19 - flu is ~0.1% .. other papers are showing around 0.2% ... Covid is more dangerous - but not as more as originally thought.

Facts are flu is MORE dangerous for kids then covid - check the numbers.
About the same for young healthy adults and a lot worse for older compromised people - and these accounts for vast majority of deaths...

I know that dissapoints people like you, but these are the facts!!

19-11-2020 5:31pm

eigrod wrote: »

332 positive swabs. 12,640 tests. Positivity rate 2.63%. Definitely going in right direction now.

When did the schools close again?

pauldry · 19-11-2020 5:33pm

2.6% great positivity rate

prunudo · 19-11-2020 5:33pm

froog wrote: »

The only thing that study shows is that people with covid go to the supermarket more than other locations. No evidence of transmission there whatsover.

Not sure what guidelines they have in the UK's supermarkets but between social distancing, sanitising stations, masks, screens around checkouts and quota's on amount of customers in store I don't know how the virus could be spreading in my local Dunnes.

emo72 · 19-11-2020 5:34pm

Poor feckers sitting in a huge tailback on the m4. Pointless torturing people trying to get home from work.

19-11-2020 5:38pm

emo72 wrote: »

Poor feckers sitting in a huge tailback on the m4. Pointless torturing people trying to get home from work.

Is it a checkpoint? I thought all those had been ditched now due to exactly what you say....the torturing of people just trying to get home

brick tamland · 19-11-2020 5:46pm

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Close the schools

The positivity rate is dropping yet 4,000 schools remain open for the last 12 weeks.

Can we maybe have one day where schools are not blamed for Covid cases increasing.

If anything cases went up in the period just after the schools closed for midterm, so is there an argument that having kids in school in safer than not being in school?

GeorgeBailey · 19-11-2020 5:49pm

brick tamland wrote: »

If anything cases went up in the period just after the schools closed for midterm, so is there an argument that having kids in school in safer than not being in school?

Cancel the Christmas holidays

Ger Roe · 19-11-2020 5:51pm

bennyineire wrote: »

So what exactly is your point ?

I fully expect numbers to get down to a manageable level in a couple of weeks, then we can have a responsible Christmas.

I would also expect numbers to go up again in January with possibly further lockdown.

But all of the above is OK with me TBH, January is always a crap month.

I think people like would only be happy if we were in Level 5 lockdown until the vaccine rollout. I don't understand your point of view, please explain in your opinion what we should do ?

I doubt we will have a 'responsible Christmas'. People have let themselves down already, and we haven't reached the biggest booze and mingle time of year yet.

When you expect numbers to go up, it means increase in demand on medical services, followed by death, but sure... that's OK, as long as we expect it.

I'm glad you are OK with it all and willing to take risks with predefined expectations, on behalf of others.

Eod100 · 19-11-2020 5:53pm

CDC in US recommending people don't travel for Thanksgiving https://twitter.com/ErinBanco/status/1329465031050858499?s=19

bennyineire · 19-11-2020 6:00pm

Ger Roe wrote: »

I doubt we will have a 'responsible Christmas'. People have let themselves down already, and we haven't reached the biggest booze and mingle time of year yet.

When you expect numbers to go up, it means increase in demand on medical services, followed by death, but sure... that's OK, as long as we expect it.

I'm glad you are OK with it all and willing to take risks with predefined expectations, on behalf of others.

So what should we do then ? Stay in lockdown to avoid another lockdown ?

19-11-2020 6:01pm

Eod100 wrote: »

CDC in US recommending people don't travel for Thanksgiving https://twitter.com/ErinBanco/status/1329465031050858499?s=19

Way too late for that. Planes will be jammed. My mother in law’s partner is having all his extended family visiting Michigan from multiple states, some of whom are travelling via other states, including New York, en route. All staying in the family home, with an overflow into local hotels. He’s a republican, needless to say, and does not care about COVID one bit. My mother in law is going upstate to the cabin tomorrow to stay away from it all for a few weeks. And he is by no means unique.

Le Bruise · 19-11-2020 6:03pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Is it a checkpoint? I thought all those had been ditched now due to exactly what you say....the torturing of people just trying to get home

Still go through one (or go up the mountains to avoid one) on the M11 every day on my way home from work.

Eod100 · 19-11-2020 6:05pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Way too late for that. Planes will be jammed. My mother in law’s partner is having all his extended family visiting Michigan from multiple states, some of whom are travelling via other states, including New York, en route. All staying in the family home, with an overflow into local hotels. He’s a republican, needless to say, and does not care about COVID one bit. My mother in law is going upstate to the cabin tomorrow to stay away from it all for a few weeks. And he is by no means unique.

Yeah fairly late in the day alright. Saw Biden will only be having dinner with his wife and 1 other person to send out a message. Will be interesting to see if there's an overlap of states which have most incoming people have the biggest spikes. It's probably the last thing they need with their case numbers.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 19-11-2020 6:44pm

Hector Savage wrote: »

Heavily front loaded with the death rate with Covid ..

Fact is the IFR is rapidly decreasing and verging toward flu - new paper was stating around 0.14% IFR for CV19 - flu is ~0.1% .. other papers are showing around 0.2% ... Covid is more dangerous - but not as more as originally thought.

Facts are flu is MORE dangerous for kids then covid - check the numbers.
About the same for young healthy adults and a lot worse for older compromised people - and these accounts for vast majority of deaths...

I know that dissapoints people like you, but these are the facts!!

If we didn't have a vaccine for the flu every year I'd guess there could be public health restrictions on an annual basis to limit the spread of the flu.